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	<title>Comments on: An expose of  a family court.</title>
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		<title>By: cwb</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-45311</link>
		<dc:creator>cwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 08:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i  crawl  back  under  my  rock  now  and  suffer  in  silence,  that's  my  15  minutes  of  fame  completed,  next  please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i  crawl  back  under  my  rock  now  and  suffer  in  silence,  that&#8217;s  my  15  minutes  of  fame  completed,  next  please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: miss mug</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-45283</link>
		<dc:creator>miss mug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 03:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know what they say: governments do what is best for the people...only after all other avenues have been completely exhausted.
jobs for the boys, so much money in getting it wrong, and the same goes for the media. 
the tiers upon tiers of unnecessary bureaucracy is a scandal that the media won't expose. why? because they are self-serving.
so what is the menz group doing to 'out' the situation aside from giving us all a chat room to vent our spleens on? there must be more effective stuff to do than that. otherwise you may as well write to the editor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know what they say: governments do what is best for the people&#8230;only after all other avenues have been completely exhausted.<br />
jobs for the boys, so much money in getting it wrong, and the same goes for the media.<br />
the tiers upon tiers of unnecessary bureaucracy is a scandal that the media won&#8217;t expose. why? because they are self-serving.<br />
so what is the menz group doing to &#8216;out&#8217; the situation aside from giving us all a chat room to vent our spleens on? there must be more effective stuff to do than that. otherwise you may as well write to the editor.</p>
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		<title>By: cwb</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-45271</link>
		<dc:creator>cwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'm  starting  to  have  more  respect  for  the  mongrel  mob  than  the  new  zealand  government,  simply  put.  New Zealand  government  is  the  perbatrator  of  PROMOTING  social  injustice  in  this  country,  not  REDUCING  it. Good  point  you  raised  too,  I
am  happy  menz.org.nz  have  given  myself  a  platform  to  share  my  experience,  to  the  public  arena,  the  journalists/media  are  too  weak  to  take  on  SOCIAL  INJUSTICE  issues,  that  is  fact.  Wake  up  John  Cambell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m  starting  to  have  more  respect  for  the  mongrel  mob  than  the  new  zealand  government,  simply  put.  New Zealand  government  is  the  perbatrator  of  PROMOTING  social  injustice  in  this  country,  not  REDUCING  it. Good  point  you  raised  too,  I<br />
am  happy  menz.org.nz  have  given  myself  a  platform  to  share  my  experience,  to  the  public  arena,  the  journalists/media  are  too  weak  to  take  on  SOCIAL  INJUSTICE  issues,  that  is  fact.  Wake  up  John  Cambell.</p>
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		<title>By: miss mug</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-45268</link>
		<dc:creator>miss mug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can't be hoping to get a common sense response from cyfs, cwb, or responsible use of taxpayers money.
how many fathers and children are currently doing the farce that is supervised access? perhaps it's time the menz group asked for an answer on that during question time in the house.
i know of one father who stayed the course and then succeeded in winning custody so hang in there. now that the mother can't attack him any longer, she is indulged in making her notifications against ME! one has to wonder how many paid hours of social worker's time is spent molly-coddling vindictive and scheming mothers who have proven unfit to keep their own children. what sort of agenda can justify allowing such people to continue playing their games at the expense of the taxpayer unchallenged?
boggles the mind.
what is the menz group doing currently to expose these people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can&#8217;t be hoping to get a common sense response from cyfs, cwb, or responsible use of taxpayers money.<br />
how many fathers and children are currently doing the farce that is supervised access? perhaps it&#8217;s time the menz group asked for an answer on that during question time in the house.<br />
i know of one father who stayed the course and then succeeded in winning custody so hang in there. now that the mother can&#8217;t attack him any longer, she is indulged in making her notifications against ME! one has to wonder how many paid hours of social worker&#8217;s time is spent molly-coddling vindictive and scheming mothers who have proven unfit to keep their own children. what sort of agenda can justify allowing such people to continue playing their games at the expense of the taxpayer unchallenged?<br />
boggles the mind.<br />
what is the menz group doing currently to expose these people?</p>
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		<title>By: cwb</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-45267</link>
		<dc:creator>cwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CHILD, YOUTH and  FAMILY, grey  lynn  (their  letter  to  my  phonecall  to  them)
Dear  Mr B,
I  am  writing  to  confirm  that  on  Wednesday 5 April  2006  you  telephoned  with  information  about  your  son  FW.  You  advised  our  Department  that  the  Family  Court  had  granted  you  three  hours  supervised  access  at  the  Napier  Family  Centre,  and  said  that  this  decision  emotionally  abused  FW  because  he  is  being  denied  his  father.
As discussed  by  telephone,  the  Department  of  Child  Youth  and  Family  does  not  have  a  statutory  mandate  to  investigate  your  concerns.  Accordingly,  I have recorded  the  information  and  passed  it  onto  a Social  Worker  Supervisor  at  the  Napier  Office  of  the  Department  with  a  recommendation  that  the  office  take  no  further  action.

Yours  sincerely,
Judie  Ward
Intake  Social  Worker  

I'm  astounded  at  the  amount  of  money  and  resources  this  government  contribute in  regards  to  involving  themselves  in  other  peoples  lives  where  more  than  necessary  and  not  involving  themselves  where  necessary,  family  court,  child  youth  and  family,  ministry  of  social  development,  ministry  of  womens  affairs,  commissioner  for  children, counsellor's. 

Child,  Youth  and  Family  state  that  even  they  have  no  statutory  mandate  to  basically  do  their  job,  unimpeded  basically.
What  a  waste  of  an  organisation,  privy  to  the  highest  paid  public  servants  as  a  group  in  this  land,  yet  the  public  are  still  not  being  served...
GRAVY  TRAIN  UNLIMITED,  CHOO,  CHOO,  COMING  TO  A  TOWN  NEAR  YOU  SOON !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHILD, YOUTH and  FAMILY, grey  lynn  (their  letter  to  my  phonecall  to  them)<br />
Dear  Mr B,<br />
I  am  writing  to  confirm  that  on  Wednesday 5 April  2006  you  telephoned  with  information  about  your  son  FW.  You  advised  our  Department  that  the  Family  Court  had  granted  you  three  hours  supervised  access  at  the  Napier  Family  Centre,  and  said  that  this  decision  emotionally  abused  FW  because  he  is  being  denied  his  father.<br />
As discussed  by  telephone,  the  Department  of  Child  Youth  and  Family  does  not  have  a  statutory  mandate  to  investigate  your  concerns.  Accordingly,  I have recorded  the  information  and  passed  it  onto  a Social  Worker  Supervisor  at  the  Napier  Office  of  the  Department  with  a  recommendation  that  the  office  take  no  further  action.</p>
<p>Yours  sincerely,<br />
Judie  Ward<br />
Intake  Social  Worker  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m  astounded  at  the  amount  of  money  and  resources  this  government  contribute in  regards  to  involving  themselves  in  other  peoples  lives  where  more  than  necessary  and  not  involving  themselves  where  necessary,  family  court,  child  youth  and  family,  ministry  of  social  development,  ministry  of  womens  affairs,  commissioner  for  children, counsellor&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Child,  Youth  and  Family  state  that  even  they  have  no  statutory  mandate  to  basically  do  their  job,  unimpeded  basically.<br />
What  a  waste  of  an  organisation,  privy  to  the  highest  paid  public  servants  as  a  group  in  this  land,  yet  the  public  are  still  not  being  served&#8230;<br />
GRAVY  TRAIN  UNLIMITED,  CHOO,  CHOO,  COMING  TO  A  TOWN  NEAR  YOU  SOON !!!</p>
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		<title>By: cwb</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-44820</link>
		<dc:creator>cwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, on  a  lighter  note,  we  need  danny  krane,  just  as  much  as  that  yank  in  Massachusetts does(state  for  boston).  And  if  you  can't  get  a  good  lawyer  like  him,  i  believe  in  going  above  the  law  within  reason,  as  it  is  well  known,  the  law  is  an  ASS.
Peter  BoULLSHITeR;  position  being  to  keep  the  family  court  lawyers  in  a  job.
Not  enough  is  done  to  torment  the  image  of  the  family  court  in  N.Z, an  anti-Family  Court banner  could  be  the  New  Zealand  flag  with  the  4  stars  replaced  with  4  swastika's  and  the  2  words  underneath,  Family  Court.  United  we  stand,  divided  we  fall,  there  needs  to  be  an  oraganised  uprising  against  the  family  court,  in  all  sincerity,  some  serious  stuff.   BoULLSHITer  is  just  another  phoney
in  this  current  government  line  up, nothing  will  change  unless  there  is  a  little  'argy  bargy'  I  say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, on  a  lighter  note,  we  need  danny  krane,  just  as  much  as  that  yank  in  Massachusetts does(state  for  boston).  And  if  you  can&#8217;t  get  a  good  lawyer  like  him,  i  believe  in  going  above  the  law  within  reason,  as  it  is  well  known,  the  law  is  an  ASS.<br />
Peter  BoULLSHITeR;  position  being  to  keep  the  family  court  lawyers  in  a  job.<br />
Not  enough  is  done  to  torment  the  image  of  the  family  court  in  N.Z, an  anti-Family  Court banner  could  be  the  New  Zealand  flag  with  the  4  stars  replaced  with  4  swastika&#8217;s  and  the  2  words  underneath,  Family  Court.  United  we  stand,  divided  we  fall,  there  needs  to  be  an  oraganised  uprising  against  the  family  court,  in  all  sincerity,  some  serious  stuff.   BoULLSHITer  is  just  another  phoney<br />
in  this  current  government  line  up, nothing  will  change  unless  there  is  a  little  &#8216;argy  bargy&#8217;  I  say.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrap_The_CSA</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-44797</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrap_The_CSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CWB so we just give up and let them keep screwing us? 

Regards
Scrap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CWB so we just give up and let them keep screwing us? </p>
<p>Regards<br />
Scrap</p>
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		<title>By: cwb</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-44787</link>
		<dc:creator>cwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>human  nature  is  universal,  father's  are  the  target  irrelavant  of  any  country's  law  on  the  matter,  i  will  never  see  my  son  ever,  8  years  at  this  stage,  just  how  it  is,  exactly  as  our  yankee  doodle  dandy  freiend  explains,  it's  a  gravy  train  for  the  sake  of  money  only,  'the best  interest  of  the  child  lie'  serves  as  the  coal   in  the  engine  room  to  keep  that  gravy  train  chugging  along,  no  new laws  are  going  to  be  passed  to  put  lawyers and  judges  out  of  a  job. My  opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>human  nature  is  universal,  father&#8217;s  are  the  target  irrelavant  of  any  country&#8217;s  law  on  the  matter,  i  will  never  see  my  son  ever,  8  years  at  this  stage,  just  how  it  is,  exactly  as  our  yankee  doodle  dandy  freiend  explains,  it&#8217;s  a  gravy  train  for  the  sake  of  money  only,  &#8216;the best  interest  of  the  child  lie&#8217;  serves  as  the  coal   in  the  engine  room  to  keep  that  gravy  train  chugging  along,  no  new laws  are  going  to  be  passed  to  put  lawyers and  judges  out  of  a  job. My  opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnP</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-44775</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 09:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is near the boundries of off-topicness, but not outside IMO. 

I would have preferred to read Stephen's (there IS currently only one) impressions of the book and why he thought it might be relevant for a NZer to read, with a link to the book content elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is near the boundries of off-topicness, but not outside IMO. </p>
<p>I would have preferred to read Stephen&#8217;s (there IS currently only one) impressions of the book and why he thought it might be relevant for a NZer to read, with a link to the book content elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: triassic</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/an-expose-of-a-family-court/#comment-44739</link>
		<dc:creator>triassic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to get things straight here: Did Stephen in Korea post this on behalf of Kevin or is this Stephen a different and new identity??? 
I ask this because I like to keep track of the identities on this site. 

I also acknowledge that the evil of 'victim feminism' came out of the USA and as such the men in the USA are responsible to eradicate it from the west. 

True emancipation of women has evolved in the Soviet Union where unspoilt women became equal with men in pay and employment through necessity. They still value their feminist side and love to have the opportunity to remain at home with the children if they possibly could. They appear to put Family values above material values. If Kevin is endeavouring to change the world wide destruction of family life without profit I commend him. If he wants me to buy his book for profit then he has not learnt why feminism reigns in the "Land of The Free".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to get things straight here: Did Stephen in Korea post this on behalf of Kevin or is this Stephen a different and new identity???<br />
I ask this because I like to keep track of the identities on this site. </p>
<p>I also acknowledge that the evil of &#8216;victim feminism&#8217; came out of the USA and as such the men in the USA are responsible to eradicate it from the west. </p>
<p>True emancipation of women has evolved in the Soviet Union where unspoilt women became equal with men in pay and employment through necessity. They still value their feminist side and love to have the opportunity to remain at home with the children if they possibly could. They appear to put Family values above material values. If Kevin is endeavouring to change the world wide destruction of family life without profit I commend him. If he wants me to buy his book for profit then he has not learnt why feminism reigns in the &#8220;Land of The Free&#8221;.</p>
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