Comments on: Its Official Child Support Is a Tax! http://menz.org.nz/2004/its-offical-child-support-is-viewed-as-a-tax/ - promoting a clearer understanding of men's experience - Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:44:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: keith http://menz.org.nz/2004/its-offical-child-support-is-viewed-as-a-tax/#comment-42342 keith Wed, 08 Feb 2006 06:12:58 +0000 /?p=40#comment-42342 Why doesnt the IRD be honest and instead of pretending that I only pay 18% of my wage for my daughter;that its more like ? 25% as that 18% of my gross wage then becomes a net figure I pay.It is not 18% of my gross wage at all.I am on the bones of my arse while my ex has married a taiwanese importer and they have 2 housews between them and my money probably pays for their holidays or his 4 trips to taiwan per year. Why doesnt the IRD be honest and instead of pretending that I only pay 18% of my wage for my daughter;that its more like ? 25% as that 18% of my gross wage then becomes a net figure I pay.It is not 18% of my gross wage at all.I am on the bones of my arse while my ex has married a taiwanese importer and they have 2 housews between them and my money probably pays for their holidays or his 4 trips to taiwan per year.

]]> By: Mark Shipman http://menz.org.nz/2004/its-offical-child-support-is-viewed-as-a-tax/#comment-157 Mark Shipman Wed, 06 Oct 2004 00:22:00 +0000 /?p=40#comment-157 Many thanks for the CIO article rference. Frightening in some of it's suggestions. It seems the man in the middle is still being set up to pay the bulk of the parliamentary superannuation, Aunty Helen's "tiny" $380,000 annual salary, salaries for 80 members of parliament that are 150% excess to requirements, benefit recovery (aka child tax) and anything else the commies can find. Many thanks for the CIO article rference. Frightening in some of it’s suggestions. It seems the man in the middle is still being set up to pay the bulk of the parliamentary superannuation, Aunty Helen’s “tiny” $380,000 annual salary, salaries for 80 members of parliament that are 150% excess to requirements, benefit recovery (aka child tax) and anything else the commies can find.

]]> By: NZCSReform http://menz.org.nz/2004/its-offical-child-support-is-viewed-as-a-tax/#comment-84 NZCSReform Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:20:44 +0000 /?p=40#comment-84 An Interesting article from CIO magazine IRD IT and the doctrine of voluntary compliance. http://cio.co.nz/cio.nsf/0/2C5DD8516BECDB25CC256C4B000C7CA4?OpenDocument Regards Jim An Interesting article from CIO magazine IRD IT and the doctrine of voluntary compliance.
http://cio.co.nz/cio.nsf/0/2C5DD8516BECDB25CC256C4B000C7CA4?OpenDocument

Regards
Jim

]]> By: Mark Shipman http://menz.org.nz/2004/its-offical-child-support-is-viewed-as-a-tax/#comment-83 Mark Shipman Fri, 03 Sep 2004 02:19:09 +0000 /?p=40#comment-83 Re "voluntary contribution to the war efforts of King Edward" try here as a start: http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/australia/oz/082700a.html Re “voluntary contribution to the war efforts of King Edward” try here as a start:

http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/australia/oz/082700a.html

]]> By: ricahrd knight http://menz.org.nz/2004/its-offical-child-support-is-viewed-as-a-tax/#comment-81 ricahrd knight Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:14:19 +0000 /?p=40#comment-81 please send me info or statute whereby taxation is stated as voluntary (circa 1908) this is new to me and may make an interesting addition to my arguments when I decide to make the high court case active richard please send me info or statute whereby taxation is stated as voluntary (circa 1908) this is new to me and may make an interesting addition to my arguments when I decide to make the high court case active
richard

]]> By: Mark Shipman http://menz.org.nz/2004/its-offical-child-support-is-viewed-as-a-tax/#comment-80 Mark Shipman Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:10:29 +0000 /?p=40#comment-80 Wow! Paul, John and David, tell us something we didn't know. <b>If</b> child "support" is not tax then why is it calculated against taxable income (before income tax is calculated). As a general comment, taxation in New Zealand is as flawed as the child "<strike>support</strike>tax" system. <b>How</b> can Cullen, Swain and Co let Air NZ pay just 0.5% tax when I am required to pay at least 24%? <b>How</b> can it be that the "onus of proof now rests with the taxpayer" is seen to be fair and reasonable? It is neither fair nor reasonable that Department of Inland Revenue can claim I have a debt with them and I must then disprove this. In the meantime, I must pay the alleged debt or be penalised (funny that). <b>Why</b> is it that I am forced to pay "income tax" when the New Zealand taxation system is based on "a <b>voluntary</b> contribution [to the war efforts]" (circa 1908)? Funny, but I have never felt that NZ tax is voluntary. Rather that the coercion is so almighty (the penalties are far too grave) that it is foolhardy to not comply. Remember all of you (Helen, Michael, Paul, David et al) who would govern "for the people", election time is coming and the people you govern <b>will</b> make there dissatisfaction felt. <b>Power to the people!</b> Let all decadent politicians beware - the end of their time is nigh. Wow! Paul, John and David, tell us something we didn’t know.

If child “support” is not tax then why is it calculated against taxable income (before income tax is calculated).

As a general comment, taxation in New Zealand is as flawed as the child “supporttax” system.

How can Cullen, Swain and Co let Air NZ pay just 0.5% tax when I am required to pay at least 24%?

How can it be that the “onus of proof now rests with the taxpayer” is seen to be fair and reasonable? It is neither fair nor reasonable that Department of Inland Revenue can claim I have a debt with them and I must then disprove this. In the meantime, I must pay the alleged debt or be penalised (funny that).

Why is it that I am forced to pay “income tax” when the New Zealand taxation system is based on “a voluntary contribution [to the war efforts]” (circa 1908)?

Funny, but I have never felt that NZ tax is voluntary. Rather that the coercion is so almighty (the penalties are far too grave) that it is foolhardy to not comply.

Remember all of you (Helen, Michael, Paul, David et al) who would govern “for the people”, election time is coming and the people you govern will make there dissatisfaction felt.

Power to the people! Let all decadent politicians beware - the end of their time is nigh.

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