If you were not pre-determined in your response, you would have welcomed the factual input. You can choose to disagree with it, but you wouldn’t simply write if off as akin to a newspaper article.

Your past experience that you did ALL household chores (inside and outside, even painting your house and cleaning the car), thereby precluding ANY contribution whatsoever, no matter how small, from your previous partner, seems to support your bias. I would love to meet the man (presumably a man) that managed to never lift a single solitary finger in contribution towards the upkeep of the house.
Or was he too busy working in paid employment, a role we are told, is equal in contribution to the family as that of doing ‘all’ the aforementioned tasks.

For the record, my partner and I share chores. I am not one of those “a**holes” your earlier labelled so many of us.

You asked for information; I provided it. You choose to simply write it off without any sound reason.

That does not strike me as the action of an open-minded person willing to enter into reasoned debate.

First you simply cry foul that I would exhort men to declare all their efforts, no matter how minicule (refer to thread 2006 Census!)

Then you ask whether any studies have been done, in order to presumably guage the contribution men in reality make to the family.

The, as soon as one very relevent study is presented, you simply decry the results, as presumably they do not declare what you want to see.

If a study was initiated out by a feminist movement, would it have validity?

If the study had, say 1000 respondents, would it carry weight?

This one is a massive five years old - it’s invalid, you cry!

I even provided you the link: you clearly did not bother to read further. You clearly were not even prepared to carry out your own research; but to simply decry the FACTS placed in front of you.

To simply decry the propostion that men undertake, on the whole, a more or less equal participation in both paid employment and household chores, when tallied together, seemed to be your sole objective.

To put it simvply, you appear completely closed-minded.

The survey was commissioned by the Ministry of Women’s Affairs in 1997.

It covered about 8,500 respondents, over a one year period, and was the first, and certainly most comprehensive done in NZ to date.

Surveys of that magnitude cannot be carried out every year - that it is so recent is remarkable.

That you seem intent on ignoring a factual reality is something you might wish to take up with your own kin - the Ministry of Women’s Affairs, rather than simply to continue to denigrate men, which to me appears your sole intent.

Paid Employment:

females aged 12 and over
spent 16 hours per week on average on labour force activities compared with 29 hours per week for males aged 12 and over.

Volunteer Work:

Young people in the 12-24 age group spent the least time on these activities at an average of around 5 minutes a day or 31 hours a year, including 18 hours of religious practice. People over the age of 65 spent an average of 10 minutes a day or 59 hours a year on religious, cultural and civic participation, 31 hours of which was religious practice. Mäori people tend to spend more time on religious, cultural and civic participation than non-Mäori. The survey showed that Mäori women spent an average of 12 minutes a day (74 hours a year) on these activities, compared with 7 minutes a day (41 hours a year) for non-Mäori women, while Mäori men spent an average of 13 minutes a day (76 hours a The survey showed that overall people did an average of 48 minutes of unpaid work outside the home each day, including 29 minutes in which it was the primary activity. However, there were clear differences in participation across age groups and between the sexes. Figure 3.1.10 shows that, up to retirement age, women did more unpaid work than
men and the amount done by both sexes increased
with age. In the 12-24 age group, both sexes did a similar amount of unpaid work outside the home
(14 minutes a day for females and 13 minutes a day for males). However, by the ages of 55-64 women spent an average of 63 minutes a day on this activity, compared with 41 minutes for men. In the retirement age group of 65 and over men actually did more unpaid work outside the home than women (41 minutes compared with 34 minutes).

Unpaid Work:

Unpaid work activities identified by the survey are classified into four categories including household work, caregiving for household members, purchasing goods or services for one’s own household, and unpaid work for people outside the home.

The amount of primary activity time spent on unpaid work activities by women and men, Mäori and non-Mäori shows a clear gender effect, with women’s unpaid work averaging about 4.8 hours a day compared with men’s 2.8 hours.

Which, if my maths is anything close to reliable, means women spend somewhere circa .5hr per day more than men on combined volunteer, paid and domestic activity.

You say you’re a great supporter of the men’s movement, yet I wonder how many men feel supported reading that if they tick yes for having helped thier old Aunty get to a hospital they’re still in your opinion a lazy bastard.

Where’s your heart?