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Thu 19th November 2009

Men’s movement in the UK

Filed under: General,Law & Courts,Sex Abuse / CYF — Julie @ 12:00 am

UK males are speaking up well on the biased treatment through feminists and their supporters. They have become such a loud voice that the media has been attacked persistently and consistently by large numbers of them, forcing the media to open ‘Pandora’s box’ and speak up about the abuse males receive from females. The greatest attack has been around sexual false rape allegations from women.

In 2000 police and criminologists were developing a “lie-detector” test to help uncover false allegations of rape.

In the new test, a claimant’s statement is analysed and points are given from a list of set clues – people who have made up a rape allegation get a low score, while genuine complaints get a high score.

Using this technique in two studies, police officers and researchers had a success rate of between 72 and 100 per cent in identifying genuine rape victims from liars. All the cases were real-life examples selected because of the existence of strong evidence, such as closed-circuit television footage, to prove the defendants’ guilt or innocence.

The two pieces of research indicate that police officers who rely on their detective skills and intuition when examining a statement by an alleged rape victim are no better than a member of the public at identifying a genuine complainant from a false one.


Wow! So in other words, what police are taught is what police will do. I wonder how that is working when police are persuaded through feminist policy and procedure?

Moving on, …. from these tests researchers involved found three major functions for the complainants making false rape accusations: providing an alibi, seeking revenge, and obtaining sympathy and attention.

A woman who made eight separate false claims of rape or sexual assault as long ago as 2002, admitted in a statement to police that she was ‘seeking attention’ from them.

A young woman cried rape after ‘fulfilling a fantasy’ of having sex with two strangers. Chloe Dolton, 22, was ‘bored’ with her life and willingly engaged in the threesome after an argument with her boyfriend. A jury heard she had previously expressed her sexual fantasies in a diary, in which she wrote: ‘I am in crisis. I am so bored of my life and need a miracle’.

A 19-year-old Lehigh University student, Brielynne Neumann, of Shrewsbury, Mass., was lying in the centre of Parkhill Street at 11:49 p.m. when police approached her. She identified herself as Brei Scano and gave a fake date of birth. The lie backfired when police took her to her sorority house to verify her identity. Neumann then told officers she had been raped the day before by a man who claimed to be a Lehigh University police officer. She admitted that she made the whole thing up as her excuse for why she acted the way she did.

Julie Renouf, 34, falsely accused a man of rape because she was ashamed at having betrayed her husband. Another woman accused her defence lawyer of rape after she was convicted of falsely accusing a female solicitor of sexual misconduct.

For many, many reports of False Rape Charges see The false rape society
and for a list of international links to newspaper articles see Antimisandry .

Over the past few years men have had enough and have started to fight back. Especially with rape NGOs pressuring politicians, police and judges to find more men guilty of rape and making it easier for women to get away with false allegations.

The men want to have anonymity while accusations are investigated and court trials in process because it destroys their life.

Anonymity for men in rape cases was removed in 1988 when the Conservatives bowed to police arguments that it acted as a deterrent to reporting rape. In a trade-off between the two front benches, a woman’s right to anonymity was extended from the time of charge to when she first made the complaint, while the alleged rapist lost the right not to be identified.

Twelve years later Home Office figures show that removing an accused rapist’s anonymity has not put more men behind bars. In fact, rape convictions have fallen from 24 per cent in 1985 to 9 per cent in 1997.

Men want the women who accuse false rape to be held accountable for a man convicted falsely of rape faces a sentence of life imprisonment, whereas the false rape accusers are free to do it again and again.

They also want names of women who falsely accuse men of rape published so other men are warned from associating with these women.

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At the same time acknowledgement of female rapists exists in the media at present thanks to the voices of men and their supporters.

An expert on female sex offenders has warned against parents
becoming “hyper-vigilant” in response to recent high-profile child
abuse cases.

Dr Theresa Gannon – senior lecturer in forensic psychology at
the University of Kent – says society risks coming to a standstill
if people become so cautious they feel unable to trust anybody
with their children.

Her comments follow the recent conviction of nursery worker Vanessa George and revelations from Childline.

Over the past five years, the charity group ‘childline’ says the number of female rapist calls has risen five times faster than youngsters reporting abuse by a man.

Of 16,094 children who called Childline about sex abuse last year, 2,142 told of abuse by a woman, up 132% on 2004-5.

Men still account for the majority of child abuse claims, but the NSPCC said female sex abuse was under-reported.

7 Responses to “Men’s movement in the UK”

  1. Jum says:

    I want men who are accused rapists to be forced to take the stand and be asked questions to ascertain their characters just as the rape survivor is forced to. That did not happen in the Louise Nicholas rape case and we all know they were guilty and the jury might have been able to come to a different result if they could have heard the accused speak on the stand.

    As for your touting of this latest humiliation for the already devastated rape survivor, the number of rapists that never even make it to court is a thousandfold compared to the individual cases quoted here about stupid, weak, frightened, unempowered women who always put back the process, for decades, for the right to fair treatment for those women who actually are subjected to power attacks in the areas that are most private to them.

    When that fairness is achieved for women at the hands of men and at the hands of society (men and women) who judge women as being always the ones to blame for dressing in fashion, hanging out the washing, leaving a window open, stepping outside their home, sleeping in their own bed alone… then I’ll have some sympathy for men. That will probably take as long as it takes for men to take responsibility for their own actions.

    Pay Inequity infers women are of less value than men. Just another indication that suggests to men in general/beaters and rapists in particular that they have the right to control/destroy women and children’s lives.

    This lie detector crap is just another attack on women to keep them from seeking justice. Shame on this website for pushing for that instead of pushing for men to keep their pants zipped and to wear condoms to lower the abortion rate. Why is it that despite the fact that two people are involved in sex it is always the woman who takes the blame and the man who won’t accept the responsibility.

    Any amount of generality in my comments are certainly matched and exceeded by the comments against women on your site.

    Also, re sexual abuse by women on children always has a starting base in history by a man sexually abusing a woman. The responsibility is still on men to take charge of their own natures and stop trying to invent new ways to destroy women and children and then blaming them for it.

  2. noconfidence says:

    This site allows for free speech, unlike other feminazi sites. You are entitled to your views, though I suspect most men AND women would consider your views as being ‘extremism’. I strive for equality between men and women as do most people on this site.
    ‘This lie detector crap is just another attack on women to keep them from seeking justice. Shame on this website for pushing for that instead of pushing for men to keep their pants zipped and to wear condoms to lower the abortion rate.’

    Don’t you want the guilty parties to be identified ? Do you believe that all women that plead rape are actually telling the truth ? You know that is not true and such people should be treated as rapists themselves as their actions are as bad.
    As for men keeping their pants zipped.. ummm… it takes 2 you know ! And these days, women wear trousers too…

    I hope you see the positives that happen on this site as we strive to ensure our Taonga, our tamariki, are loved by both parents where that is possible.

  3. SicKofNZ says:

    I want men who are accused rapists to be forced…

    I want to force you to mount your broomstick and fly back out of here. We all want things we’re not going to get. Deal with it and your crazy feminist extremist inspired bullsh!t!
    You help reassure me that Big Pharma’s plans to eventually test all women for mental illness might have merit.

  4. I guess majority of the sexual abuse allegations put up by females especially in a relation are to take revenge on their partner. That was what happened at least in my case as well. And, family court has given a judgment in favor of her with literally zero evidence from her. Family court has given the judgment looking at both our faces and expressions. Lolz I guess I should have asked John Travolta to represent me as he could have given much better expressions than I did and the Honorable Judge could have given the judgment in my favor!

    First of all the Feminist people who sit there for giving judgments in such sexual abuse cases should be pulled down and people who have not biased on either gender should be made to sit to give judgments. Life of men is not considered of any value by such feminists. I guess even NZ men should wake up and raise their voice against the legal abuse against men. India, US, UK and I guess even Australian men have already identified the amount of abuse men are facing due to women and even the governments have started to realize the abuse against men.

  5. Larry says:

    ‘Jum’wrote: “Pay Inequity infers women are of less value than men. Just another indication that suggests to men in general/beaters and rapists in particular that they have the right to control/destroy women and children’s lives.”

    This just shows what a brainless, feminist bigot you really are. Pay equity is a feminist myth. Differences in pay have nothing to do with gender and there is nothing that prevents a woman from pursuing any career, business or enterprise she chooses. Destroying children’s lives is overwhelmingly a woman’s prerogative as women are much more likely to end marriages and much more likely to prevent children from accessing their father. You also mentioned ‘beaters’. Women are much more likely to physically abuse children and they also abuse men at about the same rate as some men abuse women.

  6. mits says:

    Wow someone sure has issues.

    stupid, weak, frightened, unempowered women
    When that fairness is achieved for women

    Some pretty big issues under the surface here. Victim mentality………
    And then this old chestnut
    Pay Inequity infers women are of less value than men. Just another indication that suggests to men in general/beaters and rapists in particular that they have the right to control/destroy women and children’s lives
    What is this job here in New Zealand that people with the same experience and abilities get paid differently soley on their gender???
    I keep asking but it never gets answered.

  7. Paul says:

    What psychiatric unit are you in? Best you stay there. Safer for all.

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