Comments on: Data Base http://menz.org.nz/2006/data-base/ - promoting a clearer understanding of men's experience - Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:28:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: julie http://menz.org.nz/2006/data-base/#comment-47996 julie Mon, 01 May 2006 02:44:58 +0000 http://menz.org.nz/2006/data-base/#comment-47996 Even though I am hard on CYFS in my previous comment, I am aware that not all social workers behave as I have described. And I am also aware that it is a high pressure job. And that CYFS does save some children from very unhealthy homes. Even though I am hard on CYFS in my previous comment, I am aware that not all social workers behave as I have described. And I am also aware that it is a high pressure job. And that CYFS does save some children from very unhealthy homes.

]]> By: julie http://menz.org.nz/2006/data-base/#comment-47869 julie Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:47:21 +0000 http://menz.org.nz/2006/data-base/#comment-47869 Dpex, I was talking kids with a few ladies and one of them commented on her 8 year old being overweight. (Obesity is the latest thing) It saddens me that we name every imperfection our children have as a condition of some sort and that the parents made it happen. If CYFS were involved with her case the child would be suffering from some sort of abuse from the mother. It is that simple. Everything a child does is for a reason and CYFS analyse these reasons through books some student whether in school or out side school has written with ideas they have come up with back with so caled research. Your child doesn't have average grades, you abuse them. Your children don't sleep well, you abuse them. Your children cry after they see you, you are abusing them. This idea that bullies come from homes where they are bullied means you abuse them. The reason CYFS look under a microscope at your present life style and your past is to find an excuse for your children not being perfect. Dave L I can imagine the protests having a personal positive effect. Glad you shared that and glad you went. For me anyhow, just thinking of joining in is a start. Just haven't got the courage yet. Dpex,

I was talking kids with a few ladies and one of them commented on her 8 year old being overweight. (Obesity is the latest thing)

It saddens me that we name every imperfection our children have as a condition of some sort and that the parents made it happen. If CYFS were involved with her case the child would be suffering from some sort of abuse from the mother. It is that simple. Everything a child does is for a reason and CYFS analyse these reasons through books some student whether in school or out side school has written with ideas they have come up with back with so caled research.
Your child doesn’t have average grades, you abuse them. Your children don’t sleep well, you abuse them. Your children cry after they see you, you are abusing them. This idea that bullies come from homes where they are bullied means you abuse them.

The reason CYFS look under a microscope at your present life style and your past is to find an excuse for your children not being perfect.

Dave L
I can imagine the protests having a personal positive effect. Glad you shared that and glad you went. For me anyhow, just thinking of joining in is a start. Just haven’t got the courage yet.

]]> By: DAVE L http://menz.org.nz/2006/data-base/#comment-47856 DAVE L Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:54:17 +0000 http://menz.org.nz/2006/data-base/#comment-47856 dpex sorry cant help you with any phrases yet hopefully I Wont come to that point,but who knows with this bloody system in place ah.So Ill take the opportunity to reply to your point about todays protest, yes it did go very well. Our seasoned campaigners were giving their all along with with us not so seasoned.If this does not have the desired effect on these lawers what the hell will.Tell you what its great to get invovled it gives you a sense of release and a feeling that there is something you can do for all NZ kids.After The protest there was much enjoyment and happy banter as we talked over the events of the six visits to bad lawers homes,and the shared company with other dads and their children.So I must say to all you folk dont miss out join in next time you will be pleased you did see you there.Dave.L. dpex sorry cant help you with any phrases yet hopefully I Wont come to that point,but who knows with this bloody system in place ah.So Ill take the opportunity to reply to your point about todays protest, yes it did go very well. Our seasoned campaigners were giving their all along with with us not so seasoned.If this does not have the desired effect on these lawers what the hell will.Tell you what its great to get invovled it gives you a sense of release and a feeling that there is something you can do for all NZ kids.After The protest there was much enjoyment and happy banter as we talked over the events of the six visits to bad lawers homes,and the shared company with other dads and their children.So I must say to all you folk dont miss out join in next time you will be pleased you did see you there.Dave.L.

]]> By: Al D Rado http://menz.org.nz/2006/data-base/#comment-47842 Al D Rado Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:41:52 +0000 http://menz.org.nz/2006/data-base/#comment-47842 Hi dpex. You know my phrases. Various descriptors about me were actual words used. Hi dpex.

You know my phrases.
Various descriptors about me were actual words used.

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