Comments on: Time for a boycott?

By: Rath Ernot

Rath Ernot — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:18:23 +0000

There were 94 petitions for a 5
year protection order in Summit
County, Ohio this past April (2008)

Approaching 1,000 every year

google “cpclerk”

A percentage of every Marriage Licence fee
and every divorce filing fee goes to the
poor Battered Women Shelter, last I checked
a few years ago. Its amazing how the Bride
magazines keep any readership.

Just a bloke away from his kids 7 years now.

- Rath Ernot

By: bull en a china shop

bull en a china shop — Tue, 20 May 2008 03:44:38 +0000

I was in the cells at otatahuhu one night and the seargent was telling someone to open his arse wider, all i heard was open wider, wider… i don’t know if it was a search or if he was fucking one of the new recruits, definitely poofter mate…

By: whanga

whanga — Tue, 20 May 2008 00:49:22 +0000

Of course it happened.Why would I say it if it didn’t?As for the PCA have you ever heard of them actually doing anything?I have made complaints to them about things 100 times as serious as this only to have them ignored.
The Police in NZ are a joke and getting worse

By: xsryder

xsryder — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:01:54 +0000

Hi Whanga,
Could you please confirm that what you observed at the Auckland police station actually happened (police officer watching porn etc). If this actually occured, did you make a complaint to the Police Complaints Authority (PCA)?.

By: Hans Laven

Hans Laven — Fri, 16 May 2008 06:29:50 +0000

Yes, unfortunately if the Courts know that applications are vexatious, part of a political stunt, they will dismiss them. For that matter, the chances of a man getting a protection order are not so great, because the Courts have free reign in believing or disbelieving any party, and they just happen to believe women much more often than men. Even when the woman has been shown through evidence to have fibbed and the man has not. Just like the police, the Family Court is quite likely to decide that men are strong and so they can’t be frightened of the woman.

By: whanga

whanga — Fri, 16 May 2008 03:09:24 +0000

You are right Paul.Last time I visited the Auckland Cop Shop I was taken to an interview room with a TV.There was a cop already in there .Had his pants round his ankles.Jacking off to a porn vid!!Thats how busy they are at Auckland Central.The sergeant who took me in there did not even reprimand him.Just told him to get out.
One time 4 years ago I flew to Napier to see my kids I got a rental car.Cops were waiting for me at airport and followed me all around for about an hour.Little old me.Never touched or threatened anyone in my life.No convictions.Just a stupid Protection Order obtained 8 years previously through lies.I wound the bastards up by continually driving near my ex’s house though never on her street as apparently that is a no no.
The cops are busy.Yeah right

By: paul

paul — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:53:21 +0000

Hans you are a worry !!! 24 hours a day 7 days a week how many life treatening emergencies do you think happen ? and do really belive that 111 only has one telephone to answer the calls ? The police send out taxi’s to calls if they think their fish and chips will get cold !!

We have to fight protection orders by getting protection orders, every man should have a protection order against the rest of the population. It is the only way that we can show how pointless they are.

A protection order is only a legal method to allow the police to fuck you with out having to deal with things within the normal legal protocol. Once you have a protection order on you, your arse is theirs.

So we need a protection order register on this site, every one on joining should take out a protection order on the rest of the population. Protection orders can be taken out in many ways, such as emotional fear, abusive language, and basically any reason to cause stress, or fear.

I say get them now, while they are hot, upsize them if you can, they don’t cause overweight problems, and you can get as many as you like. I used to collect stickers and coins as a kid, but now I collect protection orders. Hey and you can swap them with your friends, sell them on trade me if you like. Protection orders they are the new trend. Get them now from your local court.

Ps I believe that auckland caught has a special on at the moment, yes buy one now and get one free. Two protection orders for the price of one !! order now and also get a free set of steak knifes, a free tape of the best of “nagging woman” limited edition ! and a self closing toilet seat ( just watch out for the nadds boys ).

So get in there a get those protection orders, free legal aid is also available ( application required )

By: Hans Laven

Hans Laven — Fri, 16 May 2008 00:08:03 +0000

By the way, I would not advise either a boycott or phoning 111. A boycott would matter little to the Family Court who would simply dispose of all matters conveniently by ruling in favour of the female applicants. Phoning 111 to make a political point is irresponsible towards those who need urgent help, is likely to lead to criminal charges such as misusing a telephone, and could even lead to a conviction for more serious offences such as manslaughter.

By: Hans Laven

Hans Laven — Fri, 16 May 2008 00:01:26 +0000

Whanga, thanks for presenting your own case history. It highlights something many people don’t realise. Protection Order legislation does not require any evidence whatsoever of any wrongdoing on the part of the respondent. An order can be granted, and as in your case maintained indefinitely, purely on the basis of a woman’s claim to feel frightened of the respondent. The idea that male respondents might effectively fight protection orders with good evidence is a hoax, as long as the woman applicant’s lawyer has ensured she includes a claim to “feel frightened”.

The Family Court is at total liberty to decide on whatever grounds it chooses to believe or not to believe anything they hear, and they will almost always believe a woman who claims she feels frightened. However, when a man makes the same claim the Family Court will almost always choose to disbelieve him. After all, the aims of the DVA were to provide women with unbridled power over children and total choice to get rid of fathers without losing those men’s financial contribution to their lifestyles. The Courts by and large operate the legislation as intended.

On a more general note, I have found the Family Court will often choose to believe everything a woman says even if some of what she has claimed has been proven to be dishonest (those particular lies will then be ignored rather than believed). Meanwhile the same Court will reject the veracity of almost everything the man says even though none of his evidence has ever been shown to be incorrect.

By: Hans Laven

Hans Laven — Thu, 15 May 2008 23:45:16 +0000

Hi xsryder. Why vote for National who have no policies aimed at protecting family units, much less men’s or fathers’ welfare? Vote for a party that unashamedly pushes such policies. Under MMP, That’s the best way of giving the message to the big parties.