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	<title>Comments on: Coalition Against Nanny State&#8217;s Anti-Smacking Law - March on Parliment To Protest Anti-Smacking Bill</title>
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		<title>By: Lance Landall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance Landall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim,
Anybody is fee to use my poems [which is stated on my website]. So long as they don't alter my poems, or make mistakes if typing them out. So feel free to use them in any way you wish. That's what they're there for.
Regards, 
Lance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim,<br />
Anybody is fee to use my poems [which is stated on my website]. So long as they don&#8217;t alter my poems, or make mistakes if typing them out. So feel free to use them in any way you wish. That&#8217;s what they&#8217;re there for.<br />
Regards,<br />
Lance</p>
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		<title>By: JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lance,

May I use your Poem in my Poems by Parents link on my website

http://www.handsonequalparent.org.nz/69741.html 

Onward - Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance,</p>
<p>May I use your Poem in my Poems by Parents link on my website</p>
<p><a href="http://www.handsonequalparent.org.nz/69741.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.handsonequalparent.org.nz/69741.html</a> </p>
<p>Onward - Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Landall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance Landall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,
You might like to take a look at two poems I've written that are pro-smacking. I've included the direct links.

http://www.poetrywithamission.co.nz/poems9ah%20-%20A%20Time%20And%20Place.htm

http://www.poetrywithamission.co.nz/poems9aq%20-%20And%20So%20It%20Goes.htm

Regards, 
Lance Landall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,<br />
You might like to take a look at two poems I&#8217;ve written that are pro-smacking. I&#8217;ve included the direct links.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.poetrywithamission.co.nz/poems9ah%20-%20A%20Time%20And%20Place.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.poetrywithamission.co.nz/poems9ah%20-%20A%20Time%20And%20Place.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.poetrywithamission.co.nz/poems9aq%20-%20And%20So%20It%20Goes.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.poetrywithamission.co.nz/poems9aq%20-%20And%20So%20It%20Goes.htm</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Lance Landall.</p>
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		<title>By: JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wellington - Coalition Against Nanny State's Anti-Smacking Law - March on Parliment To Protest - War-4-Kids WAGON at your service

YO!

•	Wellington
•	Coalition Against Nanny State's Anti-Smacking Law
•	March on Parliment To Protest
•	 War-4-Kids WAGON at your service
•	(LINK) or Go http://www.handsonequalparent.org.nz/15261.html 

REALITY CHECK

•	However two and half tanks there – one/two in Wellington and there abouts and two and a half back to North Shore city ($500-00) and perhaps $100-0 for Javan and I to eat along the way is way beyond my **Single Persons Invalids Benefit** from which I get NOTHING to feed-Father and **Equal** Parent Javan.

•	I budget $40-0 per week for petrol for Javan and my needs and use every drop of it. That $40-0 needs to be in the tank when we return to last for the next week. Registration due 1st week April $184-00

•	I pledge the overhead only

•	Others must fund the rest or we simply can’t go

•	Either paying bums on seats or SPONSORSHIP

TRIP

•	1600-/-4 O’clock
•	Leaving 15B Roseberry Ave Birkenhead, Monday after school
•	Staying Taupo – Sanson – Wellington – Sanson – Home Late Thursday
•	Quite happy to pick-up 
•	MacDonald’s Greenlane
•	Wendy’s Otara
•	Towns on Hwy’s 1-2-27-1 from Tirua – Sanson-Foxton-Etc
•	You will need to arrange bedding and billets.

Onward – Jim
```````````````````````
Hi again Mitch,
 
I am the protest organiser of the protest that was planned and has now been cancelled outside former Principal Family Court Judge Mahoney's residence.
 
I cancelled the protest under the principle of good faith where it is the expectation of a coalition of fathers that the recently announced review of the justice and courts systems will include the injustices that have become embedded into the hstory if not the applications presently employed by the Family Court.
 
I am hoping to discuss with you the opportunity for either me to speak at the march, or if a more moderate view is sought Allan Harvey from the Union of Fathers. The Union of Fathers are still unconfirmed if they will actively support teh march, although some of their memebership will obviously be there. Allan is a good speaker, he is a teacher who would be succinct and clear. I am a good speaker. I too would be succinct and clear. I am happy to present a copy of the plan of any speech I would give before giving it.
 
I ask because I believe what we have to offer will lend strenght to your initiative. Jim Bailey may be coming down from Auckland with a group but it is too early to know. Money is his restraint, where he cannot afford petrol. In my view, if you have any access to supporting funds then his pressence is worth every penny as an investment.
 
I'm in Wellington from Tuesday midday. I'm in parliament from 1.30pm
 
0273902169
 
regards,
Ben Easton.


Mitch Lees  wrote:
Hi Guys, 
 
I had an elderly lady in Tauranga ring me this morning. She was enquiring about the possiblity of getting a lift to the Wellington March. Can you help her? 
 
Cheers
 
Mitch 

 
On 3/21/07, Benjamin Easton  wrote: 
Jim,
 
I'll try and organise some support from down here to get you down.
 
Ben.
 
Jim Bailey  wrote:
If I can raise the funds by taking 4/5 to Wellington I am tempted to take Javan and the War-4-Kids WAGON 
Wellington peaceful protest march details 
MARCH ON PARLIAMENT
Against Anti Smacking Bill
DO YOU VALUE THE RIGHT TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN THE WAY YOU CHOOSE, NOW OR IN THE FUTURE? 
Then do something about it BEFORE it's too late!
Join us in a PEACEFUL protest
Wednesday 28th March 2007
Beginning at Civic Square at 12pm then
advancing to Parliament
*This march will be peaceful, and children will be present. If anyone turns violent, we will be helping the police cart you off to jail. 
 
For more information, see
http://smackingback.blogspot.com/ or e-mail
antiantismacking@gmail.com
Mitch Lees
Representative
Phone: 027 243 1676
Coalition Against Nanny State's Anti-Smacking Law - March on Parliment To Protest Anti-Smacking Bill
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0703/S00226.htm 
March on Parliment To Protest Anti-Smacking Bill
Monday, 19 March 2007, 12:39 pm
Press Release: Coalition Against Nanny State's Anti-Smacking Law
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Anti Smacking Bill
Public March on Parliament To Protest Anti-Smacking Bill
"Government of the people, by the people, for the people."
Abraham Lincoln once used these golden words to describe the purpose of politicians in a free society. Yet with polls now showing over 80% of New Zealanders in opposition to Sue Bradford's proposed anti-smacking bill, it is clear that our current government no longer understands why they have been elected. In accordance with another cornerstone of a free society, freedom of speech and freedom to dissent, Coalition Against Nanny State's Anti-Smacking Law (CANSAL) will be staging a peaceful march on Parliament to remind our politicians just whom they are elected to serve. 
Sue Bradford's bill, proposing to remove the right of parents to use a smack as a form of correction for children, will turn loving parents into criminals. The bill strikes at the very foundations of the family structure. Will parents who choose to smack be `ratted out,' Soviet-style, by teachers or neighbours? The proposed law would compel the police to get involved in cases where they have no place - wasting valuable time and resources ï¿½ and give them no discretion, as they themselves have said, as to whether they use common sense in deciding whether to arrest. Indeed, being that one of the jobs of MPs when passing laws is to make them unambiguous, it is outrageous that the police are now going to be put in an even more uncertain position. This will subject the police to more and more public anger ï¿½ hardly what they need. 
I, like many other New Zealanders, was smacked as a child when I deserved it. To think that my parents could have been taken away from me for their actions in correcting me is incomprehensible. What we have now is government of the people, by the Politically Correct, for the Politically Correct. The bureaucrats have stolen our cash, they have interfered with our property, and now they are trying to invade our homes. It's time to push back. The present law allowing "reasonable force" should be left intact. 
The protest march will start at Civic Square at noon on Wednesday 28 March.
ENDS
Coalition Against Nanny State's Anti-Smacking Law
http://smackingback.blogspot.com/
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Onward in Coalition ï¿½ Jim Bailey ï¿½ JimBWarrior
 
Founder - www.HandsOnEqualParent.org.nz
And - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HandsOnEqualParent-News</description>
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<p>YO!</p>
<p>•	Wellington<br />
•	Coalition Against Nanny State&#8217;s Anti-Smacking Law<br />
•	March on Parliment To Protest<br />
•	 War-4-Kids WAGON at your service<br />
•	(LINK) or Go <a href="http://www.handsonequalparent.org.nz/15261.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.handsonequalparent.org.nz/15261.html</a> </p>
<p>REALITY CHECK</p>
<p>•	However two and half tanks there – one/two in Wellington and there abouts and two and a half back to North Shore city ($500-00) and perhaps $100-0 for Javan and I to eat along the way is way beyond my **Single Persons Invalids Benefit** from which I get NOTHING to feed-Father and **Equal** Parent Javan.</p>
<p>•	I budget $40-0 per week for petrol for Javan and my needs and use every drop of it. That $40-0 needs to be in the tank when we return to last for the next week. Registration due 1st week April $184-00</p>
<p>•	I pledge the overhead only</p>
<p>•	Others must fund the rest or we simply can’t go</p>
<p>•	Either paying bums on seats or SPONSORSHIP</p>
<p>TRIP</p>
<p>•	1600-/-4 O’clock<br />
•	Leaving 15B Roseberry Ave Birkenhead, Monday after school<br />
•	Staying Taupo – Sanson – Wellington – Sanson – Home Late Thursday<br />
•	Quite happy to pick-up<br />
•	MacDonald’s Greenlane<br />
•	Wendy’s Otara<br />
•	Towns on Hwy’s 1-2-27-1 from Tirua – Sanson-Foxton-Etc<br />
•	You will need to arrange bedding and billets.</p>
<p>Onward – Jim<br />
&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;`<br />
Hi again Mitch,</p>
<p>I am the protest organiser of the protest that was planned and has now been cancelled outside former Principal Family Court Judge Mahoney&#8217;s residence.</p>
<p>I cancelled the protest under the principle of good faith where it is the expectation of a coalition of fathers that the recently announced review of the justice and courts systems will include the injustices that have become embedded into the hstory if not the applications presently employed by the Family Court.</p>
<p>I am hoping to discuss with you the opportunity for either me to speak at the march, or if a more moderate view is sought Allan Harvey from the Union of Fathers. The Union of Fathers are still unconfirmed if they will actively support teh march, although some of their memebership will obviously be there. Allan is a good speaker, he is a teacher who would be succinct and clear. I am a good speaker. I too would be succinct and clear. I am happy to present a copy of the plan of any speech I would give before giving it.</p>
<p>I ask because I believe what we have to offer will lend strenght to your initiative. Jim Bailey may be coming down from Auckland with a group but it is too early to know. Money is his restraint, where he cannot afford petrol. In my view, if you have any access to supporting funds then his pressence is worth every penny as an investment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in Wellington from Tuesday midday. I&#8217;m in parliament from 1.30pm</p>
<p>0273902169</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Ben Easton.</p>
<p>Mitch Lees  wrote:<br />
Hi Guys, </p>
<p>I had an elderly lady in Tauranga ring me this morning. She was enquiring about the possiblity of getting a lift to the Wellington March. Can you help her? </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Mitch </p>
<p>On 3/21/07, Benjamin Easton  wrote:<br />
Jim,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try and organise some support from down here to get you down.</p>
<p>Ben.</p>
<p>Jim Bailey  wrote:<br />
If I can raise the funds by taking 4/5 to Wellington I am tempted to take Javan and the War-4-Kids WAGON<br />
Wellington peaceful protest march details<br />
MARCH ON PARLIAMENT<br />
Against Anti Smacking Bill<br />
DO YOU VALUE THE RIGHT TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN THE WAY YOU CHOOSE, NOW OR IN THE FUTURE?<br />
Then do something about it BEFORE it&#8217;s too late!<br />
Join us in a PEACEFUL protest<br />
Wednesday 28th March 2007<br />
Beginning at Civic Square at 12pm then<br />
advancing to Parliament<br />
*This march will be peaceful, and children will be present. If anyone turns violent, we will be helping the police cart you off to jail. </p>
<p>For more information, see<br />
<a href="http://smackingback.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://smackingback.blogspot.com/</a> or e-mail<br />
<a href="mailto:antiantismacking@gmail.com">antiantismacking@gmail.com</a><br />
Mitch Lees<br />
Representative<br />
Phone: 027 243 1676<br />
Coalition Against Nanny State&#8217;s Anti-Smacking Law - March on Parliment To Protest Anti-Smacking Bill<br />
<a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0703/S00226.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0703/S00226.htm</a><br />
March on Parliment To Protest Anti-Smacking Bill<br />
Monday, 19 March 2007, 12:39 pm<br />
Press Release: Coalition Against Nanny State&#8217;s Anti-Smacking Law<br />
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE<br />
Anti Smacking Bill<br />
Public March on Parliament To Protest Anti-Smacking Bill<br />
&#8220;Government of the people, by the people, for the people.&#8221;<br />
Abraham Lincoln once used these golden words to describe the purpose of politicians in a free society. Yet with polls now showing over 80% of New Zealanders in opposition to Sue Bradford&#8217;s proposed anti-smacking bill, it is clear that our current government no longer understands why they have been elected. In accordance with another cornerstone of a free society, freedom of speech and freedom to dissent, Coalition Against Nanny State&#8217;s Anti-Smacking Law (CANSAL) will be staging a peaceful march on Parliament to remind our politicians just whom they are elected to serve.<br />
Sue Bradford&#8217;s bill, proposing to remove the right of parents to use a smack as a form of correction for children, will turn loving parents into criminals. The bill strikes at the very foundations of the family structure. Will parents who choose to smack be `ratted out,&#8217; Soviet-style, by teachers or neighbours? The proposed law would compel the police to get involved in cases where they have no place - wasting valuable time and resources ï¿½ and give them no discretion, as they themselves have said, as to whether they use common sense in deciding whether to arrest. Indeed, being that one of the jobs of MPs when passing laws is to make them unambiguous, it is outrageous that the police are now going to be put in an even more uncertain position. This will subject the police to more and more public anger ï¿½ hardly what they need.<br />
I, like many other New Zealanders, was smacked as a child when I deserved it. To think that my parents could have been taken away from me for their actions in correcting me is incomprehensible. What we have now is government of the people, by the Politically Correct, for the Politically Correct. The bureaucrats have stolen our cash, they have interfered with our property, and now they are trying to invade our homes. It&#8217;s time to push back. The present law allowing &#8220;reasonable force&#8221; should be left intact.<br />
The protest march will start at Civic Square at noon on Wednesday 28 March.<br />
ENDS<br />
Coalition Against Nanny State&#8217;s Anti-Smacking Law<br />
<a href="http://smackingback.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://smackingback.blogspot.com/</a><br />
&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;<br />
Onward in Coalition ï¿½ Jim Bailey ï¿½ JimBWarrior</p>
<p>Founder - <a href="http://www.HandsOnEqualParent.org.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.HandsOnEqualParent.org.nz</a><br />
And - <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HandsOnEqualParent-News" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HandsOnEqualParent-News</a></p>
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		<title>By: JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on Smacking - Strengthen the MARCH on PARLIAMENT Wednesday 28th - War-4-Kids WAGON will go if funded - I can pay overhead only

Source;

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4002105a10.html 

Urgency plan for smacking bill
By TRACY WATKINS - The Dominion Post &#124; Friday, 23 March 2007

Outraged opponents of controversial anti-smacking legislation are rallying for a final push as the Government seeks support to get the law through under urgency. 

That will increase tensions over what has been a bitterly debated bill as pro- and anti-smacking groups prepare to march on Parliament on Wednesday, when the debate resumes. 

Green MP Sue Bradford - whose bill outlawing physical punishment looks certain to have the numbers to become law - confirmed yesterday that the Government was seeking support to force Parliament into urgency so it could be passed next week. 

She said she was delighted with any move to pass the bill quickly. "It would be great to finish it." 
But National leader John Key said it was showing "utter contempt" for the democratic process. 

"This is a deeply cynical abuse of power as Labour tries to clear the decks of this controversial issue." 
Prime Minister Helen Clark has had to defend herself against claims that some Labour MPs are being railroaded into supporting the bill. 

She has dismissed calls for Labour to let its MPs vote according to their consciences, saying similar legislation in the past - such as the abolition of corporal punishment - was not treated as a conscience issue. 

The legislation was facing months of delays as opponents used filibuster tactics to stall the law change for as long as possible. 

They were hoping that, by delaying it, they could put Labour MPs who opposed the legislation under increasing pressure from conservative constituents. 

If the bid for urgency is successful, MPs will have to sit into the night and next day till the final vote is taken. 
But the Government will need the Maori Party and at least two NZ First MPs to agree to urgency and both parties say they will not decide on their support till Tuesday. 

NZ First MPs Doug Woolerton and Brian Donnelly both support the Bradford bill. 

Ms Bradford said that, without urgency, the debate was set to drag on for months. 

That would create a legislative log jam. 

"I really don't see the problem: With a bill like this, which has been through the full select committee process, there were thousands of submissions, the bill's been out for nearly two years, so there's been a massive public and media debate."</description>
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<p>Source;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4002105a10.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/4002105a10.html</a> </p>
<p>Urgency plan for smacking bill<br />
By TRACY WATKINS - The Dominion Post | Friday, 23 March 2007</p>
<p>Outraged opponents of controversial anti-smacking legislation are rallying for a final push as the Government seeks support to get the law through under urgency. </p>
<p>That will increase tensions over what has been a bitterly debated bill as pro- and anti-smacking groups prepare to march on Parliament on Wednesday, when the debate resumes. </p>
<p>Green MP Sue Bradford - whose bill outlawing physical punishment looks certain to have the numbers to become law - confirmed yesterday that the Government was seeking support to force Parliament into urgency so it could be passed next week. </p>
<p>She said she was delighted with any move to pass the bill quickly. &#8220;It would be great to finish it.&#8221;<br />
But National leader John Key said it was showing &#8220;utter contempt&#8221; for the democratic process. </p>
<p>&#8220;This is a deeply cynical abuse of power as Labour tries to clear the decks of this controversial issue.&#8221;<br />
Prime Minister Helen Clark has had to defend herself against claims that some Labour MPs are being railroaded into supporting the bill. </p>
<p>She has dismissed calls for Labour to let its MPs vote according to their consciences, saying similar legislation in the past - such as the abolition of corporal punishment - was not treated as a conscience issue. </p>
<p>The legislation was facing months of delays as opponents used filibuster tactics to stall the law change for as long as possible. </p>
<p>They were hoping that, by delaying it, they could put Labour MPs who opposed the legislation under increasing pressure from conservative constituents. </p>
<p>If the bid for urgency is successful, MPs will have to sit into the night and next day till the final vote is taken.<br />
But the Government will need the Maori Party and at least two NZ First MPs to agree to urgency and both parties say they will not decide on their support till Tuesday. </p>
<p>NZ First MPs Doug Woolerton and Brian Donnelly both support the Bradford bill. </p>
<p>Ms Bradford said that, without urgency, the debate was set to drag on for months. </p>
<p>That would create a legislative log jam. </p>
<p>&#8220;I really don&#8217;t see the problem: With a bill like this, which has been through the full select committee process, there were thousands of submissions, the bill&#8217;s been out for nearly two years, so there&#8217;s been a massive public and media debate.&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator>JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent</dc:creator>
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		<description>Strenghten the MARCH on PARLIAMENT

The War-4-Kids WAGON goes Monday after School if petrol is funded - I can pay overhead only

If you want this to happen to you and your Kids don't do anything 

Source;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkWcwJyagW4  

Onward - Jim

www.HandsOnEqualParent.org.nz</description>
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<p>The War-4-Kids WAGON goes Monday after School if petrol is funded - I can pay overhead only</p>
<p>If you want this to happen to you and your Kids don&#8217;t do anything </p>
<p>Source;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkWcwJyagW4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkWcwJyagW4</a>  </p>
<p>Onward - Jim</p>
<p><a href="http://www.HandsOnEqualParent.org.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.HandsOnEqualParent.org.nz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in from Britain where the nanny state appears even more binkers than in lil' ol' nz.......

Is your baby playing with its toes yet? If not the government wants to know why


Babies will be assessed on their gurgling, babbling and toe-playing abilities when they are a few months old under a legally enforced national curriculum for children from birth to five published by the government yesterday.

Every nursery, childminder and reception class in Britain will have to monitor children's progress towards a set of 69 government-set "early learning goals", recording them against more than 500 development milestones as they go.

Shhhhhh. 
Don't tell Comrade Bradfordski.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in from Britain where the nanny state appears even more binkers than in lil&#8217; ol&#8217; nz&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Is your baby playing with its toes yet? If not the government wants to know why</p>
<p>Babies will be assessed on their gurgling, babbling and toe-playing abilities when they are a few months old under a legally enforced national curriculum for children from birth to five published by the government yesterday.</p>
<p>Every nursery, childminder and reception class in Britain will have to monitor children&#8217;s progress towards a set of 69 government-set &#8220;early learning goals&#8221;, recording them against more than 500 development milestones as they go.</p>
<p>Shhhhhh.<br />
Don&#8217;t tell Comrade Bradfordski.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrap_The_CSA</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/coalition-against-nanny-states-anti-smacking-law-march-on-parliment-to-protest-anti-smacking-bill/#comment-116149</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrap_The_CSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What good does it do that proper parenting can’t achieve? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That would be proper parenting according to who? The 80% of parents who oppose Brafords Folly or the 20 percenters like you?

The reality is that the State is intruding in the disciplining of children by parents. Unless there is abuse the State has no place to intrude.

A smack is not abuse and making parents into criminals if they smack a child is the thin edge of the wedge.

Next the State will be telling you what you can feed kids, what religious instruction they can recieve....

The road to facisim is built upon laws like this. 

Scrap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What good does it do that proper parenting can’t achieve? </p></blockquote>
<p>That would be proper parenting according to who? The 80% of parents who oppose Brafords Folly or the 20 percenters like you?</p>
<p>The reality is that the State is intruding in the disciplining of children by parents. Unless there is abuse the State has no place to intrude.</p>
<p>A smack is not abuse and making parents into criminals if they smack a child is the thin edge of the wedge.</p>
<p>Next the State will be telling you what you can feed kids, what religious instruction they can recieve&#8230;.</p>
<p>The road to facisim is built upon laws like this. </p>
<p>Scrap</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim's making a useful point about what you can expect from the pro-ban minority. They will attempt to connect "fathers" and "beating children" for all its worth.

We have to leave the fact we're men right out of this. The issue is popular opinion being denied, for vague legislation that promotes unproven benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim&#8217;s making a useful point about what you can expect from the pro-ban minority. They will attempt to connect &#8220;fathers&#8221; and &#8220;beating children&#8221; for all its worth.</p>
<p>We have to leave the fact we&#8217;re men right out of this. The issue is popular opinion being denied, for vague legislation that promotes unproven benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you xsryder. I endorse your comments fully. I have no faith at all that the legal system will provide justice or reasonable outcomes for those who will be charged and I agree, it is men who overwhelmingly are going to be prosecuted even though we know that most physical abuse is perpetrated by women. I totally support the biological family as well but like so many men, have been shafted in court by lying lawyers. The children suffer most at a time when the family is already dividing its assets. My ten cents worth tho is this. If your children are using drugs, its tool late to hit them. People should look at the examples they have set themselves. I know its all screwed up these days as my children now live much of the time with the x and her partner endorses the use of drugs and has really liberal attitudes about most things such as alchol use and casual sex so our influence is somewhat watered down. Its high time for more men to get active, fight for what is right and not allow the feminist bigots to be the only ones who comment on what it means to be male or female</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you xsryder. I endorse your comments fully. I have no faith at all that the legal system will provide justice or reasonable outcomes for those who will be charged and I agree, it is men who overwhelmingly are going to be prosecuted even though we know that most physical abuse is perpetrated by women. I totally support the biological family as well but like so many men, have been shafted in court by lying lawyers. The children suffer most at a time when the family is already dividing its assets. My ten cents worth tho is this. If your children are using drugs, its tool late to hit them. People should look at the examples they have set themselves. I know its all screwed up these days as my children now live much of the time with the x and her partner endorses the use of drugs and has really liberal attitudes about most things such as alchol use and casual sex so our influence is somewhat watered down. Its high time for more men to get active, fight for what is right and not allow the feminist bigots to be the only ones who comment on what it means to be male or female</p>
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