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	<title>Comments on: Rape Misinformation</title>
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		<title>By: Hans Laven</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/rape-misinformation/#comment-186401</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Laven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not had the courtesy of any reply to my correspondence to Dr McGregor.  I shall follow up and keep all informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not had the courtesy of any reply to my correspondence to Dr McGregor.  I shall follow up and keep all informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Perseus</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/rape-misinformation/#comment-186197</link>
		<dc:creator>Perseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1077266/He-seduced-Married-housewife-sex-boy-14-walks-free-court-judges-extraordinary-ruling.html

In England a Woman 40 had sex several times with 14 year old boy, gives him coacaine , but is still unpunished. She claimed that the boy "seduced her".

This is good news! As a male, if I had a relationship with an under age girl I could argue she seduced me, then I would get off the hook and not go on the sex offenders register. Did anybody see that pig fly by!</description>
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<p>In England a Woman 40 had sex several times with 14 year old boy, gives him coacaine , but is still unpunished. She claimed that the boy &#8220;seduced her&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is good news! As a male, if I had a relationship with an under age girl I could argue she seduced me, then I would get off the hook and not go on the sex offenders register. Did anybody see that pig fly by!</p>
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		<title>By: Scrap_The_CSA</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/rape-misinformation/#comment-186195</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrap_The_CSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McGregor needs to repeat Stats 101.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Dr Kim McGregor, director of Auckland-based group Rape Prevention Education, said that about 2-10 per cent of rape claims were false, but an estimated 91 per cent of sex attacks were not reported.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To estimate that 91% of sex attacks are unreported has no factual base and contributes to creating a position that verges on the ridiculous. 

There are valid statistical uses for estimation but any estimate remains exactly that an estimate not a reality! 

Given the ideological model that McGregor demonstrates the likely of estimator basis is very high.

If I estimated like this in my job I would be laughed off the executive team. Im limited to reality not myth in applying ststisical analysis to complex busines system. 

Regards

Scrap

p.s in case you all wonder my speciality is statistical anaylsis of complex IT systems to identify and remove the root cause of problems.Im not paid to bullshit to get more funding, if I did that I would have no employment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McGregor needs to repeat Stats 101.</p>
<blockquote><p>Dr Kim McGregor, director of Auckland-based group Rape Prevention Education, said that about 2-10 per cent of rape claims were false, but an estimated 91 per cent of sex attacks were not reported.</p></blockquote>
<p>To estimate that 91% of sex attacks are unreported has no factual base and contributes to creating a position that verges on the ridiculous. </p>
<p>There are valid statistical uses for estimation but any estimate remains exactly that an estimate not a reality! </p>
<p>Given the ideological model that McGregor demonstrates the likely of estimator basis is very high.</p>
<p>If I estimated like this in my job I would be laughed off the executive team. Im limited to reality not myth in applying ststisical analysis to complex busines system. </p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Scrap</p>
<p>p.s in case you all wonder my speciality is statistical anaylsis of complex IT systems to identify and remove the root cause of problems.Im not paid to bullshit to get more funding, if I did that I would have no employment</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Case</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/rape-misinformation/#comment-186194</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The duplicity surrounding the immediate and heavy punishment of male sex offenders, and the turning of blind eyes to women who exploit this societal bias for their own ends, reminds me of another period in our recent history in which men were systematically persecuted and women were given a pass for doing the same thing.

I refer to homosexuality. 

Up until the the 80's, when male homosexuality was decriminalised, men were routinely arrested, jailed and publicly humiliated - they were held up us abominations and outrages to society. Lesbians, on the other hand, never saw the inside of a prison cell or had their names published in public newspapers. Homosexuality was only a crime if engaged in by men.

This tendency we have to publicly punish only men for behaviour both sexes engage in is something we desperately need to at least acknowledge, before we will ever get around to doing anything about it. Whilst we remain so steadfastedly in denial about the way we use men as whipping-boys to salve the consciences of an unthinking public, then whipping-boys are the fate we have chosen for ourselves.

Female-privilege activists will have no difficulty in continuing to use us as such if we allow ourselves to be so used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The duplicity surrounding the immediate and heavy punishment of male sex offenders, and the turning of blind eyes to women who exploit this societal bias for their own ends, reminds me of another period in our recent history in which men were systematically persecuted and women were given a pass for doing the same thing.</p>
<p>I refer to homosexuality. </p>
<p>Up until the the 80&#8217;s, when male homosexuality was decriminalised, men were routinely arrested, jailed and publicly humiliated - they were held up us abominations and outrages to society. Lesbians, on the other hand, never saw the inside of a prison cell or had their names published in public newspapers. Homosexuality was only a crime if engaged in by men.</p>
<p>This tendency we have to publicly punish only men for behaviour both sexes engage in is something we desperately need to at least acknowledge, before we will ever get around to doing anything about it. Whilst we remain so steadfastedly in denial about the way we use men as whipping-boys to salve the consciences of an unthinking public, then whipping-boys are the fate we have chosen for ourselves.</p>
<p>Female-privilege activists will have no difficulty in continuing to use us as such if we allow ourselves to be so used.</p>
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