Father Christmas the next F4J superhero?
Here’s a documentary video to show the passion of fathers alienated from their children.
Seeing this is hugely encouraging.
I tried the link a few moments ago. It failed, so in case the link doesn’t work try this –
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=567808857988196402
Thankfully this movement for social justice for our kids is making headway.
Merry Christmas everyone.
I hope and pray that FATHER Christmas brings all Men’s Rights Activists globally lots of good things.
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With hindsight, the warning signs were there however when you are in a relationship it’s very much a case of ‘love is blind’. Or was it because I was conditioned by my mother who took me away from my father at age seven, never having another relationship with a man and then ostracising me once I had left home?
Following seperation, we are all to well aware that once proceedings move into the legal arena that human nature and greedy lawyers will inevitably attempt to destroy what little still remains of your life. Your ex will of course deny her true motives for ending the relationship. You will most likely be subjected to bizarre accusations and harassed by the feminist mafia (Femily Court, Police, IRD, school teachers, banks,…). Prior to my seperation I had always been a hard working family man (primary care giver to boot) who hadn’t even incurred so much as a parking ticket!
So that perhaps others will be more aware here are some indications that the end may be nigh;
She develops a seperate circle of friends and chooses not to attend functions with your friends or family.
She changes to her own doctor.
The family car ownership changes from joint to her name.
All of the household chattels are now refered to as being ‘hers’.
She and members of her extended family start mocking your job.
Your birthday is completely forgotten. While for hers she demands extravagant gifts.
Lovemaking (sex) is also used as an opportunity to ask for gifts (odd given that she earns over $60000.00 herself)
She develops a bizarre victim mentality where no matter how sick or tired you are she is always more so.
She breaks down your self esteem. Nothing you do is good enough. She wants it all, and she wants it now!
She makes odious comparisons with a successful businessman (the same one who is never there for his family). She loves spending the $85000.00 you earn, just not how you earn it.
She frankly tells you that her clairvoant has told her that her next partner will be an older man and they will live in a very large house.
There is no issue that she (and you) are quite within your rights to end the relationship. She may just want to retain the benefits too i.e. to have her cake and eat it too, to take the money and the bag!
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For those thinking of starting a relationship you should be aware that; (For if your relationship does end you will recieve no favour from society for having done so).
Don’t sacrafice your career. Ultimately, what really matters to her is your job status not how much child care or housework you do.
Don’t get too close to your (sorry her) children. Chances are that your love for them will be used as a weapon against you later on. Never ever come across as actually being a competent caring parent.
Should you have boys, unless you can afford a private education, don’t expect them to have an equal opportunity of a good education.
If/when the relationship ends expect the IRD to ignore the law and extract as much money from you as they can, even when you don’t have any, regardless of how much she earns and even if you are still the primary care giver!
Take care all.
Can we all have a minutes silence for all the fathers who have no or limited access to their children today;and their and their children’s[maybe] grief; please.
Stephen,
This is wonderful to watch. I didn’t think english fathers would take this lying down.
Peter,
You bring some very rational thinking and other stuff that is very enlightening. I am glad you are here.
Stephen,
I have done wrong by you and yet I do not know what my consequence is???
I am not one of these women that are going to call victim. Destroy me if you must, show your anger, please. I’d rather a punch in the nose anyday compared to being ignored. I look for my destruction yet I can’t find it. Like you say, Chivalry is sooooooo yesterday. Hey, man you have done this fight for 20 years, I am not your enemy. In fact women today do not think like your feminists. The way I see it is that you and your bros and sisters were just stone-heads at university making a stand. You have to understand that your actions (yes, you, as you also are guilty of developing ths feminism) have to take the wrath. I want your wrath back at me before I say I am on your side.
Otherwise I am contracted to you, forever having to watch my back. I would rather pull out if I know someone can destroy me and holds a vendeta.
Julie,
First you get my personal e-mail address from god knows where, then without being invited to you start bombing it with insults like ’son of a bitch’ simply because openly on one of these threads I respectfully and publically disagree with you over something.
Then you come over all paranoid inferring into the bargain that I’m some kind of vengeance seeker-in-waiting whose going to exact retribution.
Am I offended by all of this? Am I insulted by all of this.
Yes. Very.
Am I threatened to the point of feeling anger about all of this?
No. Why should I be, I’m secure about myself, keeping myself at a safe distance from you and it’s not me whose done the provocative disrespectful insulting.
The very notion that I would wish to destroy you speaks volumes to me Julie. That in itself is as large an insult as having my mother maliciously defamed.
However apart from having no wish to destroy anyone, I invite you to consider this – when you hurl abusive insult at someone in a sense you destroy yourself. For you lose trust, respect and grace.
So why would I then need to destroy you when you’re already doing that?
As for culpability for having created modern day feminism. Yes, I would have to agree that 20 or so years ago I played a part in supporting it’s growth.
Thankfully with the help of much wiser minds than mine I’ve moved on from such naivity and now I’m working asiduously to correct that mistake.
Stephen,
Thanx for comment as it is dealt with. Better to deal with something rather than let it be. IMO
I don’t think I will ever get trust on either side. It doesn’t make sense to me today as it hadn’t 11 months ago. And I think that’s why so many others don’t get involved. This is a war between the genders. And both genders will lose out in the end. While the one’s that ‘do life’ on life’s terms will survive.
What an interesting year 2006 has been.
Julie,
You’ll get the trust of people by earning it. That means overcoming any belligerant urges to isolate, then harrass them – (in my case with your abusive e-mail) when they disagree with you.
That means playing it out in the open where everyone can see what you’re doing. Being accountable, NOT FOX-LIKE.
I hope you can do that this year instead of sneaking around again and trying to damage me from the shadows.
I’ve kept your offensive e-mails in case there’s any reoccurance.
As long as you don’t repeat such violence you have nothing to fear.
The e-mails will then stay private.
However the moment you repeat such offfensive behaviour towards me or others I’ll publish.
I have no time for such antics.
I disagree with you about something here too Julie.
This isn’t a war between the genders. For as you yourself have pointed out on other threads here, there are unfortunately some men who’ll naively or for their own selfish reasons side with those who appear so hellbent on demonising men. Conversely too there are a some few rare women who’ll stick their necks out publically and defend men against the demonising so culturally fashionable and widely spread by feminists in western culture.
So it’s really a war on fathers and men in general under the guise of being to protect women and children from those ‘beastly’ menfolk.
When you get that, perhaps things will make more sense.
I agree with you that many folks don’t get involved in supporting men’s rights but my reasoning is different from yours about that.
There are two major impediments to such support. These are being gradually and inexorably overcome.
Firstly men’s conditioning to be stoic and silent about their pain being brought out by the fine work of such men as Bruce Mackie, Rex McCann and Warwick Pudney to name only a few.
Secondly women, who numerically outnumber men and so hold sway politically in a democracy have yet to feel enough pain to want to change such that they go into bat for Men’s rights. That might sound like a case for defeat, but far from it. Judging from increasing numbers of men’s resistance to and disengagement from romance with women and marriage, women are indeed starting to feel the pain. Hence the dive by so many into dressing whore-like to try to seduce men back into line. Hence the HUGE focus of magazines, e-zines and TV aimed at young women on how to snare well-heeled men.
But it’s not working. Young guys are figuring out that to way too many women they’re just a credit card to be thrown away when the credits maxed-out. And sensibly they want no part of that.
So there’s lots to do.
You can assist greatly in helping your sons and othere nz menfolk to have a future where they are treated as equals in public and private.
I pray for a time when we can celebrate such and there’s no longer any need for men to be ’superheros’ climbing towercranes and parliamentary buildings as an antidote to massive grief and/or suicidal despair at the loss of their kin.
Wouldn’t it be great if you could actually enjoy seeing a son/sons of yours have a relationship with their child/ren – your grandchild/children.
Imagine a relationship that wasn’t smashed by the child’s mother alienating the child from him in one of our secretive ‘family’ ‘courts’
where too many good men get cruelly damaged in the shadows without due process by fox-like characters.
You alongside your son/s you too could then have a normal healthy relationship with that child/children.
That would be wonderful!
Happy New Year.
Stephen wrote:
Actually, all registered users can see the e-mail addresses of people who make comments on the Manage > Comments page in the Admin section – nothing sinister!
I think you make a vital point when you say:
Although we talk about the “father removal industry”, it isn’t just the man who is the target.
Remember, the goal of radical feminism is to destroy the entire patriarchal family, and this necessarily involves breaking a child’s ties with aunties uncles, grandmothers, grandfathers – anyone connected with the male bloodline.
The more these basic foundations of civil society are weakend, the more opportunity there is for government (ie: feminist) funded and controlled institutions to step into the gap.
With two teenage sons it is very appropriate that Julie is concerned with these issues. It may be that she is inclined to become a little over emotional at times
but I still think her heart is mostly in the right place.
John,
Never more true words spoken –
Thanks for pointing out my oversight -
and for hosting another year of MENZ which judging from the hits it gets each and every day is a real touchstone for many.
Wishing you and family the best this season has to offer.
Julie,
I know I’m tough on you. You keep periodically spouting the kind of stuff fems have been alienating and demonising me and good male buddies with for decades, but for which these days I have rigourous defense.
So don’t take my strong reactions too personally and then get overemotional.
I actually admire the way you fall flat but keep picking yourself up!
Seasons geetings.
Enjoy your lads and say a prayer for mine.
John and Stephen,
I appreciate your comments and I don’t mind either of you being hard on me. GULP! In fact you build me up to become smarter and stronger. (This is not encouragement) Gosh, I would normally have to pay tens of thousands of dollars for such training. (still not encouragement)
But on the other hand in some ways I am perfect for this fight. This is not just for my boys but for all my family. Women, men and teenagers know this is going on yet they can’t often name it. I get a lot of thanx for speaking about it. But even more than getting thanx, I give HOPE. And that’s what you both give too.
Can you just imagine how many, many, many lives would change for the better if they weren’t under the control of feminism. And that’s my biggest anger. Who gave them the right to play GOD. Wars were fought for freedom, lives sacraficed for freedom but we have very little of that today.