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Hi all,

I hope the protest went well today.

I wish to create a data-base of terms and phrases the CYFSterhood have trotted out in the past.

Such phrases as ‘Codependent’, ‘passive-aggressive abuser’, ‘potentially violent,’ ‘socio-path’, ‘pornofile’, ‘alcohol dependent’, ‘alcohol abuser’, ‘feotal alcohol syndrome,’ ‘emotional dependence syndrome,’ ‘can’t accept he’s a scum-sucking male syndrome’, and so on.

It would be useful if you could also include the context in which the CYFSterhood used the phrase(s) to damn you in Court. It would be doubly useful if you could include any (or the probable lack of…) any evidence substantiating the claims of the CYFSterhood.

The object of the exercise is to gather sufficient profiles which I will keep on firing at various in authority, and the media, till the last straw arrives to break the camel’s back.

And with each ‘firing’ I will be including my one simple request. Ergo, that the Family Court operates at a level of proof at least in accord with the Civil Court (about 80% of the tests used by the Criminal Court).

Thus an accusative spouse must have ‘an amount’ of proof before he/she can assert danger to a child in a way which will be acceptable to the Court, can not have a spouse removed from a home by Police until satisfactory proof is offered, and can have the FC indulge him/her with primary care-giver status until he/she has proven the other party is demonstrably unfit.

Our judicial system has worked well since the 13th Century and the institution of the Magna Carter. I see no reason why the FC should be free to operate outside the law of proof which has proven so effective for the previous 700 years.

Innocent till PROVEN guilty must be the test returned to the FC.

For these vile people to assert that it is better to hurt/destroy ten men and dozens of children, sundry grand-parents and care-givers, just in case the system misses one child who is actually in danger, is an affront to civilisation.

This is ducking-stool justice and simply must be stopped.

Only we can stop it. But we have to have the will and courage to be counted.

Please, send the data to dpex@xtra.co.nz

Lastly, one correspondent asserted that ‘many’ ex-CFYS workers are ‘ex’ because of the vileness they witnessed.

Anyone got any ideas about how we can contact a few of these abviously decent folk and get them to state what they know about the CYFSterhood?

Cheers
David.

Prime Minister Helen Clark has been asked to intervene after an Australian court decided not to grant extradition for two Catholic clergymen to face charges of sexual abuse in New Zealand.

At the risk of poetic extravagance I have to ask Will Miss Clark, waste our capital?

Australian Justice Madgwick, said it would be “unjust or oppressive” to send the clergymen back to face trial given the differences between the two countries’ legal systems and the delay in bringing the allegations.

Ken Clearwater, manager of the Male Survivors of Sexual Abuse Trust, which has supported many of the alleged victims, has contacted Miss Clark to ask the Government to get involved, but a spokesman for Miss Clark told Christchurch’s Press newspaper Mr Clearwater’s submission had not yet been received.

While the New Zealand police are still to decide whether to appeal against the judge’s decision, the real test of credibility lies with Miss Clark.

The Australian Judiciary has treated us with the contempt we deserve, so we must look to the person whom through her own behaviour and political interference has brought the New Zealand justice system into disrepute.

If she crosses the Tasman on this one I can’t see her getting any more respect from their judiciary than she does from their airport staff.

We need to come to grips with the implications of the indictment issued against our country.

It effectively reduces us from a democracy to a regime.

أسامة بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن
Open letter to Osama Bin Laden

Are you aware Osama that 9/11 took out only a couple of thousand people? Should you wish to destroy the West may I suggest you come for a fact finding mission in God’s Own, New Zealand. Without the use of overt violence the feminist industry here has nearly managed to destroy family life as we once knew it. Three hundred thousand children suffer every day due to feminist terrorism. This unnecessary situation then infects the parents, grandparents and so on. You will find that the State here will give you assistance in your quest to destroy so long as you endevour to show that all is done to ensure gender and social equality. As with Marxism, the ends justify the means and I know this is how you operate. Feminist philosophy started in the USA but has been refined here in NZ.

At risk of offending you I have to say that it was not you that started terrorism of the modern era but Fattah back in Munich 1972. They lost the prestige and it was past over to you due to the USA redefining terrorism to suit their latest political aims.

Osama, unless you keep up with this new form of terrorism you will soon lose your mantle. Should you wish to take up my offer and perhaps immigrate here, may I suggest you first visit as a female and during your 3 month visitors visa shack up with some dumb ass guy, and get into an argument with him ( perhaps over why you wont let him shag you) Then ring the police ( don’t panic as once you speak with a high pitch plea and sob a bit they will kill for you) you don’t need to mutilate your self just say he has beaten you up and you will have permanent residency before you can say….Fuck me, Mohammad is this for real???

Your future will be bright here as wel. Due to Christianity failing to keep the nuclear family intact I predict Islam will dominate one day, even if it’s just to have Cat Stevens sing “Father & Son”

Yours in Mohammad

The only way of determining that sufficient straw has been loaded on to cause the camel’s back to break is when the camel’s back breaks.

Before that, one needs to maintain the determination to just keep on loading the straw. In other words, each protest, each letter to some authority, each phone-call of protest, every comment made to any third-party is, in its own way, just a bit more straw.

Sooner or later the camel’s back will break.:–))

More straw.

The Ombudsman has acknowledged receipt of several intensely poignant CYFSterhood-victim’s stories I have and has, as a result, undertaken to ask some searching questions of the head of The Evil Empire.

Cheers
David

Last Friday night I sat with some friends who know me well and told them how I had shared my story and to around 400 people. (Why do anything small?) It seems that after posting my story, I seem to have an extra spring in my step and I am more focused on life in general.Why is this? Well, basically I have been living a double life so to speak.

Friends, neighbours, people I work with and for, etc have no idea what happened to my family and that is because I felt so ashamed and embarrassed. How could this happen to me? What would others think? Who could possibly understand let alone believe me?

But while hiding this I had to make up something. This caused me pain because I didn’t want to lie to these people that I liked and needed. What if they one day found out I lied? How could they trust me? So instead I shared as little as possible about my family and talk about something else. I was basically functioning physically but emotionally a mess.

We can talk about the cost of money that is paid to lawyers which is important but it is not the only costs. These custody battles affect our thoughts and emotions and we can’t properly concentrate on our jobs or we just don’t seem to connect to life and people as we had. We don’t sleep well and of course we try to take the pain away through liquor or medication. Anxiety and stress take over.

Oh, the insanity.

But getting back to my point. Today, tomorrow and the next day I intend to hold my head up high and be real about myself to everyone because I realise it isn’t and wasn’t me but the system. And not only that but heaps of others are going through or have gone through the same thing.

It is still sinking in that in the year 2006 our leaders are destroying our families and the law which is supposed to protect us is harming us and our innocent children.

Bullies in the work place have alway been see as male. Here is evidence that the tyrants have no gender boundries.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article360408.ece

Can you please help? URGENT.

We are doing a story on men who are physically assaulted by their female partners, a story that is rarely told. We are looking to talk with a woman who is a reformed husband abuser to talk with John Campbell regarding her experiences and what she did to help herself.

The aim of this story is to help men who are victims of domestic violence, as well as the women who abuse, who need help. Can hide identity if needed.

Please call Solina on 021 897 815 / stheron@tv3.co.nz

Gwynn writes:

Dear John,

It saddens me to see that your website is devoted entirely to the rights of fathers who have been separated from their children by the family court.

I am a mum and have been separated from my children also by way of the family court because of the ‘status quo’ that you will be familiar with.

I wonder if you will ever see that the family court is so far out there with its views and it can be either a dad or a mum that can suffer EXACTLY the same fate through FC.

Ok thanks.

Guess I’ll start a non-gender support group against the injustices of the FC myself!

Anyone who has spent time reading the very numerous pages on this web site will find that there is actually very little about the “rights of fathers”. Copy and paste this phrase (with quotes) into the search field on the top right of this page and see for yourself.

If you search on “fathers rights” you will find a few more references, among them the June/July 2001 MENZ Issues, which has an article Spinning the Feminist Line detailing how the phrase “fathers rights” is largely an invention of radical feminist activists, and used to discredit fathers’ groups and individual fathers receiving support from them.

There have been a few groups who have been interested in father’s or men’s rights, but the vast majority of MENZ contributors and readers would say they are primarily interested in children’s rights.

Examination of the Family Court protest photo above the article, or most of the hundreds of other protest photos on this site will show that woman have always been involved with this movement. Woman have always attended fathers group meetings, and taken part in management of organisations.

I suggest Gwynn, that you make contact with the fathers’ group nearest you and see what kind of reception you get. My guess is that you will find that your “non-gender support group” already exists. Perhaps you might like to report back here?

A while ago I put my case to Ruth Dyson (Min of the CYFSterhood).

I showed, quite clearly, in my posit, that the CYFSterhood had simply created an opinion on my fitness to be a care-giver, and then went about digging up as much trash as they could to support thier opinion.

And that included a speeding ticket I got in 1989! And, that I have a firearms licence. See? It all just goes to show that I’m a speedy little bastard with guns ready to blaze away.

Today, I received Dyson’s reply.

All she has done is contact the CYFSterhood, got a repeat of the crap they have put before the court, and arrived at the conclusion that they are clearly quite right! Of course they are. They’ll all sisters, aren’t they. And it is their duty to drown as many of us predatory men as possible.

So what is it, precisely, we pay these parliamentry clowns to do?

Dealing with these people (and I use the term cautiously) is kind’ve like being in a court where the bench is staffed by wolves sitting in judgement on the fate of the Rabbit.

‘Off with his head!’

I see another contributor has mentioned the scandalous practices of the Catholic Church during the Inquisition.

On that subject, here’s a funny. The Catholic Church still have a list of penance payments for wayward priests. To see more, and get totally outraged I recommend you visit the site of luigicascioli.com and read all about it.

But isn’t that exactly what we men are dealing with here in NZ? The ducking-stool justice system. If he lives he’s a scumbag. If he drowns he was probably a scumbag who just couldn’t breathe underwater.

Has anyone ever considered or actually contacted Grey Power for support?

I bet there must be an awful lot of seriously unhappy grandparents out there. Maybe it’s a source of support for us.

If nobody has made the approach then maybe I will.

Cheers
David.

Canadian Father on Hunger Strike
(From Our Friends in the US with Glenn Sacks)

Canadian father Gerry Nicolas is now on his 9th day of hunger strike in front of the Quebec Provincial Court of Justice in Gatineau. Nicolas has a six year-old boy and a four year-old girl. He only gets every other weekend “visitation,” and says his ex-wife often interferes or eliminates even that. He says that at one point he went three months without seeing his children because of her interference. The police (of course) refuse to enforce the order.

Nicolas also says his children are being alienated from him. Nicolas is black, his ex-wife is Asian, and Nicolas claims his four year-old daughter told him her mother told her not to kiss him “because he’s black.”

Nicolas says he and his ex-wife both earn around $60 or $65 thousand dollars a year, but that he has lost his business and his savings and after his wages are garnisheed he is left with less than $300 a month to live on. He says he has been unable to get a court to resolve these issues, and is on hunger strike to try to force the court to give him a hearing.

I called Gerry yesterday, and he seems very sincere and determined. I’m not sure that a hunger strike is the best tactic–I prefer the bridge and rooftop protests of Fathers 4 Justice–but I support him in what he’s doing. To contact Gerry and give him encouragement, call him on his cell phone at 00 1 (819) 921-1877. His email, which his sister is retrieving and printing out for him, is GeraldNicolas1@yahoo.ca.