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	<title>Comments on: Academics and Lawyers attack changes to Aussie Child Support System</title>
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		<title>By: MurrayBacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>MurrayBacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If any group has enjoyed an advantage, whether fair or not, they may feel aggrieved if they then lose it. So what? Thus the existence of moaning doesn't make a strong case for anything.  It takes informed arguments.

Our Australian cousins have through the last 15 years, carried out a reasonable amount of research into the costs of bringing up children, in a two adult household and in a single adult household.  They have looked at the situation of the parent with the larger amount of care and the situation of the parent with the lesser amount of care.
New Zealand, by comparison, has just copied other countries legislation, with "adjustments" to the numbers, based on ideological "needs", putting a wet finger in the air and precious little intelligent judgement.
Unfortunately, it is not surprising that their child support and Family Court systems are moving forward, albeit rather slowly, where NZ seems to be drifting faster backward.
It is not that NZ doesn't have the funds to devote towards research, it is more that ideology drives our changes, not decisions based on valid and competent research.  
In any case, NZ would do better to simply assume that the Australian research would be reasonably relevant to NZ conditions, than to follow the ideology of the wayward leaders that we have chosen.
I would guess that through the last 15 years, the Australian research on costs of raising children has probably cost about $750,000.  We spend more than this, on TV advertisements overtly asking DV to stop, perhaps covertly Labour election advertising?  
We have probably broken more than $750,000 worth of beer bottles accidentally in the last 15 years and had to throw them out?
Our Australian cousins generously give away this research on the internet.  Yet we NZers are unable to pick it up and use it, even at no cost? 
What is our problem?
Behaviour and expenditures nonresident parents during contact visits Murray Woods
Costs of children and equivalence scales matthew gray
Costs of Children Estimated in australian families in 2005-06 NATSEM Canberra
Costs of Children Updated Using Australian budget standards Paul Henman 2004
PRP03 Estimates of the costs of children in Australian families 1993 94
PRP07 updating australian budget standards costs of children estimates Paul Henman

For all of the econometric study of costs of children, there is a huge gap, in researching what the impact of what the "child support" Act is telling our children?
Issues such as earners being driven out of NZ, when IRD make assessments of continuous earnings, when the period has included periods of unemployment. The resulting penalties can quickly become totally unpayable. What does the father absence communicate to these children?
Where the "child support" payment allows a non-working mother to appear to the children, to be more financially successful.  Under the hood, it might be that the father has savings and the beneficiary lives hand to mouth, with a good looking lifestyle.  What does this communicate to these children?

The Australian moves toward child support being based on realistic costs for caring for children and taking into consideration the costs in both parents households, is clearly the fair approach.  

In any case, both parents should be able to take part in decisions about the care of the children.  This was guaranteed by the old Guardianship Act and the present Care of Children Act - it is just that the "judges" don't honour the law.
Cheers, MurrayBacon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any group has enjoyed an advantage, whether fair or not, they may feel aggrieved if they then lose it. So what? Thus the existence of moaning doesn&#8217;t make a strong case for anything.  It takes informed arguments.</p>
<p>Our Australian cousins have through the last 15 years, carried out a reasonable amount of research into the costs of bringing up children, in a two adult household and in a single adult household.  They have looked at the situation of the parent with the larger amount of care and the situation of the parent with the lesser amount of care.<br />
New Zealand, by comparison, has just copied other countries legislation, with &#8220;adjustments&#8221; to the numbers, based on ideological &#8220;needs&#8221;, putting a wet finger in the air and precious little intelligent judgement.<br />
Unfortunately, it is not surprising that their child support and Family Court systems are moving forward, albeit rather slowly, where NZ seems to be drifting faster backward.<br />
It is not that NZ doesn&#8217;t have the funds to devote towards research, it is more that ideology drives our changes, not decisions based on valid and competent research.<br />
In any case, NZ would do better to simply assume that the Australian research would be reasonably relevant to NZ conditions, than to follow the ideology of the wayward leaders that we have chosen.<br />
I would guess that through the last 15 years, the Australian research on costs of raising children has probably cost about $750,000.  We spend more than this, on TV advertisements overtly asking DV to stop, perhaps covertly Labour election advertising?<br />
We have probably broken more than $750,000 worth of beer bottles accidentally in the last 15 years and had to throw them out?<br />
Our Australian cousins generously give away this research on the internet.  Yet we NZers are unable to pick it up and use it, even at no cost?<br />
What is our problem?<br />
Behaviour and expenditures nonresident parents during contact visits Murray Woods<br />
Costs of children and equivalence scales matthew gray<br />
Costs of Children Estimated in australian families in 2005-06 NATSEM Canberra<br />
Costs of Children Updated Using Australian budget standards Paul Henman 2004<br />
PRP03 Estimates of the costs of children in Australian families 1993 94<br />
PRP07 updating australian budget standards costs of children estimates Paul Henman</p>
<p>For all of the econometric study of costs of children, there is a huge gap, in researching what the impact of what the &#8220;child support&#8221; Act is telling our children?<br />
Issues such as earners being driven out of NZ, when IRD make assessments of continuous earnings, when the period has included periods of unemployment. The resulting penalties can quickly become totally unpayable. What does the father absence communicate to these children?<br />
Where the &#8220;child support&#8221; payment allows a non-working mother to appear to the children, to be more financially successful.  Under the hood, it might be that the father has savings and the beneficiary lives hand to mouth, with a good looking lifestyle.  What does this communicate to these children?</p>
<p>The Australian moves toward child support being based on realistic costs for caring for children and taking into consideration the costs in both parents households, is clearly the fair approach.  </p>
<p>In any case, both parents should be able to take part in decisions about the care of the children.  This was guaranteed by the old Guardianship Act and the present Care of Children Act - it is just that the &#8220;judges&#8221; don&#8217;t honour the law.<br />
Cheers, MurrayBacon.</p>
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