<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The time has come!</title>
	<atom:link href="http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/</link>
	<description>- promoting a clearer understanding of men&#039;s experience -</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:09:51 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Joy</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-235640</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-235640</guid>
		<description>We have enough of the current system also. My partner and I have shared custody of his kids and  still have to pay child support although we have the kids on a week on/week off basis and paying school fees and sports/activity fees. We certainly don&#039;t mind paying the fees as we know where the money is going but his exwife who chooses to work part time and hardly seems to work at all demanded more money from us per month so she could move houses. We refused and suddenly she now wants full custody basically so she can get more money and basically wanting us to become her babysitters! Last year we found out that she was conning WINZ by claiming for the weeks we were paying for afterschool care by claiming for our weeks so that she basically didn&#039;t have to pay anything at all. We only found out because the OSCAR appointed system mistakenly gave us the end of year invoice and not to his exwife. On querying the invoices we were told it was standard practice that WINZ are charged for the weeks/days the boys weren&#039;t even at after school care! Someone is obviously prompting her to go for gold and take us for all the money she can get ... we both work fulltime but why should we if we have to pay for her lifestyle! She is perfectly capable of working and earning a fulltime salary as she only has the kids every other week. There should be some accontability ... and now her boyfriend has moved in as well and she still wants more money!  I can&#039;t believe how vindictive and bitter exwives can get when they lose sight of what is best for their kids ... to have their children&#039;s father around for the kids whilst growing up! It&#039;s an utter shame this type of situation is allowed to perpetuate itself in this day and age!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have enough of the current system also. My partner and I have shared custody of his kids and  still have to pay child support although we have the kids on a week on/week off basis and paying school fees and sports/activity fees. We certainly don&#8217;t mind paying the fees as we know where the money is going but his exwife who chooses to work part time and hardly seems to work at all demanded more money from us per month so she could move houses. We refused and suddenly she now wants full custody basically so she can get more money and basically wanting us to become her babysitters! Last year we found out that she was conning WINZ by claiming for the weeks we were paying for afterschool care by claiming for our weeks so that she basically didn&#8217;t have to pay anything at all. We only found out because the OSCAR appointed system mistakenly gave us the end of year invoice and not to his exwife. On querying the invoices we were told it was standard practice that WINZ are charged for the weeks/days the boys weren&#8217;t even at after school care! Someone is obviously prompting her to go for gold and take us for all the money she can get &#8230; we both work fulltime but why should we if we have to pay for her lifestyle! She is perfectly capable of working and earning a fulltime salary as she only has the kids every other week. There should be some accontability &#8230; and now her boyfriend has moved in as well and she still wants more money!  I can&#8217;t believe how vindictive and bitter exwives can get when they lose sight of what is best for their kids &#8230; to have their children&#8217;s father around for the kids whilst growing up! It&#8217;s an utter shame this type of situation is allowed to perpetuate itself in this day and age!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Perseus</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-186527</link>
		<dc:creator>Perseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-186527</guid>
		<description>OK, Hans, i am pleased to hear that you sent the letters, but what we need is a MASS mailing.
All the anti-male, anti-family bias is obvious really, where are the women supporting us , it is them who will make the change happen too 
I will keep up the mails, informing sponsors of womens&#039; refuges that these refuges are telling women how to make false claims of domestic violence. The legal workers will not want this however, and in a small country like NZ, things will only really be changed from outside</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Hans, i am pleased to hear that you sent the letters, but what we need is a MASS mailing.<br />
All the anti-male, anti-family bias is obvious really, where are the women supporting us , it is them who will make the change happen too<br />
I will keep up the mails, informing sponsors of womens&#8217; refuges that these refuges are telling women how to make false claims of domestic violence. The legal workers will not want this however, and in a small country like NZ, things will only really be changed from outside</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hans Laven</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-186518</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Laven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-186518</guid>
		<description>Perseus:  Yes, you speak sense.  However, be aware that some people are challenging individuals and groups who express support for anti-male policies.  I have posted on Menz a number of letters that I have sent to MP&#039;s and leaders of various groups challenging them in exactly that way.  I wrote to all the businesses that sponsored the agency producing the misandrist &quot;cake&quot; adverts.  I have noticed that a number of prominent people including MPs and even Henare from Wimmin&#039;s Refuge have started to change the way they speak publicly about domestic violence, e.g. referring to &quot;people who commit domestic violence&quot; instead of &quot;men&quot;.  It works, probably even better than letters to editors which however are also important for general community awareness raising.  Unfortunately it takes a lot of time and there are not many doing it.  How many who spend time doing excellent posts here have actually written to anti-male spokespersons or responded to encouragement from others here to participate in letter-writing campaigns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perseus:  Yes, you speak sense.  However, be aware that some people are challenging individuals and groups who express support for anti-male policies.  I have posted on Menz a number of letters that I have sent to MP&#8217;s and leaders of various groups challenging them in exactly that way.  I wrote to all the businesses that sponsored the agency producing the misandrist &#8220;cake&#8221; adverts.  I have noticed that a number of prominent people including MPs and even Henare from Wimmin&#8217;s Refuge have started to change the way they speak publicly about domestic violence, e.g. referring to &#8220;people who commit domestic violence&#8221; instead of &#8220;men&#8221;.  It works, probably even better than letters to editors which however are also important for general community awareness raising.  Unfortunately it takes a lot of time and there are not many doing it.  How many who spend time doing excellent posts here have actually written to anti-male spokespersons or responded to encouragement from others here to participate in letter-writing campaigns?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tigerseye</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-186498</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigerseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-186498</guid>
		<description>Gerry, in regards to # 12, thank you so much for your support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry, in regards to # 12, thank you so much for your support.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Perseus</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-186492</link>
		<dc:creator>Perseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-186492</guid>
		<description>A simple thing would be to find out all the sponsors of local women&#039;s groups and refuges and explain fathers point of view and the fact that all these refuges are telling women what to put in PO applications simply to make false allegations to split up families . WHY ISN&#039;T ANYONE ALready doing this ? 
DV is mainly an industry, the womens groups need more publicity to get more money which will be used for increasing anti-father publicity, it is a circle

We must hit these evil groups&#039; pockets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple thing would be to find out all the sponsors of local women&#8217;s groups and refuges and explain fathers point of view and the fact that all these refuges are telling women what to put in PO applications simply to make false allegations to split up families . WHY ISN&#8217;T ANYONE ALready doing this ?<br />
DV is mainly an industry, the womens groups need more publicity to get more money which will be used for increasing anti-father publicity, it is a circle</p>
<p>We must hit these evil groups&#8217; pockets</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Perseus</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-186488</link>
		<dc:creator>Perseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-186488</guid>
		<description>Come on New Zealand, men in USA are starting to achieve something, we are just going along getting nowhere, with all the splintered fathers groups. In USA , i think a tipping point has been reached finally ! Real women , not lesbians and feminists, are beginning to rally behind dads, they know that all the Family Court CRAP is harming families and something is wrong. John, we need a leader with knowledge of websites, and co-ordinate it all like Glen Sacks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on New Zealand, men in USA are starting to achieve something, we are just going along getting nowhere, with all the splintered fathers groups. In USA , i think a tipping point has been reached finally ! Real women , not lesbians and feminists, are beginning to rally behind dads, they know that all the Family Court CRAP is harming families and something is wrong. John, we need a leader with knowledge of websites, and co-ordinate it all like Glen Sacks</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Perseus</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-186483</link>
		<dc:creator>Perseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-186483</guid>
		<description>(This man is not me, by the way), 

Contrast the way that in NZ, there are DV campaigns featuring only female victims and nothing is done to counteract these campaigns, that use tax payers money, more than half of which is collected from men !

i do not know how to choose the man (or woman) to represent us all, i am just floating ideas, but IT IS AN IDEA THAT WILL Succeed ! The most important thing is for EVERY MAN to support this &quot;spokesman for men&quot;. This man must be media friendly, not annoying and most important of all NOT THREATENING or too agressive.

The choice must be made by someone else on here, he must know how to update websites , of course. Glen Sacks is not the greatest oral spokesman (see him on YouTube), but seems to write  really effective articles and campaigns. He must co-ordinate campaigns, display Email addresses for all of us to respond to, i know that this has been done to a limited extent already on here !

ALL TYRANY ENDS SOMETIME </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(This man is not me, by the way), </p>
<p>Contrast the way that in NZ, there are DV campaigns featuring only female victims and nothing is done to counteract these campaigns, that use tax payers money, more than half of which is collected from men !</p>
<p>i do not know how to choose the man (or woman) to represent us all, i am just floating ideas, but IT IS AN IDEA THAT WILL Succeed ! The most important thing is for EVERY MAN to support this &#8220;spokesman for men&#8221;. This man must be media friendly, not annoying and most important of all NOT THREATENING or too agressive.</p>
<p>The choice must be made by someone else on here, he must know how to update websites , of course. Glen Sacks is not the greatest oral spokesman (see him on YouTube), but seems to write  really effective articles and campaigns. He must co-ordinate campaigns, display Email addresses for all of us to respond to, i know that this has been done to a limited extent already on here !</p>
<p>ALL TYRANY ENDS SOMETIME</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Perseus</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-186482</link>
		<dc:creator>Perseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-186482</guid>
		<description>http://www.glennsacks.com/blog/?page_id=908

Seeing the progress and successes of some of Glen Sack&#039;s campaigns in US, make me think such an approach is required here. He is virtually overturning a hysterical anti-dad &quot;Domestic Violence&quot; campaign on Dallas buses, it is TRULY TRULY INSPIRING !

In short what is required is 1 central figure to &quot;speak&quot; for men in NZ, and he (or she) must co-ordinate &quot;campaigns&quot; against anti-male items in the press, the courts  and society. He should have campaigns ONLY for major items, to avoid campaign fatigue. This man must be a central point for contact with the press, and must be used to dealing with them.

Other men must respect the fact that there must be only 1 man who will speak for ALL men in NZ, all jealousies must STOP , for the GREATER GOOD of Dads everywhere.  Men&#039;s groups are fractured, this is OK, but there must be only 1 who should &quot;speak for Kiwi men&quot;. This person would then get lots of media attention and organize men to &quot;flood&quot; institutions, courts, people, with complaints. 

THIS IS THE WAY FORWARD FOR MEN IN NZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.glennsacks.com/blog/?page_id=908" rel="nofollow">http://www.glennsacks.com/blog/?page_id=908</a></p>
<p>Seeing the progress and successes of some of Glen Sack&#8217;s campaigns in US, make me think such an approach is required here. He is virtually overturning a hysterical anti-dad &#8220;Domestic Violence&#8221; campaign on Dallas buses, it is TRULY TRULY INSPIRING !</p>
<p>In short what is required is 1 central figure to &#8220;speak&#8221; for men in NZ, and he (or she) must co-ordinate &#8220;campaigns&#8221; against anti-male items in the press, the courts  and society. He should have campaigns ONLY for major items, to avoid campaign fatigue. This man must be a central point for contact with the press, and must be used to dealing with them.</p>
<p>Other men must respect the fact that there must be only 1 man who will speak for ALL men in NZ, all jealousies must STOP , for the GREATER GOOD of Dads everywhere.  Men&#8217;s groups are fractured, this is OK, but there must be only 1 who should &#8220;speak for Kiwi men&#8221;. This person would then get lots of media attention and organize men to &#8220;flood&#8221; institutions, courts, people, with complaints. </p>
<p>THIS IS THE WAY FORWARD FOR MEN IN NZ</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-186460</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-186460</guid>
		<description>Congratulations Tigerseye, this was all news to me and the Republicans have my party vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Tigerseye, this was all news to me and the Republicans have my party vote.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gender equality and victim&#8217;s rights at Wellington Central &#171; LudditeJourno</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2008/the-tine-has-come/comment-page-1/#comment-186365</link>
		<dc:creator>Gender equality and victim&#8217;s rights at Wellington Central &#171; LudditeJourno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://menz.org.nz/?p=2322#comment-186365</guid>
		<description>[...] Harnish is campaigning on issues of gender equality - his first plan is to abolish the Family Court and introduce a Ministry of Men&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Harnish is campaigning on issues of gender equality &#8211; his first plan is to abolish the Family Court and introduce a Ministry of Men&#8217;s [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
