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Men’s rights issues and videos

Thu 8th July 2010

I came across a couple of interesting short videos on the net that echo the message men give through writing on this site and thought “Hey, cool”.

This one (below) is about men choosing surrogacy to become fathers rather than risk losing their children when a mother is involved.

And this one (below) is about women abusing men and society’s perception of it. It shows how women have permission in society to abuse men and how women even cheer it on.

The video above is disturbing as well as interesting and I think it’s important to look at where men can turn for help when in an abusive relationship. It’s best men don’t phone women’s hotlines for advice on who to contact because they’ll just refer you to anger management classes where men are blamed for the violence. The video shows how women believe men deserve it and this attitude is prevalent in New Zealand.

Maybe some viewers might know where men can turn. I’d like to say a men’s centre but not all men centres accept an abused man to be a victim and those that do can’t get funding to be open decent hours. The police are not worth contacting because our laws say police can make a judgement on what to do but then feminist policy comes along and tells them how to think. Men are automatically imprisoned unless the abuse is soooo bad, like the man is near dead, but then the woman will be taken somewhere like a women’s refuge where she can’t be touched by the law as a perpetrator. Much like the churches used to be safe havens.

It’s a sick world!!! And bad days for men to live.

Anyways, maybe you know where men can turn, or maybe you have another interesting video to share or a comment about the 2 videos above. Please leave a comment.

28 Responses to “Men’s rights issues and videos”

  1. julie says:

    Here is another great video. I spoke with a women on facebook about Canada and feminism and it’s no different over there than here. I’ve heard from a women’s refuge in Auckland that they took part in an International Women’s Refuge workshop in Canada and they were stunned how man-hating it was.

    If you place a video on this site it could be a good idea make the size roughly: object width=”450″ height=”300″ for comments and no more than width “480” height “385” for posts. JohnP: 320px wide please.

  2. glenn says:

    I find it really interesting that there are soooo many fragments of stuff all over the place which so eloquently depict the lot of blokes throughout the Western world. And yet, where it matters, there are no ears. It may be because of personal interest, possibly, but it apppears to me that the pendulum is beginning to swing. I sure hope so.

    Thanks Julie for being such a stalwart, along with many others on here. G.

  3. julie says:

    Hi Glenn, I like your comment. I also like the word ‘stalwart’. (I had to look it up).

    These videos came from the ‘others’ you thanked. They placed two of them on another site and I thought I’d place them here. Yeah, I guess that’s also being part of the cause. 😉 So thanks too.

  4. tren Christchurch says:

    You are right Julie,
    NZ, compared to Canada, is a safe haven.
    But do not worry we will catch up. NZ does not lead, it follows.

  5. skeptik says:

    Julie, Great work getting this video up.
    Would you or someone else please share how that’s done step by step?

    Here’s a recent documentary by BBC of all people entitled ‘Who needs fathers? – Missing Dad’.
    it’s this kind of thing I’d like to embed into threads occasionally.

  6. skeptik says:

    Sorry Julie,
    it seems the series of videos on Father’s plight has been taken down by youtube.
    However it is here instead.

  7. Jessie says:

    If I was with a woman she’d wonder what was happening
    Little things would slowly go askew

    If I was with a woman I’d make her quite unhappy
    specially if she did not want me to

    If I was with a woman I’d make believe I loved her
    when all the time I would not like her much

    If I was with a womans she’d soon become unsettled
    I’d show her but I would not let her touch

    If I was with a woman I’d never ask her questions
    but if she did not want me to I would

    If I was with a woman I’d offer my indifference
    and make quite sure she never understood

    If I was with a woman I’d threaten to unload her
    every time she asked me to explain

    If I was with a woman she’d have to learn to cherish
    the purity and depth of my distain

    I’ve been with a woman – she took away my spirit
    no womans coming close to me again.

    Ian Dury- Forward thinker.

  8. rc says:

    I find it really interesting that there are soooo many fragments of stuff all over the place which so eloquently depict the lot of blokes throughout the Western world. And yet, where it matters, there are no ears.

    The Andy Haden spectacle tells you everything you need to know. There are no ears because public discussion has been forbidden. Victims of female extortion are collateral damage, apparently justified by the greater cause of never doubting a woman’s word in matters sexual. This deference to a lady’s honour, which allows men to have their reputations and their lives destroyed with nothing more than a pointed finger, is so absurd it’s almost comical. We’ll be challenging each other to duelling at dawn with pistols next.

  9. julie says:

    Would you or someone else please share how that’s done step by step?

    Sure!

    1. When you find something you like, copy and paste the embeded code into your comment. For the videos you picked on antimisandry, you left click and pick ’embeded code’ from the drop down menu. On youtube it’s one of the small boxes under the video.

    JohnP: you need to ask me to grant you permission the first time.

    2. After you past the code you need to change the size of the video screen so it fits on the site. Most have this inside the emdeded code, object width=”640″ height=”385″. You need to change the width and height. Sometimes it’s in 2 places so you have to change them both.

    JohnP: Change the settings before you copy the code: as in this screenshot.

    Is this helpful?

  10. julie says:

    Neat! Protecting yourself is a favoured option.

  11. Dave says:

    If you earnt as much as Ranaldo you’d me a mug NOT to have your children by surrogacy.

  12. julie says:

    Sometimes, it has to be smaller still, and sometimes it can be something else.

    Do you want to try … say, 200 * 200? There can be 2 places you have to make changes sometimes.

    If you can’t get it working, can you provide the link so we can help you figure it out?

  13. julie says:

    Weird! I had trouble getting it right. Can you provide the link in words? Maybe take out the object word and leave the rest.

  14. Skeptik says:

    thanks,
    here’s the link.
    it’s your old buddy Angry Harry –

    http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=uwxgavf2xWE

  15. julie says:

    Angry Harry is a handsome man!

    I’m just wondering if logging in might help.

  16. Skeptik says:

    Julie,
    I don’t get what you mena by “it works for me’ as I don’t see the Angry harry video yet embedded on this therad.
    However, One more try following the suggestion as per your post #15 –

    object width=”300? height=”300?

    allowfullscreen=”true” width=”300? height=”300?>

    Here goes ……

  17. Skeptik says:

    Jeeeeeeeeeze.
    Back to the drawing board – in the meantime if anyone else has any suggestions on how to solve this please post them.

  18. julie says:

    Oh noooo! I don’t get what’s going on. Maybe John has to do something to help you.

    In the meantime, ….. This video is a great choice and it’s already up on this site. Do you want it put up again under this post?

  19. JohnPotter says:

    Hi Skeptik – to to post videos you need to be (a) logged in, and (b) have explicit permission from me – which you should now have.

  20. Skeptik says:

    Thank-you JP.
    I’ll look into it further.

  21. julie says:

    Skeptic, now that you are on the elite list, hehehe, I look forward to seeing some awesome videos coming through.

    I didn’t know there was a need for permission but I can understand that on a site that is open to the public,(like this one) it’s needed.

  22. Skeptik says:

    Julie,
    Not so fast.
    It’s an honor to be given permission to post videos onto threads, but there’s another issue I have with the process.
    So I’m not there yet.
    The issue is that if I log in then I have to include an e-mail address right?
    That in turn tells those who view the e-mail address who ‘Skeptik’ is right?
    I’m aware that with my very honest writing on the MENZ site from the safe position of being an ex-pat I’ve pissed allot of feminist people off.
    Then as payback should I choose to visit NZ I may get targeted for death by a thousand feminist cuts as I did last time I was in NZ .
    Not an attractive prospect.
    Perhaps better to keep things as they are.

  23. julie says:

    The issue is that if I log in then I have to include an e-mail address right?

    When you log-in you give your username and password.

    That in turn tells those who view the e-mail address who ‘Skeptik’ is right?

    You can already see your address. How do you think I’ve been able to email females who post on this site?

    But you’ve got me thinking because I use the same wordpress set-up on my site.

    I’m aware that with my very honest writing on the MENZ site from the safe position of being an ex-pat I’ve pissed allot of feminist people off.

    How do you become aware of this?

  24. Skeptik says:

    Julie,
    I’ve lived in NZ long enough to know that there are many many careerist feminists.
    They may not call themselves feminists but that is what they are in essence.
    When we criticize the ideology which underpins their material wealth then you can be sure they will feel threatened, and a certain number of them will act in a vengeful manner.
    NZ is already a very isolated place geographically a great distance from other nations.
    It only has a population of 4 million which is the size of thousands of cities like Manchester in UK or Sydney in Australia. So it feels quite village-like in many respects……..and when the important people in the village turn against you and set the trend for others look out. You become aware of this by using your wits and noticing patterns of ostracizing and subtle and not so subtle vilifying behavior. Of course much of the time you face passive aggressiveness so your assailants won’t admit to your face they’re exacting revenge, but your reading of people’s socio-metrics, body language, voice tone and facial expression, your years of accumulated wisdom and your trusting your intuition tells you strongly something is off. Reality checking with trusted others from time to time helps allot too.
    Thanks for confirming that e-mail addresses are already available to subscribers at MENZ and thus to feminists who troll and monitor.
    If I ever were to return to NZ to visit I will be extra vigilant knowing so.

  25. julie says:

    Skeptic, Of course, I wasn’t thinking enough when I wrote my comment. Sometimes I forget how badly feminists can behave.

    I get away with lots and I can’t expect a man to be treated the same way.

    Maybe you need to make a new username and password.

  26. rc says:

    Skeptic,

    You might like to consider opening a new email account with gmail (top of the main Google page) specifically for publishing on the net. Obviously, you don’t need to include your name anywhere.

  27. Skeptik says:

    Thanks rc,
    I’m not sure I want to go down the road of opening yet another doodad to tinker with.
    I’m stretching into several different types of media software, studying, traveling and and trying to keep life simple so that I can achieve certain goals without juggling too many balls as it is.
    But it may come to be once I’ve had a good ponder.

  28. julie says:

    To Skeptic,

    I’m not sure I want to go down the road of opening yet another doodad to tinker with.

    You can also go to your profile and change your nickname. That’s what readers see – not your username, which you can’t change.

    I’m stretching into several different types of media software, studying, traveling and and trying to keep life simple so that I can achieve certain goals without juggling too many balls as it is.

    Is this for men’s issues? Does it mean you’re going to share some neat things in the nearish future?

    I hope so because I think you’d be up there with some of these other men who are considered pioneers.

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