Comments on: Toots for Air New Zealand Protest

By: Livus

Livus — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:31:42 +0000

It’s a bit like Racial Profiling. It shouldn’t happen.

They shouldn’t have young kids travelling alone, and if they do, they should have some sort of airline worker sit with them as guys like me don’t want to sit next to strangers kids anyhow.

By: Christianj

Christianj — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 11:21:11 +0000

Make calls to ban the sexist Airline.

Hit em, where it hurts the most.

By: Moose

Moose — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:49:00 +0000

I agree we need to warn other unsuspecting Families and Men who are considering immgrating to the now prooven anti Male NZ.

But I think also another group of people who need warning are our young Men in NZ.

I think they need to be educated on exactly what can and will happen to them if they have children.

And all the law biases against us for having an XY and not an XX chromosome pair.

Also that they as Fathers are a cats whisker away from being imprisoned if they happen to become separated from thier partner and children.

I guess now, no education is necessary for our young Men about how NZ society considers all Men to be paedophiles.

By: JohnP

JohnP — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 07:44:07 +0000

Assuming you are talking about sexual abuse, Felicity quotes data from the Christchurch study which suggests 1.5% natural parents and 22.5% step parents.

Physical abuse is 39 percent mothers and 40 percent fathers.

You can download Felicity’s paper: Myths and Realities about Child Maltreatment [pdf]

Al D Rado – it might be better to start a new thread – particularly if you have information about female abuses – you’ll need to register as an author.

By: tom

tom — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 03:28:45 +0000

Re: * Approx 5% of kids are abused by their fathers.
* Maybe 40-50% by step-fathers & other male relatives.
* About 40% by other males known to them.
* Perhaps 10% by complete strangers.
Where are the stats on female abusers?
Stay tuned, here in Victoria Australia, a 600 page doc. as 3 studies on female (mothers, sisters, aunts,etc) sexual abusers is in the process of being reviewed for publication.
Female sexual abusers represent at least 30% of paedophiles,
most male paedophiles behind bars were victims of chronic incest at the hands of females in their families, and the abuser acted unilaterally (without any involvement from males).

By: Al D Rado

Al D Rado — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 02:39:12 +0000

Chuck Bird … tomorrow
Or WebMaster – is there a better place or way to post some general abuse stats?

By: Chuck Bird

Chuck Bird — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 00:56:45 +0000

Al D Rado

Please show us the statistics and the source.

I note that no women are included in the figures you supply.

By: Jeremy Swanson

Jeremy Swanson — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 00:46:35 +0000

You guys have right and indignation on your side. keep that pressure up. Remember PBS in the USA thought the Fathers Movement was “toothless” and they now admmit they were staggered by the response which they describe as a “massive co-ordinated response”. ANZ hope you will all just go away after getting tired. Don’t let them get away with it. Keep Fighting. You Kiwis never give up. Your forefathers had that spirit and you have it too.

By: Guy Lavigne

Guy Lavigne — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:07:00 +0000

Awesome demo…congrats!

Guy Lavigne
Hawkesbury, Ontario
Canada

By: Al D Rado

Al D Rado — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:46:24 +0000

hmmm – let me see …
… can’t sit next to an unaccompanied kid – God knows what I might do …
… better not sit next to my own kid – God knows what I might do …
(besides – I’ve already been ruled “a risk” to her)
… better not sit next to a woman – God knows what I might do …
(men of course only rape and beat up woman)
… better not sit next to a man – God knows what I might do …
(violence being the male means of communication, and all that jazz)

Who does that leave?

Having looked into various stats, I guess I can safely sum up a few here, with some minor rounding etc.
* Approx 5% of kids are abused by their fathers.
* Maybe 40-50% by step-fathers & other male relatives.
* About 40% by other males known to them.
* Perhaps 10% by complete strangers.

[Quoted statisitics available on request.]

But Dr Felicity Goodyear-Smith summed it all up in one of her writings:
In response to how men are guilty no matter what – “and should there be a complete lack of evidence – that just shows how deviously clever they are”.
(I know I’ve probably misquoted slightly, again – happy to quote the exact phrase later).