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	<title>Comments on: Family Court problems for fathers.</title>
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	<description>- promoting a clearer understanding of men's experience -</description>
	<pubDate>Thu,  4 Dec 2008 00:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Perseus</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-186225</link>
		<dc:creator>Perseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a great victory in the US courts for men yesterday, 
Equality laws in other countries (especially sweden) are being used to get men true equality
In NZ, some sexes are more equal than others 

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=2844</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a great victory in the US courts for men yesterday,<br />
Equality laws in other countries (especially sweden) are being used to get men true equality<br />
In NZ, some sexes are more equal than others </p>
<p><a href="http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=2844" rel="nofollow">http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=2844</a></p>
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		<title>By: Perseus</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-186219</link>
		<dc:creator>Perseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbie
  The "Lawyer for Child" will ask your kids if they want you. If the mother has indoctrinated them, then the judge will simply ask her only what SHE wants, the Dad's wishes are not taken into account unless your kids strongly wish you to be in their lives. This is the terrible reality of Dad's position in NZ. If this is the case, you will only get to see your kids, one day a fortnight and you will have to pay child support. If your ex is malicious, she will stop the kids meeting you and the courts will do nothing, even though you have become a slave to the government. After several years, you will no longer be a parent, but a visitor to your kids, you may be "awarded" a few extra days. But the mother will always be able to stop them seeing you, the law will hardly ever punish the mother.
   That is the reality of the legal process, the government wants the mother to look after the kids, and the Dad to pay them for the DPB. Your best hope in this anti-male legal process is to make sure that the kids REALLY love you lots, never annoy the ex. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie<br />
  The &#8220;Lawyer for Child&#8221; will ask your kids if they want you. If the mother has indoctrinated them, then the judge will simply ask her only what SHE wants, the Dad&#8217;s wishes are not taken into account unless your kids strongly wish you to be in their lives. This is the terrible reality of Dad&#8217;s position in NZ. If this is the case, you will only get to see your kids, one day a fortnight and you will have to pay child support. If your ex is malicious, she will stop the kids meeting you and the courts will do nothing, even though you have become a slave to the government. After several years, you will no longer be a parent, but a visitor to your kids, you may be &#8220;awarded&#8221; a few extra days. But the mother will always be able to stop them seeing you, the law will hardly ever punish the mother.<br />
   That is the reality of the legal process, the government wants the mother to look after the kids, and the Dad to pay them for the DPB. Your best hope in this anti-male legal process is to make sure that the kids REALLY love you lots, never annoy the ex.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Catton</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-186216</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Catton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Robbie,

Provide your location and then perhaps you can be aligned with somebody to provide assistance and advice as may be required.

Kindest Regards
Paul Catton
East Auckland Refuge for Men and Families
(09) 271 3020</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Robbie,</p>
<p>Provide your location and then perhaps you can be aligned with somebody to provide assistance and advice as may be required.</p>
<p>Kindest Regards<br />
Paul Catton<br />
East Auckland Refuge for Men and Families<br />
(09) 271 3020</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-186215</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am about to go through the system to apply for shared care of my children.  I have so far been stopped at every post, from my childrens mother not wanting to do parenting counselling to lawyers who wont help when they find out I have to represent myself due to legal costs.
Has anyone got any advice on where to turn to next???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am about to go through the system to apply for shared care of my children.  I have so far been stopped at every post, from my childrens mother not wanting to do parenting counselling to lawyers who wont help when they find out I have to represent myself due to legal costs.<br />
Has anyone got any advice on where to turn to next???</p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-140880</link>
		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sarah, This makes me so mad that they are doing things like this. They should not be asking anyone to sign day to day care away. 

The counsellors at women's centres are scaring females into going to court to get day to day care on paper. They say that the father could pick the children up from school and kidnap them because he is still a custodian. 

It is pathetic. A mother is a mother and a father is a father. Both are parents 100% to a child. 

Would you mind if I e-mailed you and got your story. I think this needs to be made public if possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sarah, This makes me so mad that they are doing things like this. They should not be asking anyone to sign day to day care away. </p>
<p>The counsellors at women&#8217;s centres are scaring females into going to court to get day to day care on paper. They say that the father could pick the children up from school and kidnap them because he is still a custodian. </p>
<p>It is pathetic. A mother is a mother and a father is a father. Both are parents 100% to a child. </p>
<p>Would you mind if I e-mailed you and got your story. I think this needs to be made public if possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-140850</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering. How bad is it if the father signs day to day care away (after the councelling sessions) to the mother? Its all done, but still a bit hazy. Her lawyer was getting irrate because he was stalling signing it and the lawyer was threatening to take him to court. 
(the stalling was because of her nasty txts and refusing agreed access)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering. How bad is it if the father signs day to day care away (after the councelling sessions) to the mother? Its all done, but still a bit hazy. Her lawyer was getting irrate because he was stalling signing it and the lawyer was threatening to take him to court.<br />
(the stalling was because of her nasty txts and refusing agreed access)</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-140773</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct dad4justice, i have just come across a Family Court judge called L de Jong in the Family Court Northshore, this Judge would be the most biased prick i have ever experienced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct dad4justice, i have just come across a Family Court judge called L de Jong in the Family Court Northshore, this Judge would be the most biased prick i have ever experienced.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-140772</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the comment 'As a rule, protection orders still include children even if the applicant’s affidavit does not raise any concerns for their safety'
Being involved with the system for 8 years the bottom line is nothing has really changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the comment &#8216;As a rule, protection orders still include children even if the applicant’s affidavit does not raise any concerns for their safety&#8217;<br />
Being involved with the system for 8 years the bottom line is nothing has really changed.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-135934</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Family Court of New Zealand is a cess pit of stinking corruption !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Family Court of New Zealand is a cess pit of stinking corruption !</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/family-court-problems-for-fathers/#comment-135715</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should the "Auckland Family Courts association" and the "NZLS Family court section" not include representitives of consumers of their "Services"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should the &#8220;Auckland Family Courts association&#8221; and the &#8220;NZLS Family court section&#8221; not include representitives of consumers of their &#8220;Services&#8221;</p>
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