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	<title>Comments on: Sue Bradford Steeling Children</title>
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		<title>By: Bevan Berg</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/sue-bradford-stealing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-54467</link>
		<dc:creator>Bevan Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 10:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question of how we might treat children can be divided into three systems. 
The two that are being proposed are 

A)	Let the state legislate against what is inappropriate.
B)	Let the state through the family court decide what is appropriate.

Or as our current legislation enforces, even though it may not be obvious to some, let the family prevail, and if in some cases the family should fail, let the state provide what help is necessary.  

Did it ever occur to you that it may be to the advantage of the socialist state to see CYPS fail.

Think about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of how we might treat children can be divided into three systems.<br />
The two that are being proposed are </p>
<p>A)	Let the state legislate against what is inappropriate.<br />
B)	Let the state through the family court decide what is appropriate.</p>
<p>Or as our current legislation enforces, even though it may not be obvious to some, let the family prevail, and if in some cases the family should fail, let the state provide what help is necessary.  </p>
<p>Did it ever occur to you that it may be to the advantage of the socialist state to see CYPS fail.</p>
<p>Think about it?</p>
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		<title>By: PaulM</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/sue-bradford-stealing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-54333</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 00:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d understand better where opponents of Bradford&#039;s bill are coming from if they put sound alternative proposals forward for protecting children. Because the fact is that children are being beaten and mistreated, by parents as well as other so-called caregivers. And in the past the beaters and mistreaters have been protected by section 59.
So how else are children to be protected from adults who have managed to convince themselves of the rightness of their actions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d understand better where opponents of Bradford&#8217;s bill are coming from if they put sound alternative proposals forward for protecting children. Because the fact is that children are being beaten and mistreated, by parents as well as other so-called caregivers. And in the past the beaters and mistreaters have been protected by section 59.<br />
So how else are children to be protected from adults who have managed to convince themselves of the rightness of their actions?</p>
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		<title>By: cwb</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/sue-bradford-stealing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-54324</link>
		<dc:creator>cwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 00:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>taking into account the rights and duties of his or her parents,

Has  any  father/parent  had  their  rights  taken  into  consideration  by  the  &quot;FhoneY  CourT ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taking into account the rights and duties of his or her parents,</p>
<p>Has  any  father/parent  had  their  rights  taken  into  consideration  by  the  &#8220;FhoneY  CourT ????</p>
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		<title>By: cwb</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2006/sue-bradford-stealing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-54320</link>
		<dc:creator>cwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 23:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Convention on the Rights of the Child
U.N. General Assembly       Document A/RES/44/25 (12 December 1989)
Article 3
1. In all actions concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration. 
2. States Parties undertake to ensure the child such protection and care as is necessary for his or her well-being, taking into account the rights and duties of his or her parents, legal guardians, or other individuals legally responsible for him or her, and, to this end, shall take all appropriate legislative and administrative measures. 
3. States Parties shall ensure that the institutions, services and facilities responsible for the care or protection of children shall conform with the standards established by competent authorities, particularly in the areas of safety, health, in the number and suitability of their staff, as well as competent supervision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Convention on the Rights of the Child<br />
U.N. General Assembly       Document A/RES/44/25 (12 December 1989)<br />
Article 3<br />
1. In all actions concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration.<br />
2. States Parties undertake to ensure the child such protection and care as is necessary for his or her well-being, taking into account the rights and duties of his or her parents, legal guardians, or other individuals legally responsible for him or her, and, to this end, shall take all appropriate legislative and administrative measures.<br />
3. States Parties shall ensure that the institutions, services and facilities responsible for the care or protection of children shall conform with the standards established by competent authorities, particularly in the areas of safety, health, in the number and suitability of their staff, as well as competent supervision.</p>
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