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		<title>By: rosie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150464</link>
		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jane
I understand what you're saying.I brought up my three children alone with not one cent of help from their father.
That was years ago and now I am in a totally different situation,married to a man who has to pay over $300 a week in child support this year.
He was paying child support through a private agreement.The sum that his ex stipulated was $200 a week.That suited her fine when he was paying more than he would have had to if she had gone through IRD.
But when we got married his ex saw red.She threatened to destroy our wedding day and she told my husband that she would make things as difficult as she could for us.As her own lawyer said "she didn't want him but she didn't want anyone else to have him either"
Since then she has kept to her word in trying to destroy us.
She seems to think that part of our new home should belong to her as well.
A huge chunk of it was payed from the sale of my own home and from my late daughter's insurance policy.
This ex wife stoops to low measures to further her financial gains.
When she decided to kick my husband out of her and his children's lives,she made herself a nominated person on his IRD files.She even changed his address to her address on his files a few weeks after we were married.Then three days after we bought our new home,she approached the IRD for child support,but she didn't tell my husband that she'd done that and she didn't tell the IRD that she was already receiving child support payments.
So she got payed twice.
And she is allowed to keep that.
We put our house on the market yesterday and I cryed myself to sleep last night.
Our dream was to have a B&#38;B.
Now my dream is to get as far as possible away from her.
My husband once made the foolish mistake of telling her how much I loved my animals.
We've heard nothing but that ever since.
We should not have spent money on having Leah cremated neither should we spend money on an operation for Winston.
Fuck her I absolutely hate her</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jane<br />
I understand what you&#8217;re saying.I brought up my three children alone with not one cent of help from their father.<br />
That was years ago and now I am in a totally different situation,married to a man who has to pay over $300 a week in child support this year.<br />
He was paying child support through a private agreement.The sum that his ex stipulated was $200 a week.That suited her fine when he was paying more than he would have had to if she had gone through IRD.<br />
But when we got married his ex saw red.She threatened to destroy our wedding day and she told my husband that she would make things as difficult as she could for us.As her own lawyer said &#8220;she didn&#8217;t want him but she didn&#8217;t want anyone else to have him either&#8221;<br />
Since then she has kept to her word in trying to destroy us.<br />
She seems to think that part of our new home should belong to her as well.<br />
A huge chunk of it was payed from the sale of my own home and from my late daughter&#8217;s insurance policy.<br />
This ex wife stoops to low measures to further her financial gains.<br />
When she decided to kick my husband out of her and his children&#8217;s lives,she made herself a nominated person on his IRD files.She even changed his address to her address on his files a few weeks after we were married.Then three days after we bought our new home,she approached the IRD for child support,but she didn&#8217;t tell my husband that she&#8217;d done that and she didn&#8217;t tell the IRD that she was already receiving child support payments.<br />
So she got payed twice.<br />
And she is allowed to keep that.<br />
We put our house on the market yesterday and I cryed myself to sleep last night.<br />
Our dream was to have a B&amp;B.<br />
Now my dream is to get as far as possible away from her.<br />
My husband once made the foolish mistake of telling her how much I loved my animals.<br />
We&#8217;ve heard nothing but that ever since.<br />
We should not have spent money on having Leah cremated neither should we spend money on an operation for Winston.<br />
Fuck her I absolutely hate her</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are coming to some sort of arrangment at the moment ( is e-mail the best way to communicate) but it is based on my childs father buying 'things.' So he has said he will buy the clothes for our child. Or will help out with the food bill directly. Sorry I wish I could warrant your thoughtful reply with something a little more but a bit tired at the moment. 

However I think that 150 dollars a week is a little low. Not that I am suggesting I would be after 150 dollars I actually suggested 50 dollars as my childs father does have to travel to see us. 

I say that 150 dollars is a little low as I pay 165 dollars a week in child care bills. But this is part of the problem I am a middle income earnier ( with student loan which escalated when on the DPB yes more bitterness opps I choose food but found out what interest rates means). So without clothes or bills added in my son costs me 315 dollars a week to run, sorry made him out to sound like a car. Again this is all so personal and each situation is different.  But at the end of the week yes I still have 80 dollars in my hand. ( But at the same time this also means doctors and dentists are to be avoided at all costs and I think staff members here think I am trying to look grungy and cool with my attire.) SO after a very long rant I suppose and I have been on this soap box before without family I am extremely reliant on child care...which is a huge cost. There is also a rumour going round my child care that after care costs the same at school...so I might be looking at changing that 5am start to a 4am start...in the morning...but it could work out fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are coming to some sort of arrangment at the moment ( is e-mail the best way to communicate) but it is based on my childs father buying &#8216;things.&#8217; So he has said he will buy the clothes for our child. Or will help out with the food bill directly. Sorry I wish I could warrant your thoughtful reply with something a little more but a bit tired at the moment. </p>
<p>However I think that 150 dollars a week is a little low. Not that I am suggesting I would be after 150 dollars I actually suggested 50 dollars as my childs father does have to travel to see us. </p>
<p>I say that 150 dollars is a little low as I pay 165 dollars a week in child care bills. But this is part of the problem I am a middle income earnier ( with student loan which escalated when on the DPB yes more bitterness opps I choose food but found out what interest rates means). So without clothes or bills added in my son costs me 315 dollars a week to run, sorry made him out to sound like a car. Again this is all so personal and each situation is different.  But at the end of the week yes I still have 80 dollars in my hand. ( But at the same time this also means doctors and dentists are to be avoided at all costs and I think staff members here think I am trying to look grungy and cool with my attire.) SO after a very long rant I suppose and I have been on this soap box before without family I am extremely reliant on child care&#8230;which is a huge cost. There is also a rumour going round my child care that after care costs the same at school&#8230;so I might be looking at changing that 5am start to a 4am start&#8230;in the morning&#8230;but it could work out fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Laven</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150445</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Laven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane - Sorry to hear you are struggling financially, a terrible stress most of us have experienced and that I would wish on nobody.  I don't think anyone here would argue that both parents should not be responsible for contributing to the costs of rearing their own children.  Some argue that their contribution should be associated with some right to maintain a meaningful parental relationship with the child(ren) concerned, and I agree with this to a limited extent although there would need to be exceptions such as where the parent has been properly proven to present a risk to the child(ren) that outweighs benefits from the full relationship.  Many here would argue that both parents' day-to-day contributions to the children should be calculated in, such as the clothing and food they provide during "access" visits and indeed the costs of maintaining such visits if such costs have been brought about by the other parent's decisions, e.g. to move far away from the other's residence.  I agree with these ideas also, but there would need to be some reasonable criteria for what can be claimed as contributions; for example, I wouldn't agree that buying expensive toys, fast food, theme park tickets etc need to be included because such things are discretionary on either parent's part.  However, basic food and clothing, and perhaps a limited budget allowed for recreational items and activities, could be included and this would seem fair to liable parents and more importantly would benefit children by encouraging liable parents to  participate fully in their lives.

The current child support system is dishonest because if liable parents work hard and earn more, they soon pay amounts that exceed any reasonable costs for children.  How many children would cost $400 plus per week to run?  Such amounts can only be meant as spousal support, or more usually as compensation to the government for its spousal support costs.  The current system also imposes ridiculous compounding penalties that soon create an impossible hurdle for those liable parents who fall behind in their payments for any reason.

Surely, the average cost of specifically child expenses - food, clothing, health, education, would not amount to more than, say, $150 per week per child.  If liable parents were required to pay a half share of such a realistic amount, and their direct contributions towards those expenses were taken into account, few would complain or default. (In an ongoing welfare state, a sliding scale up to such realistic amounts could still be employed for liable parents who are beneficiaries or low income earners, with the shortfall provided as a means-tested benefit to the primary caregiver parent.)

Also, as long as a no-fault separation policy is in place it will be difficult to avoid massive injustice.  Personally, I believe that if the main economic provider chooses to leave the main child-carer with ongoing primary responsibility for looking after the children, then spousal support is appropriate, a half share of an average basic lifestyle cost.  If in these cases the parents share the care of the children equally, such support should be considerably lower.      

I don't think it's useful to compare one's lifestyle, holidays etc with that of one's ex-partner.  If one's ex partner does well, this will also benefit the children.  As independent adults we have to leave each other to their own fate.  

Have you thought of asking your child's father for a reasonable amount actually related to your son's costs, or to pay a half share of those costs directly?  Many men are frightened of becoming involved with the machine-like child-support bureaucracy, receiving constant threatening correspondence and so forth, and would jump at the opportunity for a private arrangement that was reasonable towards them.  I respect the priority you place on our child's relationship with his father.  However, if he is not prepared to contribute at all financially one wonders whether his commitment to the child will be reliable anyway.  I don't think it's a good idea to bow down to threats to abandon the child; if he carries that out he is responsible for his own choice and you are not.  Your responsibility is to facilitate his contact with your child and for managing your own life.  It has to be reasonable to ask for a realistic financial contribution towards his child.  Anyway, these are my opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane - Sorry to hear you are struggling financially, a terrible stress most of us have experienced and that I would wish on nobody.  I don&#8217;t think anyone here would argue that both parents should not be responsible for contributing to the costs of rearing their own children.  Some argue that their contribution should be associated with some right to maintain a meaningful parental relationship with the child(ren) concerned, and I agree with this to a limited extent although there would need to be exceptions such as where the parent has been properly proven to present a risk to the child(ren) that outweighs benefits from the full relationship.  Many here would argue that both parents&#8217; day-to-day contributions to the children should be calculated in, such as the clothing and food they provide during &#8220;access&#8221; visits and indeed the costs of maintaining such visits if such costs have been brought about by the other parent&#8217;s decisions, e.g. to move far away from the other&#8217;s residence.  I agree with these ideas also, but there would need to be some reasonable criteria for what can be claimed as contributions; for example, I wouldn&#8217;t agree that buying expensive toys, fast food, theme park tickets etc need to be included because such things are discretionary on either parent&#8217;s part.  However, basic food and clothing, and perhaps a limited budget allowed for recreational items and activities, could be included and this would seem fair to liable parents and more importantly would benefit children by encouraging liable parents to  participate fully in their lives.</p>
<p>The current child support system is dishonest because if liable parents work hard and earn more, they soon pay amounts that exceed any reasonable costs for children.  How many children would cost $400 plus per week to run?  Such amounts can only be meant as spousal support, or more usually as compensation to the government for its spousal support costs.  The current system also imposes ridiculous compounding penalties that soon create an impossible hurdle for those liable parents who fall behind in their payments for any reason.</p>
<p>Surely, the average cost of specifically child expenses - food, clothing, health, education, would not amount to more than, say, $150 per week per child.  If liable parents were required to pay a half share of such a realistic amount, and their direct contributions towards those expenses were taken into account, few would complain or default. (In an ongoing welfare state, a sliding scale up to such realistic amounts could still be employed for liable parents who are beneficiaries or low income earners, with the shortfall provided as a means-tested benefit to the primary caregiver parent.)</p>
<p>Also, as long as a no-fault separation policy is in place it will be difficult to avoid massive injustice.  Personally, I believe that if the main economic provider chooses to leave the main child-carer with ongoing primary responsibility for looking after the children, then spousal support is appropriate, a half share of an average basic lifestyle cost.  If in these cases the parents share the care of the children equally, such support should be considerably lower.      </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s useful to compare one&#8217;s lifestyle, holidays etc with that of one&#8217;s ex-partner.  If one&#8217;s ex partner does well, this will also benefit the children.  As independent adults we have to leave each other to their own fate.  </p>
<p>Have you thought of asking your child&#8217;s father for a reasonable amount actually related to your son&#8217;s costs, or to pay a half share of those costs directly?  Many men are frightened of becoming involved with the machine-like child-support bureaucracy, receiving constant threatening correspondence and so forth, and would jump at the opportunity for a private arrangement that was reasonable towards them.  I respect the priority you place on our child&#8217;s relationship with his father.  However, if he is not prepared to contribute at all financially one wonders whether his commitment to the child will be reliable anyway.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a good idea to bow down to threats to abandon the child; if he carries that out he is responsible for his own choice and you are not.  Your responsibility is to facilitate his contact with your child and for managing your own life.  It has to be reasonable to ask for a realistic financial contribution towards his child.  Anyway, these are my opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150439</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its really hard reading all of this it is just truly such an emotional issue.  I am a female. I am raising a child with no financial support at all on my own. I have no family to help me. But I do wish I had support. I just get so wound up by the constant stress. I feel underneath it all he ( the father) does not want me any better off its actually not about our child but a perception that I may benefit. I just want my child to be supported thats all. I dont want this huge chunk of income I just want a contribution for food, for clothing ....where I am going with this I suppose I have seen the Australian system change and it is now father centric in terms of child support. But the sytem was changed becasue of rhetoric that is on this site of the system being unfair for men. I just keep on thinking well what about the children...agian I acknowledge it is painful for everyone so much anger. But I suppose I am just here to say some of those women out there me included...just want some money for food, shelter and clothing.   ( And yes some of us WOMEN also look at our ex's living in nice houses going on holidays and wonder gee...this is just not fair still working on how to come to terms with that as I cant seem to afford a house nor holidays sigh....thats life aye) 

Yes I could go for child support and I would be 140 dollars better off a week sorry it just sounds so attractive and would make a huge difference to child care bills, food bills, clothing bills...but then my ex argues we can say good bye to seeing him ever again....
YEP and there are more out there as silly as me no doubt....

Sorry this is ...this is just written by someone who just once more tried to go well I would like you to pay child support followed by a big angry burst including me.....but am still reluctant to subject what ever we have to the system...but then isnt it my son that loses out because I am tryign to be nice....just keep going through this in my head...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its really hard reading all of this it is just truly such an emotional issue.  I am a female. I am raising a child with no financial support at all on my own. I have no family to help me. But I do wish I had support. I just get so wound up by the constant stress. I feel underneath it all he ( the father) does not want me any better off its actually not about our child but a perception that I may benefit. I just want my child to be supported thats all. I dont want this huge chunk of income I just want a contribution for food, for clothing &#8230;.where I am going with this I suppose I have seen the Australian system change and it is now father centric in terms of child support. But the sytem was changed becasue of rhetoric that is on this site of the system being unfair for men. I just keep on thinking well what about the children&#8230;agian I acknowledge it is painful for everyone so much anger. But I suppose I am just here to say some of those women out there me included&#8230;just want some money for food, shelter and clothing.   ( And yes some of us WOMEN also look at our ex&#8217;s living in nice houses going on holidays and wonder gee&#8230;this is just not fair still working on how to come to terms with that as I cant seem to afford a house nor holidays sigh&#8230;.thats life aye) </p>
<p>Yes I could go for child support and I would be 140 dollars better off a week sorry it just sounds so attractive and would make a huge difference to child care bills, food bills, clothing bills&#8230;but then my ex argues we can say good bye to seeing him ever again&#8230;.<br />
YEP and there are more out there as silly as me no doubt&#8230;.</p>
<p>Sorry this is &#8230;this is just written by someone who just once more tried to go well I would like you to pay child support followed by a big angry burst including me&#8230;..but am still reluctant to subject what ever we have to the system&#8230;but then isnt it my son that loses out because I am tryign to be nice&#8230;.just keep going through this in my head&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150385</link>
		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did my husband do that was so wrong then?
When he got a dick head of a review officer who wasn't able to distinguish one financial year from another,he didn't exactly have a lot going in his favour did he?
His ex wife said that he didn't pay enough CS for the financial year ending 31-3-07 when in fact this is the year that ends today.Tomorrow he will be paying CS for the financial year that ends on 31-3-2008.He can't pay for the financial year that ends on 31-3-09 because he doesn't know what he will earn before then.
He may even be dead before then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did my husband do that was so wrong then?<br />
When he got a dick head of a review officer who wasn&#8217;t able to distinguish one financial year from another,he didn&#8217;t exactly have a lot going in his favour did he?<br />
His ex wife said that he didn&#8217;t pay enough CS for the financial year ending 31-3-07 when in fact this is the year that ends today.Tomorrow he will be paying CS for the financial year that ends on 31-3-2008.He can&#8217;t pay for the financial year that ends on 31-3-09 because he doesn&#8217;t know what he will earn before then.<br />
He may even be dead before then.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Catton</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150384</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Catton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ian (Agrieved Father)

I apologise for my Woosh phone being sporadic.
Your reservations about your legal advocate and his disclosure give you the right to terminate his services at this time, Advise the Court that you are to be a self litigant and as it being far advanced in proceedings you wish an adjournment of at least 90 days.
I would advise you make this option, obtain the adjournment citing matters of parliamentary disclosure and your witness summonsing needing to be considered being favourable to this challenge of Child Support enforcement of a retrospective nature

You are to summon to Court both Judith Collins and Peter Dunne, further you should also have application within this Court an Application for Publication.
Take digital photographs of the players (barren lesbians) perhaps, I misquoted.
Anyway, take digital photographs of the opposition, ask them to smile, as it will look more aesthetic in the final publication when granted by the Court.

Kindest Regards
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ian (Agrieved Father)</p>
<p>I apologise for my Woosh phone being sporadic.<br />
Your reservations about your legal advocate and his disclosure give you the right to terminate his services at this time, Advise the Court that you are to be a self litigant and as it being far advanced in proceedings you wish an adjournment of at least 90 days.<br />
I would advise you make this option, obtain the adjournment citing matters of parliamentary disclosure and your witness summonsing needing to be considered being favourable to this challenge of Child Support enforcement of a retrospective nature</p>
<p>You are to summon to Court both Judith Collins and Peter Dunne, further you should also have application within this Court an Application for Publication.<br />
Take digital photographs of the players (barren lesbians) perhaps, I misquoted.<br />
Anyway, take digital photographs of the opposition, ask them to smile, as it will look more aesthetic in the final publication when granted by the Court.</p>
<p>Kindest Regards<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Harvey</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150378</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I can symathise with the sentiments Rosie I have been very successful in my last four admin reviews.  First one set matters at $630 a month, then it went down to 600, then 300, then 220  and most recent review set matters at 101 a month.  I'm more than satisfied with my review officer who wore trousers but the first two reductions were done by skirt wearers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I can symathise with the sentiments Rosie I have been very successful in my last four admin reviews.  First one set matters at $630 a month, then it went down to 600, then 300, then 220  and most recent review set matters at 101 a month.  I&#8217;m more than satisfied with my review officer who wore trousers but the first two reductions were done by skirt wearers.</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150354</link>
		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another warning.
Don't any of you guys waste your time in going for admin reviews.
You'll get a jumped up jerk,in most cases dressed in a skirt,who will always side with the devious and cruel partner.
Even if you have to pay double child support payments,once through a private agreement and secondly through IRD,the heinous creatures that the IRD employ for admin reviews,will twist things around to make it appear that it is you who is in the wrong.
Be like the women who get away with everything.Become a nominated person on their IRD files.All you need to know is their IRD number,their birthdate and address and then get one of your girl friends to phone them.She'll get a letter addressed to her in response,but if you make sure she's at work, she won't receive it.
Then you're set up for life.You can change her address at any time you wish.It's even easier if you get an info express pin in her name.All you have to do then is click on a few buttons on your phone.
You will always be believed because the IRD never make mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another warning.<br />
Don&#8217;t any of you guys waste your time in going for admin reviews.<br />
You&#8217;ll get a jumped up jerk,in most cases dressed in a skirt,who will always side with the devious and cruel partner.<br />
Even if you have to pay double child support payments,once through a private agreement and secondly through IRD,the heinous creatures that the IRD employ for admin reviews,will twist things around to make it appear that it is you who is in the wrong.<br />
Be like the women who get away with everything.Become a nominated person on their IRD files.All you need to know is their IRD number,their birthdate and address and then get one of your girl friends to phone them.She&#8217;ll get a letter addressed to her in response,but if you make sure she&#8217;s at work, she won&#8217;t receive it.<br />
Then you&#8217;re set up for life.You can change her address at any time you wish.It&#8217;s even easier if you get an info express pin in her name.All you have to do then is click on a few buttons on your phone.<br />
You will always be believed because the IRD never make mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Agrieved Father</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150214</link>
		<dc:creator>Agrieved Father</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's fine Rosie however it may have to wait until after thursday next week as I'm off to Wellington now for this Court Case.
All I can say is that I had better not lose as it's a Test Case and could make things far worse than it is now for those paying child support.
Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s fine Rosie however it may have to wait until after thursday next week as I&#8217;m off to Wellington now for this Court Case.<br />
All I can say is that I had better not lose as it&#8217;s a Test Case and could make things far worse than it is now for those paying child support.<br />
Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/nationals-father-bashing/#comment-150175</link>
		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband's ex wife is also unbelievably vindictive,calculating and devious.
Can I discuss this with you further privately?
My email address is oscarwild222@hotmail.com
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband&#8217;s ex wife is also unbelievably vindictive,calculating and devious.<br />
Can I discuss this with you further privately?<br />
My email address is <a href="mailto:oscarwild222@hotmail.com">oscarwild222@hotmail.com</a><br />
Cheers</p>
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