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		<title>By: Benjamin Easton</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-127416</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Easton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point by Shashi is provocative and I am well familiar with a case where a NZ law firm on the evidence I saw, without knowing the final results of the case heavily capitalised off property of transnational laws.

Swashy's comments are also fair, as the courts all over the world are damaging the relationships of associative compassion and protection between fathers and their children. In some countries women argue that the rights of the male over the female on parental laws are reversed so there is some complexity to the problems. Most obviously it should be fair to say that no nation has effectively figured out any balance to claim equality to  the parental conundrum in marriage as well as after separation. More likely to the point and if to exercise a rule that could cross cultures is that any direct access to fiscal exlpoitation (legal or otherwise) of the circumstances surrounding parenting by one parent (or a state) should be heavily reviewed, constitutionally and if proved directly abandoned. Thereafter such a collapse it would be immediately obvious that the only facility left standing to assist the individuals disaffected by teh circumstances would be teh community. If the community is in poor health then there is no survival. But if the community is in good health from the outset of the problem then the domestic adversity in any part of its imaturity or maturity will mitigate the final impact of the expanded problem no matter its voracity. The problem then becomes direct. The communities across the world need to be better equipped to help people stay together. It is unlikely that this will happen on its own because there, in any economic environment, is too much to lose if such a market in human trade could collapse. So there is only one component that could be supported to have a greater importance over "money". There is only one. The child.

So, the question is is do dads across the world want to protect the young - their young and their children's children's young or do they in fact want to maintain the demands of exploitation over human markets just so to provide to their particular interests - whatever those may be.

Sorry to rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point by Shashi is provocative and I am well familiar with a case where a NZ law firm on the evidence I saw, without knowing the final results of the case heavily capitalised off property of transnational laws.</p>
<p>Swashy&#8217;s comments are also fair, as the courts all over the world are damaging the relationships of associative compassion and protection between fathers and their children. In some countries women argue that the rights of the male over the female on parental laws are reversed so there is some complexity to the problems. Most obviously it should be fair to say that no nation has effectively figured out any balance to claim equality to  the parental conundrum in marriage as well as after separation. More likely to the point and if to exercise a rule that could cross cultures is that any direct access to fiscal exlpoitation (legal or otherwise) of the circumstances surrounding parenting by one parent (or a state) should be heavily reviewed, constitutionally and if proved directly abandoned. Thereafter such a collapse it would be immediately obvious that the only facility left standing to assist the individuals disaffected by teh circumstances would be teh community. If the community is in poor health then there is no survival. But if the community is in good health from the outset of the problem then the domestic adversity in any part of its imaturity or maturity will mitigate the final impact of the expanded problem no matter its voracity. The problem then becomes direct. The communities across the world need to be better equipped to help people stay together. It is unlikely that this will happen on its own because there, in any economic environment, is too much to lose if such a market in human trade could collapse. So there is only one component that could be supported to have a greater importance over &#8220;money&#8221;. There is only one. The child.</p>
<p>So, the question is is do dads across the world want to protect the young - their young and their children&#8217;s children&#8217;s young or do they in fact want to maintain the demands of exploitation over human markets just so to provide to their particular interests - whatever those may be.</p>
<p>Sorry to rant.</p>
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		<title>By: swashy</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-127409</link>
		<dc:creator>swashy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some affirmative action is required to change laws, Fathers4Justice type activities, nothing will change if we are "gooddogs", individuals will always be helpless against the state, but even small actions by a significant group WILL change the status quo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some affirmative action is required to change laws, Fathers4Justice type activities, nothing will change if we are &#8220;gooddogs&#8221;, individuals will always be helpless against the state, but even small actions by a significant group WILL change the status quo</p>
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		<title>By: shashi</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-127402</link>
		<dc:creator>shashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ant dowry and Domestic Violence laws are used more often than not for immigration, monetary and property rights by unscrupulous women in India and this is happening in massive scale--one in five house hold in Delhi(same size as whole of NZ)! 
The National Human Rights Commission (NHRC)-India today suggested before the Delhi High Court that police change its way of investigating dowry related cases to ensure that no "innocent" is lodged in jail.
Recommending that "police needs to review its routine in conducting investigations in dowry cases to ensure that it is not misused," theNHRC submitted a report before a Division Bench of Justices.
Appearing for NHRC several people, including small children and very old people, have been lodged in jail in dowry related cases, which is one of the reasons for overcrowding in the prison.

Group like Shakti are known to provoke South Indian ladies to file DV cases in NZ AND THEREBY assuring her with RESIDENCY, CUSTODY and PROPERTY Rights at the cost of TAX PAYERS!!No need to say that this unscrupulous woman obtained spouse visa on fraud and group SHAKTI was aware of it! This lady is hiding now in dark corner in India with two KIWI children and managed to get custody of children from corrupt Indian lower court-ex party based on fake testimonials given by SHAKTI group. Authorities need to investigate these fake and fraudulent claims supported by SHAKTI! 

Beware of SHAKTI group and its hidden agendas.Author is willing to share common LIVE platform with a single official form SHAKTI to prove his claims if it is to be shown LIVE/Unedited across NZ!!

www.majebal.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ant dowry and Domestic Violence laws are used more often than not for immigration, monetary and property rights by unscrupulous women in India and this is happening in massive scale&#8211;one in five house hold in Delhi(same size as whole of NZ)!<br />
The National Human Rights Commission (NHRC)-India today suggested before the Delhi High Court that police change its way of investigating dowry related cases to ensure that no &#8220;innocent&#8221; is lodged in jail.<br />
Recommending that &#8220;police needs to review its routine in conducting investigations in dowry cases to ensure that it is not misused,&#8221; theNHRC submitted a report before a Division Bench of Justices.<br />
Appearing for NHRC several people, including small children and very old people, have been lodged in jail in dowry related cases, which is one of the reasons for overcrowding in the prison.</p>
<p>Group like Shakti are known to provoke South Indian ladies to file DV cases in NZ AND THEREBY assuring her with RESIDENCY, CUSTODY and PROPERTY Rights at the cost of TAX PAYERS!!No need to say that this unscrupulous woman obtained spouse visa on fraud and group SHAKTI was aware of it! This lady is hiding now in dark corner in India with two KIWI children and managed to get custody of children from corrupt Indian lower court-ex party based on fake testimonials given by SHAKTI group. Authorities need to investigate these fake and fraudulent claims supported by SHAKTI! </p>
<p>Beware of SHAKTI group and its hidden agendas.Author is willing to share common LIVE platform with a single official form SHAKTI to prove his claims if it is to be shown LIVE/Unedited across NZ!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.majebal.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.majebal.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-105921</link>
		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi StarR, 

Your post about Bayswater interested me and the Salvation Army. I was going to ask you what it was like there now as I have not been back for some time. I thought NZ was better because it was smaller so stayed but the reason my ex and I came here was because of the massive union strike back in the early 90's.

Anyhow, I used to live in WA also but that is a whole other story. 

As for siding, well, everyone one knows whose side I am on and they have no problem with it. Infact, I am the lucky one. Women are much more difficult, moan more, expect way more and can't even figure out themselves what they want. But men just get on with it, are respectful, grateful and so on and so on and so on. 

I might be niave and honest but I am no way silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi StarR, </p>
<p>Your post about Bayswater interested me and the Salvation Army. I was going to ask you what it was like there now as I have not been back for some time. I thought NZ was better because it was smaller so stayed but the reason my ex and I came here was because of the massive union strike back in the early 90&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I used to live in WA also but that is a whole other story. </p>
<p>As for siding, well, everyone one knows whose side I am on and they have no problem with it. Infact, I am the lucky one. Women are much more difficult, moan more, expect way more and can&#8217;t even figure out themselves what they want. But men just get on with it, are respectful, grateful and so on and so on and so on. </p>
<p>I might be niave and honest but I am no way silly.</p>
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		<title>By: starR</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-105798</link>
		<dc:creator>starR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Julie
In WA at the mo.
What perked your interest?.. from my postings I mean.
and to answer” is the situation any more different today?”; yes it is even more feminised and people are scared to even be seen to siding any changes which may remotely seem to challenge previous thoughts. If the silence is at the expense of a large group of sufferers so what as long as they are seen to be conforming and playing “good dog”, that’s what matters to them. At the mo we have a kiwi society which instead of encouraging moving forward and expanding our frontiers, they would rather hold back those who even try. A lot of bullcrap bureaucracy if you ask me and not enough of “getting things done” attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Julie<br />
In WA at the mo.<br />
What perked your interest?.. from my postings I mean.<br />
and to answer” is the situation any more different today?”; yes it is even more feminised and people are scared to even be seen to siding any changes which may remotely seem to challenge previous thoughts. If the silence is at the expense of a large group of sufferers so what as long as they are seen to be conforming and playing “good dog”, that’s what matters to them. At the mo we have a kiwi society which instead of encouraging moving forward and expanding our frontiers, they would rather hold back those who even try. A lot of bullcrap bureaucracy if you ask me and not enough of “getting things done” attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-105624</link>
		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scrap, 

So basically, it is about putting pressure on the officials?

Saw Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings) on TV this morning saying that he gets fear during the making of movies and that it is positive. So I do believe today is different from yesterday and that something can be done. Just don't want a son in a body bag. 

But, It is not about one or two people but a whole global network. 

And there are so many good people in NZ already fighting with no financial pay-off. 

This can be done!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scrap, </p>
<p>So basically, it is about putting pressure on the officials?</p>
<p>Saw Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings) on TV this morning saying that he gets fear during the making of movies and that it is positive. So I do believe today is different from yesterday and that something can be done. Just don&#8217;t want a son in a body bag. </p>
<p>But, It is not about one or two people but a whole global network. </p>
<p>And there are so many good people in NZ already fighting with no financial pay-off. </p>
<p>This can be done!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scrap_The_CSA</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-105618</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrap_The_CSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie,

What happens before a Bill hits the house is the important part!

All goverment departments have a policy development section that exists to push their view to law. Thats what you may have heard of as "officals".

For example Tax Changes to the Child Tax Act that have recently been seen took over 6 years to get to the House in the form of legislation.

Regard

Scrap

Regards

Scrap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie,</p>
<p>What happens before a Bill hits the house is the important part!</p>
<p>All goverment departments have a policy development section that exists to push their view to law. Thats what you may have heard of as &#8220;officals&#8221;.</p>
<p>For example Tax Changes to the Child Tax Act that have recently been seen took over 6 years to get to the House in the form of legislation.</p>
<p>Regard</p>
<p>Scrap</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Scrap</p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-105583</link>
		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>starR, 

I didn't know that about you. But tell me... is today any differnet from yesterday when you were trying? I am no heroine myself but just trying to give back to society what it has given to me (without all this PC so I was helped alot) but should i just forget about it. I have no probelm to tell NZ it is fucked up and take my boys to Aussie. I mean we both know that there is so much more opportunity in Aussie. 

By the way do you live in the Eastern Suburbs of Melbourne. (I am not wanting anything from you just interested from one of your posts)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>starR, </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that about you. But tell me&#8230; is today any differnet from yesterday when you were trying? I am no heroine myself but just trying to give back to society what it has given to me (without all this PC so I was helped alot) but should i just forget about it. I have no probelm to tell NZ it is fucked up and take my boys to Aussie. I mean we both know that there is so much more opportunity in Aussie. </p>
<p>By the way do you live in the Eastern Suburbs of Melbourne. (I am not wanting anything from you just interested from one of your posts)</p>
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		<title>By: starR</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-105580</link>
		<dc:creator>starR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>been challenging these types of organisations for a very long time. until people with a willingness to adopt change in positions of responsibility change only then  will progress be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>been challenging these types of organisations for a very long time. until people with a willingness to adopt change in positions of responsibility change only then  will progress be made.</p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/paternity-justice/#comment-105579</link>
		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>starR, 

That was a perfect answer... Yes, I can see that. But do you think it is time to challenge that????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>starR, </p>
<p>That was a perfect answer&#8230; Yes, I can see that. But do you think it is time to challenge that????</p>
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