It’s official…….men are leaving nz……..
Source – Stuff.co.nz
Census reveals Kiwi man drought
06 December 2006
By DAN EATON
There is officially a man drought in New Zealand, according to the results of the latest census released today, which also showed significant changes in the country’s ethnic make-up.
The figures from the 2006 National Census showed that the resident population of New Zealand has increased 7.8 per cent in the last five years to 4,027,947. Of that number, 1,965,618 are men and 2,062,329 women – a gap of 96,711.
This amount of men can’t possibly be put down to phenomenon like women outliving men or other causes and so it’s entirely correct to surmise it’s because men are leaving nz.
Could it be because of any of the following do you think?………
with the top 3 constitutional positions in nz filled by women,
with girls in our state feminist schools outperforming boys accross the board and 10% more females than males entering Universities,
with nz men’s longevity being 5-6 years shorter than nz women’s,
with far less spent on Men’s health than Women’s health,
with men’s much greater rates of cancer, suicide, imprisonment, homelessness and drug addiction,
with our secret star chamber femily ‘courts’ defathering and bankrupting us,
with ex parte protection orders taken out against us without the judge even meeting us in person,
with DNA testing legal for nz cattle but not nz men,
with our hardearned cash being syphoned off for unaccounted for child ’support’,
with $250 kill-men kitchen knife blocks at number 5 on the shopping hit-list,
with an industrially maimed tetraplegic man getting a piitance ($30,000) lifetime ‘reparation’ from local government,
with Kill Bill and Kill Bill 2 both making the top ten viewed films in nz upon their release.
with “All men are bastards” ‘comedy’ books in major bookshop chains,
with man as wimp/neanderthal thug sitcoms,
with ‘Are men really necessary?’ magazine headlines,
with can’t sit next to children on an airplane rules,
with 1% male Kindergarten teachers and 14% male Primary school teachers,
with still no Men’s ministry,
with unilateral ‘no fault’ divorce and some 70% + women filing divorce in attempts to ‘trade up’,
with slap on the wrist with a wet busticket for female false accusers of DV,
with much harsher sentences accross the board for ALL the same crimes women commit,
with male only draft in times of war legislation still on the statute books,
with NIL reproductive rights for men,
with men by the thousand not even entered on birth certificates,
with 300,000 fatherless kids,
with femi-gagged media and press,
with a socialist-feminist government having been let loose for 6 unrelenting years ………..
by all means fill in your own blanks guys. You’re very welcome.
It might make a good T-shirt, poster or article.
I’m sure this list is far from exhaustive!!!
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Guys, you might want to think about escaping to somewhere other than this though…
this from the Ireland Courier Mail today …
Kill Bill indeed…….
My 22 year old tradesmen twin son’s and many of their mates are getting out,while they can, before they are accused of something from the hateful gender bias feminazi’s .My rugby club won’t have a male team next year. What a disgrace !!!
what will the next line up of female rugby team be called? lol
“This amount of men can’t possibly be put down to phenomenon like women outliving men or other causes”
96,000 is hardly a huge disparity. Not too convinced that it isn’t because women outlive men, especially since we have an ageing population that would skew the statistics. This argument would only be convincing if we had further stats for each age band (and also birth stats I guess).
Why is this called a “man drought” instead of a “woman surplus”?
If the figures were reversed, it would not be called a “woman drought” but a “man surplus”!
toni,
Do the numbers.
The national census is based on figures of living people.
4 million population.
Roughly 750,000 kids,
leaves 3.25 million adults.
Therefore if men and women were in equal numbers you’d expect 1.625 million of each.
Now take that figure of 1.625 million men and figure out how much 96,000 is of it in percentage terms.
That means in order for men to equal women numerically there would have to be 6% more men than there currently are!
Put another way there’d have to be a city roughly the population of Hamilton of men to change this disparity.
Please bear in mind also that in modern times this hasn’t been the case until very recently.
So it appears to be a distinct demographic trend.
Pathetic. Run away when the going gets tough – instead of fighting it out. On the otherhand, why stick around when you’re not wanted?
Stephen, you didn’t really respond to the issue I raised though. To substantiate your theory, you need to break the stats down and see what they say about particular age brackets.
Our population is aging so the proportion of the population is skewed towards old age. Men die younger – therefore, we would expect less men than women in the older age brackets where there is a higher proportion of the population. (There is also the factor that the older generations lost many men to the wars – leading to less men than women.)
The other issue is that there might well be less men than women in the 20s age bracket since men are slightly more likely to go on extended OEs than women – leading to less men residing in NZ than women.
The real proof of your theory would be if there were significantly less men than women in the age brackets 30-40 and 40-50 since these are the child-raising, family-oriented years.
toni,
I see.
nz needs 6% more men to have as many men as women, a trend that’s occured only recently.
This can be put down simply to men underachieving in longevity, dying in wars protecting women and children and taking off overseas to get away from nz.
That’s all tickety boo then.
Thanks.
I can now rest easy that nz’s in perfectly fine equitable shape. Yeah right bro.
I don’t think I’m the one in denial here and trying to convince with statistical parlour tricks………
Percy Shelly wrote 200 years ago after he was denied access/custody of his children by the Lord Chancellor:
I curse thee(Lord Chancellor ) by a parents’outraged love , by hopes long cherished and lately lost,by gentle feelings thou couldst never prove, by griefs which they seem nature never crossed……………..By all the happy in children’s growth, that undeveloped flower of budding years, sweetness and sadness interwoven both,source of the sweetest hopes and saddest fears, O wretched ye if ever any were, sadder than orphans , yet not fatherless.
It is sad that in 2006, there are so many fatherless children in New Zealand .
Toni,
You are asking a fair enough question and it can be easily answered. We all have access to these stats and they are broken down in genders and ethnic groups.
This is what I see and hear. The femenists in NZ wanted to give women more opportunities so they hit big the education system. There was a time when males were the ‘Dux” of the schools. They had the lead for the highest marks. The women complained about this and collected Government funding to get females up with males. At first they corrupted stats (as they are today) to show females were achieving through the funding which in turn gave more funding. I say they were corrupting the stats because many teachers starting question them amongst themselves but the movement was moving fast and no-one had time or understanding how ‘out of control this would become’ that there was no accountability.
Anyhow, in the end they produced an age group of women around 35 years old today that gained from this. The feminsits were sooo happy and encouraged these females when they were young to make the older feminists proud and ‘take the world on.’ But while they did this the boys also did this and relationships were not formed because of the competition. These 35 year old women have come back to NZ to family ready to raise their family. But there are no men to raise them with. So now we have a group (35 year old women, give and take a few years) who will be childless. They persued the women before them’s dream and lost the greatest part of being a woman.
Now in Australia, they have noticed this gap and are concerned about the lack of children being produced. So what are they doing? Paying $4,000 in lump sums if you have a child. But as idiot leaders, they like NZ are not keeping touch with the next generation who are having babies in their teens. Yes, we now have another age group that are wanting to live completely off the Government. I get alot of young single mothers telling me that they get more money from the DPB than they will ever earn. This word and behaviour gets around very fast.
This is what our Western Governments do. They balance the last generation
when they finally realise they need to. It is wrong leadership. Because the nest generation will produce a whole lot of other consequenses. Western civilisation looks short term while the east looks long term. The more we continue to be selfish and not commit to something long term the more damage we do.
Go to stats.govt.co.nz to find out for yourself the age groups and genders. If you can’t find it e-mail the info address and they will send them to you.
“I can now rest easy that nz’s in perfectly fine equitable shape. Yeah right bro.
I don’t think I’m the one in denial here and trying to convince with statistical parlour tricks………”
Oh for goodness sake. If I don’t wholeheartedly agree with your logic and point out that a 6% gender gap isn’t proof by itself that men are fleeing NZ, then I must be arguing that everything’s fine? What I’m pointing out is that holding a particular theory about men leaving NZ and then finding a stat that points to there being less men in NZ doesn’t prove a correlation. It suggests there could be a link but you have to rule out any other factors potentially contributing to that difference.
I thought it was jokers on this site that complained about making claims without sufficient evidence.
Toni – how many fathers and grand fathers do you know, that have left the planet via suicide in the last five years ??? – give me a email darling and I give you all the sordid details .I think I have sufficient evidence to shut you up .
Dads4justice,
You made me laugh from your comment. I enjoyed it. And I sure know that you have the research. I am so lucky to have firends on this site. You would not believe (oh, yes you would) of the amount of challenges I get. It plays a bit with the head but then we have this site and each other to come back to and we know that the most people are blind to reality.
We have to continue to go back to square one with people like Toni and walk them trhrough because someone walked us through. This really is like the ‘Matrix’ and I am sure you have seen the movie. Isn’t that just the hardest thing to take on. Yet as ‘New Zeal’ many people will not be brave enough to walk the walk in fear that this is too much to cope with.
But when we do find those that will walk through it, we will find the ‘rugged’, the ‘tough’, the ‘committed’ the leaders of a movement. It is all good.
Toni,
I gave the wrong site.
stats
JohnP,
I cannot edit comments I have made on someone elses post. I can only ‘view post’
Hi Julie,
Ch Ch CIB today tell me that they want to talk to me about comments made. Thanx Helengrad!!!!
Have a good Christmas – see you in where ever ??
It’s real fun waiting for arrest !!!!
It’s dsangerous to attack the maggot Clark !!!
RIP dad4justice !!!
Silly me I spelt dangerous wrong .Who gives a fuck- have a another wine d4j – Bang bang she’s all over one way or the other !!! I hate you Helen Clark !!!
Hi Dads4justice,
Are you kidding me? We need to talk. They are pussy’s. You can make them lose their jobs just over 3 e-mails and you can send the e-mails yourself under different names. You can set them up ‘big time.’ And without pay they will be stood down. Info comes from the wives themselves.
My dear brother, honor is yesterday. This society is out of touch.
Just because you are man does not mean you can’t destroy men.
Believe me, you really are untouchable. Forget about court proceedings for we worked that out ages ago
I recall some school years – a common chant from the girls was: “I can do anything better than you can” – a small distortion of the then advertising…
Hi dad4justice,
This is where I am an expert.
They are powerless more than you know.
3 official letters and they stand down. without pay. They will never come at you again. It’s a game. You can write the offical letters yourself under prank names. Believe me. The law is a joke.
Unless you are a first time player. But I can teach.
Sorry dads4justice,
I repeated myself for I didn’t know the first comment went through. But I do get pissed of at the amount of people that plead guilty when they shouldn’t. It only adds to false statistics.
Thank not for you email,
Great to hear you want to see me the week beginning 18th December, as it’s always good fun to know that a high profile criminal Detective Senior Sergeant from CIB wants a wee chat, the week before Christmas.
Shall I bring my heart medication and Bible, as no doubts you have another holiday organised at Her Majesty’s pleasure? Will I get to stay in the round cell again!
Please have the decency to indicate the likely chance of spending another Christmas remanded in prison? I feel extremely unwell having to write this email to you. I would like to tell of what’s left of my family before you grab me.I think I owe them that .
RIP Mum.
What did I ever do to deserve all this hostility from the judicial system? I thought I had put my criminal offending behind me, when I made the decision to change my ways for the sake of my family and society 11th September 1995.
Try and understand that my fragile health is suffering badly from the uncertainty of more criminal prosecution, ask my GP Doctor Hobbs – Leeston Medical Centre, or Doctor Ian Crozier from Canterbury Cardiology Department at Christchurch Hospital.
Whatever day you want to grab me, just let me know, as I have had enough and I will go peacefully .
P J Burns
Rolleston
John.Rae@police.govt.nz wrote: Thank you for your email.
My understanding is that the Family Court is the only body that can deal
with custody issues other than by way of agreement between the parties.
This last avenue seems unavailable to you and it leaves the Court. While I
know about these matters in the general public arena and have come across
the odd case I have had nothing to do with them. The custody issues are
outside the criminal arena and therefore not of professional interest. When
associated criminal acts take place however that brings the situation back
into my field. That is where I have had experience in the past.
I cannot offer you specific advice in your circumstances as I guess that
you have tried all the avenues available to you.
I have a file here to talk to you about and no doubt you can guess what
that is. I have not had an opportunity to get back to you since I left my
card there but perhaps during the week of 18 December I can see you and
deal with that matter?
John Rae
Detective Senior Sergeant
Southern CIB:Canterbury
DDI: 03 3441819
Fax: 03 349 1146
Cell: 027 221 5671
I love my daughters
What do I do ???
Yeah right – NZ soft cocks – I blow the beehive, as this makes arrest easy for the pigs who will put me in prison.
Good bye all – last comment ever .
toni,
It’s not a case of
That’s terrible belittling because by contrast to your claim it’s actually a case of holding MANY STATISTICS, not just one, and finding they point to a correlation.
In case you didn’t understand that it’s called Multifactoral analysis.
You gather statistics, then ask what might be creating the confluence of stats that emerge, rather than start with a theory then try finding if stats fit it.
What you get isn’t simply a theory either, you get a thesis.
For many, including yourself too perhaps it’s a very tough one to buy into as well, because it means facing some daunting aspects of living as a man in nz. And may involve having to live there in considerable discomfort with some newer truth.
Again here are the stats and facts which I’m satisfied form just such a confluence.
Dont get me wrong here. I’m not saying they’re the only reason that so many men are leaving nz. No doubt some are on extended OEs, visiting family elsewhere, etc.
They do point to an very powerful confluence for men to do so however, not one single point of which I notice you’ve tried to knock down -
with the top 3 constitutional positions in nz filled by women,
with girls in our state feminist schools outperforming boys accross the board.
with 10% more females than males entering Universities,
with nz men’s longevity being 5-6 years shorter than nz women’s,
with far less spent on Men’s health than Women’s health,
with men’s much greater rates of cancer, suicide, imprisonment, homelessness and drug addiction,
with our secret star chamber femily ‘courts’ defathering and bankrupting us,
with ex parte protection orders taken out against us without the judge even meeting us in person,
with DNA testing legal for nz cattle but not nz men,
with our hardearned cash being syphoned off for unaccounted for child ’support’.
with $250 kill-men kitchen knife blocks at number 5 on the shopping hit-list,
with an industrially maimed tetraplegic man getting a pittance ($30,000) lifetime ‘reparation’ from local government,
with Kill Bill and Kill Bill 2 both making the top ten viewed films in nz upon their release.
with “All men are bastards” ‘comedy’ books in major bookshop chains,
with man as wimp/neanderthal thug sitcoms,
with ‘Are men really necessary?’ magazine headlines,
with can’t sit next to children on an airplane rules,
with 1% male Kindergarten teachers and 14% male Primary school teachers,
with still no Men’s ministry,
with unilateral ‘no fault’ divorce and some 70% + women filing divorce in attempts to ‘trade up’,
with slap on the wrist with a wet busticket for female false accusers of DV,
with much harsher sentences accross the board for ALL the same crimes women commit,
with male only draft in times of war legislation still on the statute books,
with NIL reproductive rights for men,
with men by the thousand not even entered on birth certificates,
with 300,000 fatherless kids,
with femi-gagged media and press,
with a socialist-feminist government having been let loose for 6 unrelenting years ………
Dads4justice,
You have to step back and work all this out. You shouldn’t continue to help others while you are the one who needs help. You need a long term plan, like ‘where do you see yourself’ in the future. That’s just your dream. Then you need to find out how you can get there and if you can’t get there, then find another dream. Your girls will find you themselves when they are old enough. The unfairness will not change, accept that it is ‘a brick wall’ that cannot be climbed, destroyed, dug under and you cannot go around it.
This movement needs you as you are a valuable asset. But you can help no-one locked up. DON’T get locked up and locked up and locked up. That system is made to break you even in 10 years time. Direct your masculinity some other way, direct your thoughts and feelings some other way.
The walls will come crumbling down around you when the time is right.
Actually, this reminds me of a conversation I had with Jim. We figured that when you fight the system for yourself, you bang your head against the brick walls but when you fight the system for someone else the brick walls seem breakable and things start to happen.
It’s not as easy as that but I hope you get my drift.
Surrender you lot to God and fight for men’s rights arm in arm with your brothers. BELIEVE in something bigger than yourself.
Isn’t that how men fought real life wars of combat.
Nelson Mandella spent over 25 years in prison. It didn’t break him…..it gave him the strength to be South Africa’s Prime Minister.
And all along he was also believing in something bigger than himself too.
Stephen,
Gee, that’s a hard one to use as a worthwhile one in some respects as he also saw the end result without caring much of the destruction to get there.
Isn’t that what America has done decade after decade to the eastern countries. They walk in to get what they want and do not give a toss about the destruction they cause or leave behind.
Anyhow, I am glad you agree with
The strange thing is that Nelson Mandella was not broken after 25 years. That is absolutely amazing. He is a remarkable man for that and for all the good he did.
And now I wonder whether we should see Helen Clark as something similar. Are we now wieghing good against bad?
Alexander Solzienitzkin didn’t break either after decades banged away in Soviet gulags.
Yes, Julie, it’s true Mandela was part of the an organization one wing of which waged guerilla warfare against the white apartheit regime.
But I’m not sure that he himeslf advocated violence of any sort.
Anyway the only point I wished to make was that prison doesn’t break some men, in fact if anything it may well strengthen their resolve. And that’s such a personal call to make, I’m not advocating anyone go there either.
I’ve worked in some men’s prisons in nz and I can tell you for a fact they’re filthy shitholes. I’ve seen more hygenic dog kennels. But they’re only for men after all eh?
Thailand has prisons better than Mt Eden for starters.
Is it still being used for remand?
I can’t shake the image of having to step through huge rain puddles of water on the way to interview some terrified little punk who was being held on remand there.
AND THE PUDDLES WERE ON THE INSIDE!!!
EVERYTHNG ON THE INSIDE WAS COVERED IN YEARS OF GRIME such that I was loath to touch anything incase I got some nasty bug.
The guards were a grim looking lot too.
The one woman guard I saw there was a Fijian woman. I kid ye not she must have been 6foot 6 at least and built like a brick shithouse.
There are some things about nz I’ll never forget.
OK, Stephen, prisons are not mean’t to break you. They are mean’t to deter you. Is that better? And yes, some men cannot be deter-ed as they are extremely deter-mined.
Haven’t seen inside a prison myself (female priviledge, I suppose) but your description of Mt. Eden is horrible.
I am pretty sure (90%) Mt. Eden prison is still for remand or used while waiting to go elsewhere.
Hmmm, now I wonder what work were you doing in the prisons.
Here are a couple of interesting articles:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3895249a11,00.html
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3895248a11,00.html
Dad4justice,
I am appalled to read about your dilemma. Julie is so right. If you can pull back do so, because you are far more important to your cause, your family and yourself on the outside.
The crazy thing is…I wish I was in your place instead of you. I have crossed the line several times now, but the Family Court aren’t going to send the CIB after me, because they know that my issues will be fought out in a real court, with real lawyers and real judges, and it will backfire on them. They can’t risk that, and so I will probably be able to get away with a lot more before they act. I think even the CIB to a degree will want to avoid me. On that fateful day in September 2004 when they hunted my son and I down like dogs, they used untrue information in an attempt to turn my family against me. They told my mother, sister and brother that I had sworn at Judge Anne McAloon…you know… the bitch from hell (go on….sue me). I didn’t swear at the Judge at all, and I had a witness with me when I questioned the registrar about it.
So why did the CIB tell my family that I swore at the judge? Why did they not have a CYF worker with them when they grabbed my sleeping 15 month old baby son from behind and dragged him from his father? Why didn’t they have a child car seat with them; they knew they were looking for a baby, and had all day to arrange one? Why didn’t they return my child car seat to me, forcing me to buy another? (You guys owe me $250 if you’re reading this) Why weren’t they interested in the evidence I showed them of my X partner’s immigration fraud, including multiple versions of her daughter’s birth certificate? How many immigrants do you know off that have got away with possessing many versions of birth certificates and admitting in Court (ok Family Court) that most of the statements in their immigration affidavits were lies? The Family Court was clearly aiding and abetting a person who had admitted to Immigration fraud. Perhaps the Family Court is even complicit in the offending.
I later learned that it was my X partner’s barrister, Mary Williamson, that told the CIB detective that I swore at the judge. Oh wow….a lawyer lying to damage the character of the opposing party? That lawyer was doing everything she could to destroy my character, and prevent me seeing my son let alone get custody of him. I have caught her out in many lies and deceptions. I believe that the CIB detectives should have been questioning the lawyer about her defamatory statements, misleading the courts and perverting and obstructing justice. (May Williamson…I challenge you to sue me)
I showed the fraudulent birth certificates to police and CIB 4 times, to Immigration investigators, to politicians and to the media, and when questioned about her immigration fraud in the Family Court, she admitted it. But it seems she is being treated more like someone on a secret witness protection scheme, than a serial fraudster and child abductor. She previously married a convicted paedophile to get NZ citizenship, and left him days after she got her passport….how convenient! She lives a life of protected and DPB funded luxury because while she is before the Family Court and has our son in her care, she is untouchable by any other agency. Perhaps that is why the Family Court has refused to hear my custody application which was filed in February 2004. They are stalling as long as possible, believing that eventually I will choose to give up, or I will be forced to give up, or I will kill myself, the mother, her extremely nasty barrister or a judge, or do something else to get myself locked up, or simply leave the country.
Unfortunately for them all, they never realised how much my son and I mean to each other, how peaceful and patient I am, and how long and hard I would fight to simply share in my son’s care. The mother swore in her first affidavit that we both cared for our son full time, and that she didn’t know who the better parent was. On that basis our son’s care should have been shared right from the day she left, but she and the courts had other ideas, which totally ignored our son’s best interests or his relationship with me. If only they read my affidavits they would have learnt that I was our son’s primary caregiver before his mother met another man and made a claim on my home (three years and one week after we met…how convenient!). Oh…that’s right…..my lawyer, Liz Jamieson of Norris Ward McKinnon didn’t serve my affidavits on my X’s lawyer…who turned out to be a previous associate of hers….how convenient! (I challenge you, Liz Jamieson or Norris Ward McKinnon to sue me).
If this is sounding familiar, it is because it is familiar. This is the way that the family Court operates, and how our children’s lives are dealt with. The CIB and police don’t want to be involved because they know that under scrutiny none of the evidence stacks up (if there is evidence), and that’s not how they want to work. The truth is that the CIB are victims in this just like us. Their hands are tied, and regardless of what is coming out about injustices within the Family Court, they have a job to do.
Our only hope is the numbers game. Unless we can unite with a common voice and have a well thought out strategy, we and our children are fucked…sorry if I offended anyone.
It is high time that we planned national action, not little protests of 20 or so people but hundreds, even thousands. I believe our best tactic is to organise a large gathering, hikoi or similar. I personally would love to work in with anyone who is prepared to help organise such action. In numbers, perhaps we can demand a Men’s Commission, an enquiry into the Family Court, an enquiry into the legality of Child Support, and demand Equal Shared Parenting in law. We know we have political, anecdotal, specialist and medical support, and we know that elections are looming. We need to start thinking out a long term strategy now, and dad4justice, we need you on the outside. Think about it. I do have some ideas about how to get huge support numbers, if anyone is interested.
That “bitch from hell” is a very close relative of mine, a significant mentor in my life and a wonderful woman who has more grace and intelligence than you could ever wish for. Be careful before you get personal.
Xsryder,
For the first time I have been part of the FC lawyer’s friendship putting a child in danger through helping a female. The child was being upducted more so by the father’s fiance than the father and her lawyer wanted her to sign papers to OK it. When she questioned everything as a concerned parent would, her lawyer said straight to her face, “Get a grip, I am not going to jeapordies my working relationship with the father’s lawyer.” Thank God for Hooker because they have taken over and now the father with finace will not be abducting the child and heading overseas. This case is a bit more complicated than a simple abduction for there involves another country stop over, the child to be in care of a stranger so they are not seen to have been a apart. It was a well thought out and planned abduction. This female is OK with shared parenting
but was being shafted not by the FC but by the lawyers. He refused to do any counselling which is the way the FC works and was able to put all this together because of the lawyers, not the law.
Also there are women here in NZ who will blantently admit that they are here because NZ protects them from allowing the father to be apart of the child’s life.
I personally know of 2 cases where Indian women have married NZ men and applied for residencey. Both were knocked back so they filed DV orders. One of these guys is a friend of mine (gullible, but not a violent bone in his body towards females) who was locked up for four months over this even though he wasn’t even in the house when he supposedly threatened her with a knife. After 4 months the judge found him innocent and her guilty and discharged the whole case.
These women are using and abusing the system. And why, because of women’s rights in NZ around DV. If a women from overseas calls DV on a man in NZ, they get residency fast as. NZ is here to protect them.
On a good note though,
Just very recently been in this discussion. You need to contact this man.
Andrew
And there are other groups down South. You are right xsryder, for we all need to unite. And so many groups agree.
The last two posts on this site are words of wisdom and given me the inspiration to write . I have thought hard and long about posting any further comments, but what the hell as I believe in love, justice, truth and integrity .
I will start with saying that I agree that CIB’s hands are firmly tied when accusations of little substance escalate from the dysfunctional, hateful, sinister and gender bias Family Court into matters of criminality that result in unfair and unjustified prosecutions in criminal jurisdiction . It is hard for a non- custodial parent to see the Family Court as a Court of justice as no evidence is required to destroy the dignity and soul of a alienated parent who is falsely accused. The unchecked wrongful behaviour of one parent against the other , for whatever reason can destroy the bonds of love that once existed between parent and child . No women ever gets charged for perjury as a result of this often malicious behaviour . It is little wonder that vengeful and vindictive women from all over the world come to kiwiland, because they can painfully and viciously nail the ex to a cross without accountability or consequence!!
In my case, High Court Judges and CIB , including acting area Police Commanders sympathise with my predicament, however there is little they can do to change things . Politicians are not interested as they ALL are selfish , despicable, inept, cretins fit for the offal pit . So we find ourselves in a position much like being in a powerful rip without a life jacket slowly but surely waiting to pulled down to the bottom of the ocean floor through no fault of our own .
What can we do ? Yes we are attracting a huge audience at present and I am grateful for this site as people of both genders are slowly coming together for a reason as we all realise this madness and unnecessary persecution for so many good parents is creating havoc for so many sad and bitter children .A old girl friend of mine was stabbed to death by her 16 year old daughter a couple weeks back, its so sad. We all know the Government is in the business of mass producing fractured families while the PC geek John Key waffles rhetoric about global farting and Cullen sits a huge bag of cash , so he buy votes all at the next election .
So what are we to do ??? revolt like Fiji ( only kidding coppers ) or do we step up our campaign and look to each other for guidance in the organisation of a major event in the new year that will force the hand of our unscrupulous politicians to change the law .
History is simply a piece of paper covered with print ; the main thing is still to make history – Otto Von Bismark, German statesman.
Dad4justice,
I am glad to see you come back and the answer to your question, “What do we need to do?” is…. wait for it…..wait for it…
“You’re already doing it”
Since preparing for this documentary which may not even happen, I have met up with some awesome people and you have a very special person in your area that you need to meet up with. (besides Wendy)
coordinator@fatherandchild.org.nz
Sorry to hear about your friend. I saw it on the news.
Hi Julie,
The “Andrew” link in your previous post doesn’t work, so could you please re-post or email me off site. I’m dying to see what “Andrew” has to say. The suspense is killing me.
Men are now paying for thousands of years of claimed superiority over women and this generation is picking up the tab. Wrong time – wrong place I’m afraid. The pendulum will swing back to it’s correct place eventually but it won’t be in our lifetime. What’s most galling is that two wrongs don’t make a right, and fairplay has gone out the window in some form of twisted retribution against men and their forebears who got it wrong. One would hope that fairness and justice for all would be a basic right but it’s not when it comes to the separation of a relationship. What has become abundantly clear is that woman can be just as brutal, unforgiving, devious and unfair as any man that walked the planet, and, frighteningly, even possibly more so. As the saying goes, women and cats may do as they please and men and dogs just better get used to it.
I am facing false allegation from women whom I sponsered to come to Nz. I found out she is already married to someone back in INDIA and my marriage was a sham, so I got my married annuled because of her previous marriage now I want some help to find how to sue her for defamation and perjury lying. I want to do all this myself, because I found the lawyeres too feminist.
Please help
It’s the same thing in every country not only NZ, i guess men are just avoiding the census , for some reason. They must have gone somewhere ! Agree about all the other things though!
Deepak, i would recommend you contact a mens group who will have legal specialists
. You can read up on legal precedents on http://www.courts.govt.nz
You have said that you have two court cases going.
The first is more important and requies resolution if you are going to successfuly pursue the second. If you lose you would have to appeal in order to rechallenge before taking her for defamation or perjury.
So you MUST, concentrate on your defence first. Before you think about Court and whether or not in the end you decide to use a lawyer, you need to take stock of where you are. Obviously you believe you are right.
The object of the Court is to find out why. So why? What law makes you right. If your marriage has already been annulled then your case is already substantive and you should be able to reuse the evidence to support the principles of your case. The woman you are battling already has a history against you that is riddled with deceipt. This is useful.
Was your activity sponsoring her to come to NZ, completely legal? If yes, then this is your primary defence. If yes, because you have the paperwork to prove your innocence and the marriage being annulled is also a legal entity, then you are in a position of some strength. If there are allegations of domestic violence against you then you will need to separate out these out from the issue of immigration and marriage.
If there are allegations of domestic violence against you then you need to go back to the beginning of this letter. Start again: Are you right? Why if yes?
At this point when you have answered these questions, whether or not you have researched the law from NZ Legislation you are bound to get the paperwork all in order for the courts. You need to go to Family Court Rules 2002 and read through the various things you can do and how you are required to do them. You have to remember that lawyers hire people to do a lot of this filing for them so it can be tedious and must be done properly. At this point consider whether or not you are individually suited to this task. Are you a tidy person? Do you keep files in order? Can you read legislation?
We haven’t even started to look at the issue of feminisation yet so you can use this point in proceedings to measure your strengths. Then think, do I work? How much time do I need to put in? Can I afford to put in this time?
The, will the Court be sympathetic to my self litigation – if they are feminised and I am challenging from this view.
Answer these questions for yourself. Then if you decide to progress email me on fatherscoalition1@yahoo.co.nz telling me a bit more and where you are located.
All the best.
Benjamin Easton
(of a) fatherscoalition.