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	<description>- promoting a clearer understanding of men's experience -</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Case</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122730</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I should have added that by exposing the idea of a 'Man Respect Index' to a global audience, the chances of someone with huge resources seeing it and taking to it are increased (eg the CEO of a large company who just lost half his fortune in a messy divorce). A big company with a well-resourced IT dept could put something together fairly quickly. (I'm not counting on this happening, but best not to rule it out either).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should have added that by exposing the idea of a &#8216;Man Respect Index&#8217; to a global audience, the chances of someone with huge resources seeing it and taking to it are increased (eg the CEO of a large company who just lost half his fortune in a messy divorce). A big company with a well-resourced IT dept could put something together fairly quickly. (I&#8217;m not counting on this happening, but best not to rule it out either).</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Case</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122725</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

I defined the idea of a 'Man Respect Index' on the MensActivism Wiki because I think it has global application. It also means there's a much larger talent pool to appeal to for help.

To this end, I've already made postings referring to the Wiki, so any further postings here will be missed by other interested parties.

Could you please update the Wiki regarding your management ideas, and provide links to your group there.

Thanks for coming on board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>I defined the idea of a &#8216;Man Respect Index&#8217; on the MensActivism Wiki because I think it has global application. It also means there&#8217;s a much larger talent pool to appeal to for help.</p>
<p>To this end, I&#8217;ve already made postings referring to the Wiki, so any further postings here will be missed by other interested parties.</p>
<p>Could you please update the Wiki regarding your management ideas, and provide links to your group there.</p>
<p>Thanks for coming on board.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122721</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has become a very positive thread. Clearly there are valuable resources out there. 
Rob, you have good questions and have made good observations. The answer to all of these things it to set the objectives first and then determine what is required to meet the objectives. This is going to be impossible to progress in this thread. 
The wiki is a good idea but we need to act locally and the wiki seems to be global to me.

I have created a new group so that we can discuss these ideas and get some project up and running here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fatherlessNZ/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has become a very positive thread. Clearly there are valuable resources out there.<br />
Rob, you have good questions and have made good observations. The answer to all of these things it to set the objectives first and then determine what is required to meet the objectives. This is going to be impossible to progress in this thread.<br />
The wiki is a good idea but we need to act locally and the wiki seems to be global to me.</p>
<p>I have created a new group so that we can discuss these ideas and get some project up and running here:<br />
<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fatherlessNZ/" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fatherlessNZ/</a></p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122717</link>
		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome Tony, 

Fathers Day is a good date for needing musicians. We were thinking of doing something out west on that day in the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Tony, </p>
<p>Fathers Day is a good date for needing musicians. We were thinking of doing something out west on that day in the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122712</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well what a boost to have seen a flyer of your meetings and to have Julie direct me to this website. As she said 'I am not alone'. It seems to me from exerience I have had with the media that doing something provocative like a picket of a company that is running an ad that demigrates man/men thereby getting media coverage will put some consentrated prime time focus on the issue. I am a pro musician and can supply high quality, high profile musicians for events that don't clash with existing commitments. 
Blessings ans good will to all of you.
Tony Hopkins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well what a boost to have seen a flyer of your meetings and to have Julie direct me to this website. As she said &#8216;I am not alone&#8217;. It seems to me from exerience I have had with the media that doing something provocative like a picket of a company that is running an ad that demigrates man/men thereby getting media coverage will put some consentrated prime time focus on the issue. I am a pro musician and can supply high quality, high profile musicians for events that don&#8217;t clash with existing commitments.<br />
Blessings ans good will to all of you.<br />
Tony Hopkins</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Case</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122706</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

That's a terrific offer. I had thought the technical side would be the toughest - any suggestions on what development software to use? (are you familiar with open-source?).

Benjamin, your offer is really appreciated.
At this stage, money isn't an issue. I was hoping it wouldn't need to be. The most pressing demand is to find someone who would be willing to host the site (www.manrespect.com?) for free. 

Then install the development software and the means for volunteers to access it over the net, and we're nearly there.

The key thing though is that we don't go to a lot of work, only to find no-one visits the site, and consequently no-one takes any notice of it. It needs profile. Someone out there in the marketing/promotional world may have some good ideas here, or maybe some simple common sense suggestions could be equally useful. 

I've posted the project on the MensActivism Wiki, so pass this link to anyone you think may be interested:
http://wiki.mensactivism.org/index.php/Man_Respect_Index%28MRI%29


http://wiki.mensactivism.org/index.php/Man_Respect_Index%28MRI%29</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a terrific offer. I had thought the technical side would be the toughest - any suggestions on what development software to use? (are you familiar with open-source?).</p>
<p>Benjamin, your offer is really appreciated.<br />
At this stage, money isn&#8217;t an issue. I was hoping it wouldn&#8217;t need to be. The most pressing demand is to find someone who would be willing to host the site (www.manrespect.com?) for free. </p>
<p>Then install the development software and the means for volunteers to access it over the net, and we&#8217;re nearly there.</p>
<p>The key thing though is that we don&#8217;t go to a lot of work, only to find no-one visits the site, and consequently no-one takes any notice of it. It needs profile. Someone out there in the marketing/promotional world may have some good ideas here, or maybe some simple common sense suggestions could be equally useful. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted the project on the MensActivism Wiki, so pass this link to anyone you think may be interested:<br />
<a href="http://wiki.mensactivism.org/index.php/Man_Respect_Index%28MRI%29" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.mensactivism.org/index.php/Man_Respect_Index%28MRI%29</a></p>
<p><a href="http://wiki.mensactivism.org/index.php/Man_Respect_Index%28MRI%29" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.mensactivism.org/index.php/Man_Respect_Index%28MRI%29</a></p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Easton</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122692</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Easton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

I live off $40 a week after rent, child support and electricity: as paid by the government, as requested by me, funded to challenge the injustice for as long as I possibly can. If, to get your initiative working you need financial backing I will pledge $10 to support you activating Dave's skills. My first initiative against the injustice was to attempt to compile men's stories in book form, which I titled Parting Clouds. Dave did the website for me and worked efficiently to the projects needs. It was me who found it difficult to provide to the extreme demands of the project and not anyone else. Fortunately for teh project it was completed by Jim Bailey compiling stories and having them filed on his website. He too was involved in this initial group - so the initiative was realised. I imagine Dave's story is up there and hope so, because if there is a story to tell of judicial devaluation by negligence of the masculine necessities for a son or daughter or a child to love, it can be capitalised from Dave's tale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>I live off $40 a week after rent, child support and electricity: as paid by the government, as requested by me, funded to challenge the injustice for as long as I possibly can. If, to get your initiative working you need financial backing I will pledge $10 to support you activating Dave&#8217;s skills. My first initiative against the injustice was to attempt to compile men&#8217;s stories in book form, which I titled Parting Clouds. Dave did the website for me and worked efficiently to the projects needs. It was me who found it difficult to provide to the extreme demands of the project and not anyone else. Fortunately for teh project it was completed by Jim Bailey compiling stories and having them filed on his website. He too was involved in this initial group - so the initiative was realised. I imagine Dave&#8217;s story is up there and hope so, because if there is a story to tell of judicial devaluation by negligence of the masculine necessities for a son or daughter or a child to love, it can be capitalised from Dave&#8217;s tale.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122666</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I have over 20 years IT experience including web development. I can provide not just the technical services but also set up the management processes these things require to be successful. I have no money but I am happy to provide services. I am particularly interested in projects related to the FC. Feel free to contact me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I have over 20 years IT experience including web development. I can provide not just the technical services but also set up the management processes these things require to be successful. I have no money but I am happy to provide services. I am particularly interested in projects related to the FC. Feel free to contact me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Case</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122589</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the website that would highlight anti-male messages in the media, I was thinking of something along the lines of a 'Man-Respect Index'. A number from 1 to 10, 1 being atrociously anti-male, 5 being neutral, and 10 being well male friendly.

Visitors to the site can nominate any company, newspaper columnist, TV show, News program and readers, politician, personality.

Initially all nominations would have a Man-Respect Index of 5. A 'thumbs up/down' image would appear against each nominee, and visitors could click thumbs up for approval, or thumbs down for bad men-dissers. The Man Respect Index would vary accordingly.

These are just ideas. At this stage, I'm trawling for other ideas and suggestions about where a server host could be found, what existing software could be used, what features could be added to the web-site, how it could be promoted so that it gets noticed.

Anything ventured is welcome, and I don't intend to rope anyone into this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the website that would highlight anti-male messages in the media, I was thinking of something along the lines of a &#8216;Man-Respect Index&#8217;. A number from 1 to 10, 1 being atrociously anti-male, 5 being neutral, and 10 being well male friendly.</p>
<p>Visitors to the site can nominate any company, newspaper columnist, TV show, News program and readers, politician, personality.</p>
<p>Initially all nominations would have a Man-Respect Index of 5. A &#8216;thumbs up/down&#8217; image would appear against each nominee, and visitors could click thumbs up for approval, or thumbs down for bad men-dissers. The Man Respect Index would vary accordingly.</p>
<p>These are just ideas. At this stage, I&#8217;m trawling for other ideas and suggestions about where a server host could be found, what existing software could be used, what features could be added to the web-site, how it could be promoted so that it gets noticed.</p>
<p>Anything ventured is welcome, and I don&#8217;t intend to rope anyone into this.</p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2007/utilising-our-resources/#comment-122586</link>
		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that our project is coming together. We now have the printing being down alot cheaper. 

New cost of printing is:

16 cents per booklet @ 4 cents a side for photocopying

Total cost of booklets is $320.
We have just saved $240.00 from another MRA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that our project is coming together. We now have the printing being down alot cheaper. </p>
<p>New cost of printing is:</p>
<p>16 cents per booklet @ 4 cents a side for photocopying</p>
<p>Total cost of booklets is $320.<br />
We have just saved $240.00 from another MRA</p>
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