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	<title>Comments on: Family Court Womens Refuge murder series 3</title>
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		<title>By: Men At Risk</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2009/family-court-womens-refuge-murder-series-3/comment-page-1/#comment-273131</link>
		<dc:creator>Men At Risk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true... and the other fact such arrogant girls don&#039;t understand is that, by doing such things they are ultimately screwing their own lives.  Once a girl starts having this attitude that she can do anything to a boy with the HELP of law she would end up doing the same thing again and again and again and ultimately by the time she realizes she is left alone in this world!!!  

They don&#039;t understand that the Law is not actually helping them but screwing their lives....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true&#8230; and the other fact such arrogant girls don&#8217;t understand is that, by doing such things they are ultimately screwing their own lives.  Once a girl starts having this attitude that she can do anything to a boy with the HELP of law she would end up doing the same thing again and again and again and ultimately by the time she realizes she is left alone in this world!!!  </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t understand that the Law is not actually helping them but screwing their lives&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2009/family-court-womens-refuge-murder-series-3/comment-page-1/#comment-272903</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, It&#039;s the ones&#039; that wreck it for us. MOST boys and girls are lovely. But alot of them have fallen into this sexist boy/girl dominancy. In one book in my libraries sociology dept. someone has written &quot;just another w****er&quot; in the front coverof a book called: Back to Patriachy! I hope the had actually read the book, and understood where it may be going.

I don&#039;t blame girls or boys for continued swinging feminist/chauvanist sexism, but the mass media, and commercial generalised radio. And what happened to the acknowledgement of the bnet stations, Channel Green and Channel Z? Or has do we have to remind each other of who Nirvana, Deftones and At the Drive In et al are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, It&#8217;s the ones&#8217; that wreck it for us. MOST boys and girls are lovely. But alot of them have fallen into this sexist boy/girl dominancy. In one book in my libraries sociology dept. someone has written &#8220;just another w****er&#8221; in the front coverof a book called: Back to Patriachy! I hope the had actually read the book, and understood where it may be going.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame girls or boys for continued swinging feminist/chauvanist sexism, but the mass media, and commercial generalised radio. And what happened to the acknowledgement of the bnet stations, Channel Green and Channel Z? Or has do we have to remind each other of who Nirvana, Deftones and At the Drive In et al are?</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Battered men are as numerous as battered women
 
It appears both sexes are equally scrumptious when battered lightly and cooked in frying pan on high heat.  Add salt and pepper, serve battered men and women up with side salad and fries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Battered men are as numerous as battered women</p>
<p>It appears both sexes are equally scrumptious when battered lightly and cooked in frying pan on high heat.  Add salt and pepper, serve battered men and women up with side salad and fries.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://menz.org.nz/2009/family-court-womens-refuge-murder-series-3/comment-page-1/#comment-272705</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone, it&#039;s me again. Uni is going well andi am enjoying it.

NO OFFENCE INTENDED...

This is the thing that exercises my point. If a boy or man commits a murder, they are locked up for ever, fair enough though. But when a girl or women does the same thing they are given psychological help and a lowered sentence. Girls are told to be empowered but sexy at the same time, they want sexual promiscuity but moan at boys&#039; at the same time. When Celia Lashlie wrote her book about boys&#039; growing up (He&#039;ll be okay) she wanted to say that there needs to be positive boy power as well as girl-power, insteed she was moaned at by people saying &quot;why isn&#039;t there an equivilant for girls&quot;?

Here is the reason why, there are TONS of coping with preganacy for girls&#039; and feminist rights and girls are est books. Girls rape too, girls sometimes force sex on thier partner just for sympathy, and why are boys always potrayed negatively in the media? because it is the ones&#039; wrecking it for the others. If all men are rapists, does that man you&#039;r father,brother,uncle,grandfather,teacher,associate(s) is/are one too?

if you want your girl-power then start with the boys, please, we are not all raping pigs. Stop falling into the extreemist hypocritical media-fuelled feminism, and make up yourown mind. You want a loving relationship right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone, it&#8217;s me again. Uni is going well andi am enjoying it.</p>
<p>NO OFFENCE INTENDED&#8230;</p>
<p>This is the thing that exercises my point. If a boy or man commits a murder, they are locked up for ever, fair enough though. But when a girl or women does the same thing they are given psychological help and a lowered sentence. Girls are told to be empowered but sexy at the same time, they want sexual promiscuity but moan at boys&#8217; at the same time. When Celia Lashlie wrote her book about boys&#8217; growing up (He&#8217;ll be okay) she wanted to say that there needs to be positive boy power as well as girl-power, insteed she was moaned at by people saying &#8220;why isn&#8217;t there an equivilant for girls&#8221;?</p>
<p>Here is the reason why, there are TONS of coping with preganacy for girls&#8217; and feminist rights and girls are est books. Girls rape too, girls sometimes force sex on thier partner just for sympathy, and why are boys always potrayed negatively in the media? because it is the ones&#8217; wrecking it for the others. If all men are rapists, does that man you&#8217;r father,brother,uncle,grandfather,teacher,associate(s) is/are one too?</p>
<p>if you want your girl-power then start with the boys, please, we are not all raping pigs. Stop falling into the extreemist hypocritical media-fuelled feminism, and make up yourown mind. You want a loving relationship right?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They lie in family court etc anyway with or without, before or after a protection order. It is always up to the father to prove why he should be and wants to be in the childrens lives, how mental is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They lie in family court etc anyway with or without, before or after a protection order. It is always up to the father to prove why he should be and wants to be in the childrens lives, how mental is that?</p>
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		<title>By: sol</title>
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		<dc:creator>sol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with you.  I add, once they see how successful they are in getting the protection order it prompts them to lie to family court, child support etc..  Protection Orders teach these women to hate us rather than love us.  The result is lots of money for courts, child support, police, attorneys etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you.  I add, once they see how successful they are in getting the protection order it prompts them to lie to family court, child support etc..  Protection Orders teach these women to hate us rather than love us.  The result is lots of money for courts, child support, police, attorneys etc.</p>
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		<title>By: SicKofNZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SicKofNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I have always felt that women use these orders to instigate rather than to protect&lt;/em&gt;

My ex-wife (of 7 years ago)will admit that I&#039;ve never been violent towards her. How did she manage to get a Protection Order against me then? Because they pass them out freely if you have the approved genitalia. My ex-wife has at least FIVE Protection Orders against her separate victims. 

Abusive, violent and controlling women KNOW that they can have ultimate Power &amp; Control over their partner by lying to right people.

Too often Protection Orders are sought to further abuse their targeted victim. A Protection Order is a tool that is used to punish men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I have always felt that women use these orders to instigate rather than to protect</em></p>
<p>My ex-wife (of 7 years ago)will admit that I&#8217;ve never been violent towards her. How did she manage to get a Protection Order against me then? Because they pass them out freely if you have the approved genitalia. My ex-wife has at least FIVE Protection Orders against her separate victims. </p>
<p>Abusive, violent and controlling women KNOW that they can have ultimate Power &amp; Control over their partner by lying to right people.</p>
<p>Too often Protection Orders are sought to further abuse their targeted victim. A Protection Order is a tool that is used to punish men.</p>
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		<title>By: sol</title>
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		<dc:creator>sol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always felt that women use these orders to instigate rather than to protect.  No female sees a protection order as a means to protect herself, its a tool for character assassination.

in fact if one considers the procedure of protection orders and the violation thereof one can quickly see that no physical protection is made available to anyone only punishment to an offender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always felt that women use these orders to instigate rather than to protect.  No female sees a protection order as a means to protect herself, its a tool for character assassination.</p>
<p>in fact if one considers the procedure of protection orders and the violation thereof one can quickly see that no physical protection is made available to anyone only punishment to an offender.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Laven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans Laven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could have put this quote anywhere, and this being as good a place as any, I hope it might inspire some here to keep speaking up.    

“It is very difficult now to understand the atmosphere of intolerance and fear which then surrounded the issue.…I was very often a lone voice. I was often congratulated on my courage by people who did not dare to raise their own voices. I felt nervous myself. There was genuine fear about the consequences of speaking out. Whatever I may once have innocently believed, I learnt long ago never to believe the pious claim of liberals that they ‘disagree with what I say but will fight to the death for my right to say it’. By and large ~ there are honourable exceptions, certainly ~ I have found caring persons of advanced liberal views to be among the most intolerant and unpleasant of our fellow-citizens, and all too ready to resort to personal abuse and character assassination.…The atmosphere has changed. The public now does not hesitate to criticise foolish, ill-considered…proposals… Caring tolerant non-judgmental people still unthinkingly label the public as…rednecks, but that cheap personal abuse has long been discredited.”

David Round (law lecturer, University of Canterbury)
“Reflections on the Treaty”
NZ Centre for Political Research, Guest Forum 26 June 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could have put this quote anywhere, and this being as good a place as any, I hope it might inspire some here to keep speaking up.    </p>
<p>“It is very difficult now to understand the atmosphere of intolerance and fear which then surrounded the issue.…I was very often a lone voice. I was often congratulated on my courage by people who did not dare to raise their own voices. I felt nervous myself. There was genuine fear about the consequences of speaking out. Whatever I may once have innocently believed, I learnt long ago never to believe the pious claim of liberals that they ‘disagree with what I say but will fight to the death for my right to say it’. By and large ~ there are honourable exceptions, certainly ~ I have found caring persons of advanced liberal views to be among the most intolerant and unpleasant of our fellow-citizens, and all too ready to resort to personal abuse and character assassination.…The atmosphere has changed. The public now does not hesitate to criticise foolish, ill-considered…proposals… Caring tolerant non-judgmental people still unthinkingly label the public as…rednecks, but that cheap personal abuse has long been discredited.”</p>
<p>David Round (law lecturer, University of Canterbury)<br />
“Reflections on the Treaty”<br />
NZ Centre for Political Research, Guest Forum 26 June 2009</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I read about a murder in the papers , i EXPECT it to mention &quot;Domestic&quot; and &quot;Protection Order&quot;. Do they really expect ALL men to just meakly leave their kids ? These idiot corrupt politicians and their police pawns, have caused thousands of deaths worldwide by these laws, WHAT DO THEY REALLY EXPECT ? 
If a HIGH number of men did this, faced with the TERROR of such laws, SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I read about a murder in the papers , i EXPECT it to mention &#8220;Domestic&#8221; and &#8220;Protection Order&#8221;. Do they really expect ALL men to just meakly leave their kids ? These idiot corrupt politicians and their police pawns, have caused thousands of deaths worldwide by these laws, WHAT DO THEY REALLY EXPECT ?<br />
If a HIGH number of men did this, faced with the TERROR of such laws, SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE !</p>
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