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I think the only MP advocating that we actually look closely at what the research is telling us about family violence.

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Julie,
Your comment on a previous post (copied below) has blown a breath of fresh air through my life. Never before have I heard a Kiwi woman state the reality I’ve lived in nz for over 20 years so clearly, honestly and powerfully…..

movement. But now us women are in control. We are calling the shots. But while we are calling the shots, we are destroying our men. Not only are we saying that men are horrible human beings but we are telling them they should be something they were not born to be.

We are telling them that we as women are not just important and that our feelings are not just important but we are teaching our young children that that if they are males then theirs are not important. And we are doing this by the power we are controlling and by the funding we are receiving.

Basically, we are out of control. We have taken so much power that we have forgotton that maybe men need some power.

I’ll continue to dream of the day when it’s commonplace for women in nz to express such sentiments publically.

Femenism is New Zealand has gone too far. Yes, Yes, Yes.

I have to share my day with you all. I am starting to get some important support from women. Infact, I did that little stamping of the feet in happiness, 1,2,3,4 saying, “You said, YET!”

I got the ‘not yet’ but what it is really saying is that I need to do more work and me means you also. And that means the NZ Herald as we got the other day. If you are wondering why we got the NZ Herald the other day then maybe it might be because Menz was searched alot recently because of a scare “Medics anxious over Menz B doco documentory done by 20/20.” And JohnP is doing his best to keep us numbert 1 for google.

I have even noticed the faces on the media trying to ‘not be biased.’

But I learn’t alot today. Part of me wants to thank-you all for putting up with me because I know I have not been easy to convince (especially my favorite Stephen who is not too old and ugly) and the other part wants to tell you others that Helen Clarke will never read your letters. If she is not the most femenist female in NZ then she is one of the biggest. Always has been. But most of you knew that. Damn.

I cannot confirm her being a lesbian though. That is still gossip.

But these women that ‘burnt their bras’ mean’t well. Unfortunately as Stephen always said, they will have boys whether directly or as Grandparents. The next generation has to balance what they did to their extreme.

There is a real life gap between these women and the women today. Some of these women have given their lives to a wonderful cause of freeing women from violence and made the femenist movement in the best of intentions and I as a female will not forget what they have done. But we have gone too far. It is straightforward. You men are paying for our freedom.

So, this is where we as males and females work together. It does come down to your gifts, my gifts, your weaknesses and my weaknesses. We have to compliment each other.

We have much more support than you know. Let’s not give up. Please keep posting and writing your letters. Not only are the charity groups a good idea to talk to but please consider that more than 60% of the people living in NZ are not born in NZ. They have no idea of femenism.

Sunday Star-Times: Protest left my family in fear: lawyer’s wife

A lawyer’s wife who faced assault charges after spraying a group of fathers’ rights protesters with a hose says the protest left her in shock, fear and disbelief.
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In Auckland District Court last week, Kara-France pleaded guilty to common assault and was discharged without conviction.

In a speech addressing the and released to the Sunday Star-Times she says:

“You treated me and my children as if we were `nothing’, `dirt’. You treated my husband as if he was to blame for all of your problems and the situation that you put yourselves into. You all left me hugging my sons, and they me, in shock, fear, tears and disbelief. You all have no idea how much pain and ruin the above mentioned had impacted on our lives.”

She goes on to say: “Nevertheless I forgive you all.”

Ina Kara-France hosing protestors (photographer unknown)

Personally, I think this is a reasonable outcome. Mrs Kara-France and her children are not indirectly responsible for Ross France’s behaviour after all, and the unfortunate use of a Nazi banner on the street outside their home was fairly provocative!

It is a shame that there needs to be some kind of violence or disturbance involved before the media will pay attention to fathers’ issues.

Just a brief note that tomorrow sees this case finally going before ones peers after 2 years at the Auckland District Court at 10.00am.
Full details Police persecution
Jim Bagnall will be taking the stand under summons as will Mike of the Fathers Coalition frontline troops.
If anyone can avail themself to a presence from Monday till ???? in support it would be grateful.
As Jim the Warrior would say Onward, and as Peter would say in Solidarity.

Kindest regards to all.
Paul

Here’s a useful apge with lots of links for men who are being abused by their partners/wives.

It shows how men can use modern day technology to

keep safe from female abuse

and at the same time expose it so that it can be dealt with.

The male pill, currently on trial in 3 countries will put a big dent in the problem outlined here -

The push for justice over the ditch continues..

Men have great incentive for using a male pill.
Up to 19 years of child support to be paid for by men in nz who’ve been duped into believing they’re the true father, or dumped unilaterally by the many women who so readily use nz’s ‘no fault’ divorce laws.
It’s another scam the feminists are conspicuously silent about.

I’ve decided to forgive Simon Collins for his Preventing Violence in the Home promotion after reading his well researched Monday NZ Herald article: Domestic violence campaigners accused of bias

Two top health researchers have accused the Families Commission of “ideologically driven” bias in presenting domestic violence as a problem of men battering women.

Professor David Fergusson and Associate Professor Richie Poulton said their respective long-term studies of people born in Christchurch and Dunedin in the 1970s showed that most domestic violence was mutual.

“In a high proportion of these couples, we are seeing mutual fighting. It’s brawling,” said Professor Fergusson.
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Dateline: Alberta, Canada
From: The Honor Network
Author: Rob Fedders

October 23, 2006

New Provincial Law in Alberta Allows Police to Seize Automobiles of Men Soliciting Prostitutes

ALBERTA – A new law came into effect in Alberta today which snuck in through the Traffic and Safety Act. It gives police the power to seize the automobiles of men who solicit street prostitutes. The province of Saskatchewan has previously passed similar legislation against men in 1999, as well as Manitoba in 2002.

Brian Nowlan, of the Edmonton Police, believes that threatening men with the permanent loss of their vehicle will be effective and issued the following statement: “Johns are going to run the risk of losing their vehicle, not just having it seized and impounded temporarily.”

The law was passed as a private members bill almost three years ago and Cabinet gave it its final approval earlier this month after examining if the law would violate Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms. While politicians, community groups and prostitution activists all support the new law, Stephen Jenuph, of the Alberta Civil Liberties Association is on record stating: “It’s a matter that tends to be a random application of the law depending not on a fair hearing, but on the feelings of a particular officer on a particular day.” Jenuph also stated, “I don’t think that in a free and democratic society, decisions regarding punishment should be left up to the police.”

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Also by Simon Collins in Saturday’s NZ Herald, another story titled ‘Changing places‘ set my mental propoganda alarm ringing by a beginning with three atrocity stories about violent men:

These three stories from the Herald in the past year have a common theme. In all cases, desperate men turned to violent or controlling behaviour at least partly because they had lost the prime breadwinning role that gives a purpose to most men’s lives.

More than a third of New Zealand couples are now coping with the same phenomenon. In the 2001 census, the woman was in the same or a higher income band than the man in 37 per cent of all couples aged 15 to 64 who stated their incomes - up from 20 per cent in 1986.

Dr Paul Callister, of Victoria University’s Institute of Policy Studies, points to other signs that men’s traditional economic domination is crumbling. Women’s average hourly wages have gradually crept up from 79.5 per cent of the male average in 1986 to 84.1 per cent in 2001 to 85.5 per cent in this year.

Now personally, I have never felt the need to bash Felicity because she earns more than me, but I have no doubt that earning ability is a significant factor contributing to the balance of power in any relationship.
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