Why men are happier; a christmas jolly…
Since I’ve been on Menz there is alot of near hopelessness and sometimes the odd bit of good news. It’s important to remember that we should be proud to be men and work together better.
As it’s near Christmas I wanted to make at least some of you have a smile, maybe a little laugh. All the best to you all out there, whoever you are.
Why men are happier than women….
What do you expect from such simple creatures? Your last name stays put. The garage is all yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another snack. You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth. The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another gas station restroom because this one is just too icky. You don’t have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add character. Wedding dress $5000. Tux rental-$100.
People never stare at your chest when you’re talking to them. The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don’t cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.
Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks. A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness. If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.
Your underwear is $9.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original colour . The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. You only have to shave your face and neck.
You can play with toys all your life. Your belly usually hides your big hips. One wallet and one pair of shoes — one colour for all seasons.
You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look. You can “do” your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice concerning growing a moustache.
You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.
No wonder men are happier.
Merry Christmas to you all.
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“Union of Fathers is about supporting parents”
And this is fundamentally where we have to disagree Allan. I believe that what there needs to be is a group supporting fathers,
I respect your position and applaud you on your achievements but cant accept a statement like
“I know John P encourages anonymous contributions here but my thoughts are who the hell are you and John Dutchie etc.” without redress
In your position you, more than anyone, should be aware of the need for annonimity in an open forum for some of the people posting here.
And while I in no way want to make light of your achievements and victories in extensive parlimentary submissions, extensive lobbying, policy development, cases in Court etc.
I have to tell you that for over eleven years now I have been caught up in this system and despite all the rhetoric I havent seen any changes for the better. I have had my own personal victories and setbacks along the way but as far as Parliment or the various “social agencies” that foisted themselves upon my family and me, nope sorry eleven years, and nothing has changed.
‘The reason most people are not members of UoF is their wallets are more precious to them than the issues we campaign and work on. ‘
Here John Dutchie and I disagree. I find this comment deeply offensive It is so similar to the line touted so regularly by the feminists and predominantly mother custodial parents that,
“the only reason men fight against child support is that their wallets are more precious to them than their kids.”
Again I would have thought that a person in your position have been aware that a statement like that is inflamatory to say the least.
So to quote myself “I think thats the reason Im not a member of UoF”
But I wish you all the best for the New Year
Cheers
Mits
I see a group of people sniping from behind an assumed and critisisising a person who has arguably done more to help men that the lot of you so uncertain of your selves you hide your names.
I personally rate your credibility as low. There are “Hidden” groups> These achieve more than simply slagging off one of our stalwarts.
Thank you from me Allan
Alistair, you must try to be more specific rather than, YET AGAIN, taking a swipe at those who choose to use an assumed name here. It’s just not fair to those who you ‘might not’ be targeting. I get kissed off every time you do this. It’s within the rules of this site.
If you don’t like it, the solution is in your hands!
Alistair, for your information Allan has my FULL name, address and phone number. We’ve spoken to each other on the phone. Why do you persist with your bad attitude towards those who are following the site rules here. Maybe it is YOU who needs to make some adjustment?
Alistair said – “I see a group of people sniping from behind an assumed and critisisising a person who has arguably done more to help men that the lot of you so uncertain of your selves you hide your names”
Bulls _ _ _ _!
I’m one of those using an assumed name rather than my own.
I’m absolutely certain of myself.
I’m certain that using my real name will make me a target for feminists who’ll want to damage me one way or another for criticizing their cult.
As for ufo Allen arguably having done more to help men that the lot of you. You simply have no idea what collectively we’ve done to support men’s rights in the face of feminist onslaught.
Well didn’t I step on some guilty conscionces! Skeptic – Who is “We”
SicKofNZ, First – Please check your spelling!
Thank you for that reference, it will undoubtedly alter my attitude to you!
I WILL not be altering my attitude to anonymous posters in general. I accept your reasons, Unfortunately I am left with the possibility that cowardice is one!
Grow up!
My speeling iz fine fanks. I don’t write to please people such as you. Suddenly it is YOU who has a credibility problem.
Maybe the site administrator needs to inform you of the rules YET AGAIN. It’s not the first time is it?
“guilty conscionces”
This from the man who goes on to implore – “SicKofNZ, First – Please check your spelling!”
Absolutely precious!
We are the many I’ve known who collectively butted our heads against an intransigent brick wall made up of misandry and misplaced chivalry in NZ for many years.
I’m pleased to say I’ve enjoyed a Christmas far away from NZ and therefore been able to relax rather than yet again face the stupid, tedious yet potentially devestating approbrium of vixatious feminists and their sympathisers in NZ.
I realised after posting that Alastair meant to draw attention to me spelling his username incorrectly. Point taken. I’ve spelled it correctly this time.
The ridiculous attack on those who disagree with the ideology of another is gob-smacking. Feminism to me meant the imminent deaths of my children at the hand of their mother while I was left powerless to prevent it or to get help to prevent it. To criticise me for abhorring feminism, especially under the circumstances that I endured, reveals a shallow thinking individual in my opinion. To then suggest a reprieve after gaining a little insight smacks of idiocy with a false sense of his own status in life. Alastair’s opinions have become irrelevant to me.
I wonder if there are local women’s group representatives who are Saying anti-female statements like Allan here Is saying against men. You can bet your bottom dollar they don’t . No wonder we are having such troubles
I have been watching you two. If you put as much energy into supporting men, instead of crucifying those who try to help we would be in a much better place.
I’m disgusted with the pair of you!
Ok.. I will say it one time and no more.
You have successfully created a bunfight between various active parties of the mens movement. I say ‘you’ without specifying who; I don’t think I need to.
Goodness sake; cut the crap and concentrate on the facts. You guys have a difference of opinion. That’s what a forum like this is for. Accept it and move on. I have found the whole thing enlightening as it has given me some idea as to why the mens movement is stuck in the 19th century.
Feminazi, feminists, equality.
They mean different things. Move on. The point of this post was to identify that ‘we’ men need to embrace the positives in life. Some post it turned out to be eh!
I would ask that postings on this topic cease unless it is actually ON topic.. ie.. positive news…
Who are you to make that statement? Jim Bailey? A Gatekeeper?
Read the rules. I have already contacted JohnP with regard to the damage you guys are doing.
Since you all need reminding what the rules are…..
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I have been attacked on this forum by people that lacked the courage to use their real names, seemingly for refusing to support the republican party in the last election.
No disrespect intended here, but in poltics anonymity equals a lack of credibility, and if you are really terrified of your political opponents knowing who you are, then you should not really be in politics.
Ironically, most followers of this list, including your political opponents, probably have a pretty good whom most of you are anyway.
Daryl,
Bullshit.
Credibility comes from spreading truth, not on having one’s name known.
Do you know who Angry Harry is?
No.
Neither do millions of others who go to the Angry Harry website to be educated.
So you reckon political opponents have a pretty good idea who anonymous posters are.
Whoopdeedoo.
They can’t harm you where they can’t find you.
This is the internet age. I could be writing this from Nova Scotio or Beijing or …. anywhere on earth basically.
Ever considered going ex-pat?
The social and emotional air out here in civilised parts of the globe is wonderful without the putrid stink of female supremacism aka feminism.
Using a cloak of anonymity to attach those that think differently is cowardice of the highest order and shows a complete lack of credibility
I think there needs to be a clear understanding of what constitutes an attack on someone’s person and what constitutes a difference of opinion, or even an attack against those opinions. Although I’m replying to your post, I’m not forming any view of your particular use of the labels ‘cowardice’ and ‘lack of credibility’ or whether they’re warranted or not. There just seems to be a lot of negative labeling of those who post here using a username that differs from the one listed on our birth certificates. Men receive too much negative labeling from the feminist extremists without any of us helping them don’t you think?
Although I’d love to use my real name here I’m certainly not going to while there is a very real risk of a visit from the Police. Marry my ex-wife for a better understanding of my stance. I’m sure everyone has their individual reasons for using anonymous usernames and I would doubt those reasons are for the purpose of attacking anyone here although there are bound to be exceptions.
This site risks becoming exclusive rather than inclusive if anonymous posters begin to feel restricted with posting their own ideas or challenging the ideas of others. Once I feel restricted I leave and never return. Ask Badly-behaved@CYFSwatch for confirmation of that.
Please quit with the labeling and debate the issues!
Personally the only thing that turn me off more than false names is swearing!
I meant “attack”, not “attach”…
Since this discussion has degenerated to the point where it serves no useful purpose other than to illustrate why the NZ men’s movement remains so disunited, I am closing the comments on this post here.
For better or for worse, MENZ is one of the most accessible public sources of information about male issues in this country, so all contributers are responsible for the image we collectively portray.
I am well aware that many people have good reasons for remaining anonymous, and they will continue to be welcome to post and comment on MENZ.