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	<title>Comments on: Anti-Smacking Law Tragic Failure as Child Abuse Death Rate Continues</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/anti-smacking-law-tragic-failure-as-child-abuse-death-rate-continues/#comment-160241</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 07:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a recent immigrant to NZ, I'm screaming 'get me out of here!' This country is unbelievable.

I am totally against any form of child abuse. I think anyone in their right mind would be. However, only in NZ(and probably the US) have i heard of so many innocent families being falsely accused of child abuse. My family is currently going through it and it makes me doubt every single report we have on child abuse in the media. I have learnt that the police are fully capable of making completely false statements in the media and the family will not stand a chance in the public's eyes. As for court, I've just learnt that that is just an excuse for the Crown to waste resources and people's time. There is no justice in NZ. 

Do DSAC doctors actually have blood running through their veins? That bunch of doctors is any innocent parent's worst nightmare.

It seems so easy for a doctor with a couple of abbreviations behind their name to think they can talk whatever crap they want and completely destroy an innocent families lives.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a recent immigrant to NZ, I&#8217;m screaming &#8216;get me out of here!&#8217; This country is unbelievable.</p>
<p>I am totally against any form of child abuse. I think anyone in their right mind would be. However, only in NZ(and probably the US) have i heard of so many innocent families being falsely accused of child abuse. My family is currently going through it and it makes me doubt every single report we have on child abuse in the media. I have learnt that the police are fully capable of making completely false statements in the media and the family will not stand a chance in the public&#8217;s eyes. As for court, I&#8217;ve just learnt that that is just an excuse for the Crown to waste resources and people&#8217;s time. There is no justice in NZ. </p>
<p>Do DSAC doctors actually have blood running through their veins? That bunch of doctors is any innocent parent&#8217;s worst nightmare.</p>
<p>It seems so easy for a doctor with a couple of abbreviations behind their name to think they can talk whatever crap they want and completely destroy an innocent families lives.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/anti-smacking-law-tragic-failure-as-child-abuse-death-rate-continues/#comment-157889</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is wrong doing that stuff the crimnals should be put bihind bars.
thay need to lern there leson.it is not right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is wrong doing that stuff the crimnals should be put bihind bars.<br />
thay need to lern there leson.it is not right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alma</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/anti-smacking-law-tragic-failure-as-child-abuse-death-rate-continues/#comment-155145</link>
		<dc:creator>alma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is absolutely no Justice in New Zealand. The Family Court is a law unto itself. Yes the staff smile now. Their resources are used to destroy good families
while dysfunctional families are ignored. Where rape and abuse agaist women occur like in the gangs and brothels they do not venture there( same for womens refuge).
A stressed woman phone a governemnt agency about help with her family worries and then Womens Refuge steps in threatning her with removal of children if she did not follow them to their hideout. If not strong the woman goes, protection orders follow then a family is destroyed. The abuse sustained by the children is beyond belief. They get barred from their dad for months. Dads(mothers?) will be submitted to humiliating supervison contact with the children. If you paye for your humiliation the court will regard it as a good gesture because they know they have broken you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is absolutely no Justice in New Zealand. The Family Court is a law unto itself. Yes the staff smile now. Their resources are used to destroy good families<br />
while dysfunctional families are ignored. Where rape and abuse agaist women occur like in the gangs and brothels they do not venture there( same for womens refuge).<br />
A stressed woman phone a governemnt agency about help with her family worries and then Womens Refuge steps in threatning her with removal of children if she did not follow them to their hideout. If not strong the woman goes, protection orders follow then a family is destroyed. The abuse sustained by the children is beyond belief. They get barred from their dad for months. Dads(mothers?) will be submitted to humiliating supervison contact with the children. If you paye for your humiliation the court will regard it as a good gesture because they know they have broken you.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Laven</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/anti-smacking-law-tragic-failure-as-child-abuse-death-rate-continues/#comment-155020</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Laven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already had the results of the social experiment of banning corporal punishment in schools.  Far from supporting the claim that "stopping the modelling of violence" would lead to a reduction in violent behaviour, the results of this experiment are that teaching has become a physically unsafe occupation.  Bullying, youth violence, alcohol and drug abuse, disrespect for authority and for others in society have all increased steadily since the introduction of the experiment.  Schools suspend and expell students at many times the rate that they ever used to.  The violence in alienating a child from his or her social group and from socially normal developmental processes far exceeds the violence in a few stinging whacks across the legs, a punishment that previously was sufficient to keep most badly behaved kids in the fold.  

The outcome of the Bradford's social experiment will be similar in nature but far worse in degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already had the results of the social experiment of banning corporal punishment in schools.  Far from supporting the claim that &#8220;stopping the modelling of violence&#8221; would lead to a reduction in violent behaviour, the results of this experiment are that teaching has become a physically unsafe occupation.  Bullying, youth violence, alcohol and drug abuse, disrespect for authority and for others in society have all increased steadily since the introduction of the experiment.  Schools suspend and expell students at many times the rate that they ever used to.  The violence in alienating a child from his or her social group and from socially normal developmental processes far exceeds the violence in a few stinging whacks across the legs, a punishment that previously was sufficient to keep most badly behaved kids in the fold.  </p>
<p>The outcome of the Bradford&#8217;s social experiment will be similar in nature but far worse in degree.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Swash</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/anti-smacking-law-tragic-failure-as-child-abuse-death-rate-continues/#comment-154777</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Swash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The divorce rate for Italian couples in 2000 was only 13.7 per 100 marriages in 2000, similar to that of Ireland, but far below that of Belgium, 59.9 per 100, and Britain, 50.5 per 100 !
Most divorces in Italy take 4-5 years ! This is all due to the strong influence of the Roman Catholic church. When you go there , you just feel that families are more important and the woman have less incentive to break up families and automatically expect DPB from the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The divorce rate for Italian couples in 2000 was only 13.7 per 100 marriages in 2000, similar to that of Ireland, but far below that of Belgium, 59.9 per 100, and Britain, 50.5 per 100 !<br />
Most divorces in Italy take 4-5 years ! This is all due to the strong influence of the Roman Catholic church. When you go there , you just feel that families are more important and the woman have less incentive to break up families and automatically expect DPB from the state.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Harvey</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/anti-smacking-law-tragic-failure-as-child-abuse-death-rate-continues/#comment-154764</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am told that NZ politicians pass more legislation each year than any other western democracy.  However I'm doubtful that Italy have none.  Prof Bill Atkins lists them as having significant Family Law legislation in his International Review of Family Law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am told that NZ politicians pass more legislation each year than any other western democracy.  However I&#8217;m doubtful that Italy have none.  Prof Bill Atkins lists them as having significant Family Law legislation in his International Review of Family Law.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Swash</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/anti-smacking-law-tragic-failure-as-child-abuse-death-rate-continues/#comment-154745</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Swash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Countries which do not meddle in family matters like Italy, seem to have better happier families, these Idiot NZ policians just want to wield power in as many places as they can. INTRUSIVE !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Countries which do not meddle in family matters like Italy, seem to have better happier families, these Idiot NZ policians just want to wield power in as many places as they can. INTRUSIVE !</p>
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