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Sun 13th May 2012

The Ugly Face of Femaleism

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:10 pm

This has been a dark week for men in New Zealand with many influential people displaying ignorant misandry. Their comments show that they do not deserve to be in positions of influence.

The roller coaster was started with the government’s announced changes to our welfare system. These changes were based on the largely unenlightened recommendations made by Paula Rebstock’s Welfare Working Group. In particular, a proposal for WINZ staff to offer free contraception to DPB benefiaries elicited a moderate response including some feminist outrage that women should have to discuss such personal matters with WINZ staff. Then Colin Craig, leader of the Conservative Party quite correctly stated that research has shown NZ women are the most promiscuous in the world and he argued that other citizens should not be made responsible for this or made to facilitate or to encourage it. That’s when the dishonest and sinister nature of femaleism in NZ stood up for us all to see.

First, our prime minister knee-jerked that there was no evidence to support Colin Craig’s statement, and/or that he hadn’t seen any such evidence. Colin Craig specified two independent research studies that showed NZ women were either the first or second most promiscuous in the world, but this didn’t inspire Mr Key to retract his ignorant rebuttal. Other reports referred to a survey done by Marie Claire women’s magazine that found NZ women had the highest average number of sexual partners in the world. Further a NZ gyneacologist publicly expressed concerns about the large number of pregnant women he dealt with who could not remember whom they drunkenly had sex with to become pregnant. It’s worrying that Mr Key does not keep up with news, that he is unaware of what the rest of the world knows about New Zealand, and that he would make uninformed pronouncements without first getting his well-resourced research team to check out the facts.

Then numerous other politicians rode their white-knight horses to the defence of our women’s honour. Tariana Turia came out with the nonsensical claim that it was “outrageous to talk about the promiscuity of NZ women when they probably knew nothing about other countries”. Err, but Tariana, both studies quoted by Mr Craig compared self-reported sexual behaviour across many countries and NZ came out pretty well on top. Why on earth would Mr Craig refer to NZ women being the most promiscuous in the world if that didn’t involve some knowledge of other countries? She followed up her stupid comment with the claim that “We do try to operate on evidence and we don’t lie in the bedrooms of other people”. Well Tariana if you try to operate on evidence you might acknowledge what the available evidence says in this case. And while it may be true that the evidence was not gained by lying in the bedrooms of other people, plenty of that is obviously done by NZ women!

Mana leader Hone Harawira took a ganglands approach, suggesting NZ women should visit Mr Craig “and set him straight”. While I’m sure he would deny he meant anything sinister, his implication was clear. One recalls the group of feminists in the 1980′s who violently abducted, tarred and feathered an Auckland University lecturer because of allegations that he had seduced one or more students. Yeah right, go for it Hone e hoa, and you might also suggest that after NZ women have committed violence against Mr Craig they boil him up with a bit of puha.

Education Minister Hekia Parata said she was an aunt, a mother and a cousin and hadn’t found women to be more promiscuous in NZ. Well, that settles it then folks! Who needs to survey thousands of people when we only needed to ask Hekia?

Peter Dunnenothingformen described Mr Craig’s accurate comments as ‘nutty’. Just as nutty I suppose as all the fathers who have committed suicide after being finacially savaged by his so-called child support and unable to afford the costs of travel to see their own children.

NZ First leader Winston Peters said the fact Mr Key was open to a potential coalition with someone who had such a belief only showed how desperate National was. Yeah right Winston, beliefs based on large research studies are quite unacceptable and should be rejected out of hand. However, the beliefs you frequently used to spread about the undesirability of immigrants were clearly much more sound, and xenophobia is a much better basis for beliefs than science is.

Then Paula Bennett waded in with some good old male-blaming hate speech. Apparently the real issue is older men “preying on” young women. So it seems NZ women’s promiscuity is actually the fault of men. And she wasn’t sure that we “actually identify” the full extent of the problem in NZ with older men who fathered numerous children to various women and continued to ‘prey’ on younger women but couldn’t afford to support the resulting children. Apparently she has heard about this happening so that proves it, a huge problem that has not yet been identified by any social research. Oh well, no need to fret Paula, feminist advocacy researchers can soon fix that. Then she said Mr Craig’s comment was ridiculous and offensive, she used the words “quite old-fashioned views” and said she despaired at times and that “We’ve still got a long way to go.” Right you are Paula, you and your femaleist cronies do still have a long way to go to reach your utopia of men being blamed for everything women do, government manufacture of all knowledge, and censorship of any facts or opinions you find uncomfortable. A wee trip to China might afford you some new ideas and skills to this end.

Journalist Kerre Woodham waded in claiming that Mr Craig had insulted all kiwi women and that his comments were based on a Durex survey that was “hardly empirical evidence”. Well actually Ms Woodham, Mr Craig’s statement was based on several independent research studies and I doubt you have read them. The Durex company prides itself on the scientific rigour of its surveys that are a lot more sound than most feminst research. For example, I note you and other journalists have not seen fit to comment on frequent feminist claims such as these just today by Kim McGregor that one in four NZ girls experiences sexual violence before the age of 16 and that 99% of offenders get away with it because of low reporting and low conviction rates (and 93.7702% of statistics are made up on the spot!). Just check out the shoddy “advocacy research” methodology on which Ms McGregor’s outlandish claims are loosely based. For various reasons ranging from seeking funding, to general feminist sympathizing, to personal vendetta against men as a result of a bad experience, this feminist research was designed to generate only the ‘findings’ sought by the researchers. On the other hand the Durex company had no reason to manipulate its research in order to find NZ women rather than any other country’s women to be the winners.

The Herald on Sunday editorial today referred to the “very strange Colin Craig” and “some widely discredited research by a condom manufacturer”. Well Mr Editor, please refer us to the evidence that the Durex research was widely discredited, except by other local journalists who have never read it.

A number of other journalists such as John Armstrong suggested that hoards of ‘deadbeat dads’ abandon their partners and children and that is actually responsible for the high number of DPB beneficiaries, intergenerational DPB lifestyles and that proportion who continue to have babies to ensure ongoing DPB income. Why don’t those journalists become informed about the dynamics of sole parenthood, that the majority of family breakups are initiated by women and that DPB availability encourages this as it does teenage carelessness as well as deliberate pregancy in order to start a reliably paying career?

My point in this posting is not to engage in moral analysis about NZ women’s well-established promiscuity or to stand in judgement of it , or to debate the merits or otherwise of the government’s encouragement of birth control by DPB beneficiaries, or even to bemoan the social harm caused by our foolish DPB system. My goal is merely to highlight the process of femaleism as we have seen it here rearing up in response to an unauthorized comment. What does this show us about the femaleist regime?

Firstly, any facts and sound research findings that women don’t like will be immediately dismissed, lied about or otherwise discredited.

Secondly, anyone who dares to state such facts will be pilloried, ridiculed, demeaned and/or threatened and it will be made clear to them that it is dangerous to say anything that women might find uncomfortable.

Thirdly, femaleists can rely on all manner of people to jump to the defence of women’s honour and to eliminate any challenge to female supremacy.

Fourthly, it is unacceptable to hold women accountable for anything they do; men will always end up being blamed in some way.

Yes, there’s nothing new there, but this episode has been an interesting example of it.

73 Responses to “The Ugly Face of Femaleism”

  1. Kelvin Dunn says:

    I wonder if the hue and cry and angst about offering birth control to women on the DPB would be the same had the same proposal been made in respect of men. I suspect not.
    From a purely pragmatic/common sense viewpoint, if men are supposed to be the progenitors of the problem of too many kids being raised on the DPB then doesn’t it make more sense to ensure men don’t ‘plant their seed’? As Tanya would say, “Just a thought”.

  2. Ford says:

    women dont/wont take rsponsibility for nnything

  3. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Hans…

    Well its looks like nothing as change,in fact its looks things have gotten much worse for Men and Fathers in the Feminist ‘gulag’ controlled N.Z

    Hans,what you have described,’The Ugly Face of Femaleism’ is happening all over western European society …See the links below ….

    And there is at long last a huge ‘back lash’ occurring, even some intelligent,level headed western European women are starting to be really brave, and are raising their concerns on the feminists agenda of their…. ‘Demonetization’…. and the feminists… ‘Blame-hood’…. of all the worlds ills on Manhood and Fatherhood….

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anti-choice-group-blames-feminism-cruise-ship-captains-cowardliness

    http://www.backlash.com/book/blame.html

    http://exposingfeminism.co.uk/about.php

    http://drhelen.blogspot.co.nz/2011/01/feminists-are-now-amongst-most.html

    Kind regards John Dutchie Free at long last

  4. Bruce S says:

    And that “ugly face” has become the real, ubiquitous face that NZ portrays to the world at large! More makeup has been applied to that face with the overt circling of the wagons by the raving “feminist looney fringe” (dunne, key and co included); over Colin Craigs correct and verifiable assertion that kiwi ladies like sex. And there is nothing wrong with them liking it! What is clearly wrong is that the morons who have access to public platforms have clearly demonstrated, yet again that despite overwhelming evidence, their opinions must be regarded as sacrosanct! And we wonder why our intelligent, thinking and rational kiwi’s prepare to leave the country, in boatloads…..

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10805706

    A word for Mr Craig; don’t be too smug; those smart enough to vote for you won’t be here for the next election!

  5. Ford says:

    #3..NZ is a pretty sad sack place to be

  6. Ford says:

    ‘I did wonder if he had thought about who these women were having sex with. I’m sure there are some promiscuous girls having sex with each other, but they can’t all be girls going wild together. Which means if New Zealand women are slutty, so too are Kiwi men.’

    if 1 woman sleeps with 10 men how does that make the men sluts as well?
    once again women cant/wont take responsibility without having to dump the load onto men

  7. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Ford #2..5..6

    Ford, Hans comment on ‘Then Paula Bennett waded in with some good old male-blaming hate speech. Apparently the real issue is older men “preying on” young women.’

    Okay then,Kiwi women and the Kiwi Gestapo feminists women employed at the Gulag of ‘The Ministry of women’s affairs’ whom spy on here… Being my ‘unfeminized’ comment to the attention of your ‘fair minded’ Gestapo Feminist ‘Paula Bennett’ …

    What about Kiwi ‘Cougars’ that prey on young Men ????…Strange that nothing mention in that department?????..Am I correct…????..You two faced double standards Kiwi women…?????

    The same old shaming tactics feminists crap from you ‘two faced’ Kiwi women with your usual double standards feminist spin machine of ‘Dirty old men preying on young women, that’s disgusting…they should be imprisoned’ ‘…Blah…Blah….Blah…..

    Kind regards …John Dutchie…Free at long last…

    However you Kiwi women attitude concerning Kiwi Cougars on the prowl’ is…. ‘YOU GO GIRL’…’You are empowered’…’Its your right’…..’You are entitled to so’

    And you wonder why I hold ‘you’ Kiwi women in utter contempt…

  8. Scrap_The_CSA says:

    Sadly I suspect this media beat up over female promiscurity was merely a smokescreen to sneak through student allowances being capped at 4 years, which has been dislaced from the public radar by cleverly creating a feminist storm to avoid focus on more important issues.

    Its a common technique of the torries.

  9. Mits says:

    correct me if Im wrong but WINZ has been offering to pay for vasectomies to male beneficeries for the last 20 years.
    Note thats sterilisation not contraception.
    I cant remember a hue and cry about it 20 years back or anything since.
    These women jumping on the band wagon that this is a affront to their reproductive rights seem to be very quiet when the shoe is on the other foot.
    Its amusing in a tragic sense that they can raise such a fuss for their own gender but totally ignore the other side of the coin when it comes to reproduction.

  10. Ford says:

    if in the future all men had vasectomies and /or on a male pill every single incubator could still produce

  11. Ford says:

    #9..its womens right to reproduce..its womens right to over populate the planet.its womens right to give birth to all the world criminals including sex offenders..its womens right to be the bane of society

  12. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Scrap_The_CSA #8

    Your comment Scrap_The_CSA of ‘Its a common technique of the torries.’….

    Beg to differ there,just my humble opinion here …’Its a common technique done by all political parties ‘

    Kind regards…John Dutchie…Free at long last…

  13. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Bruce S #4

    ‘Tongue in Cheek’…..I hope the Australia employers that are recruiting skill Kiwi men to work in Australia…Don’t make the dreaded mistake of employing Kiwi women….With there sense of ‘victim hood’ combine with there sense of ‘Entitlement’ of been hard done by them evil and nasty Kiwi men….

    Australia companies nor do decent Australia men/Fathers don’t need to experience the ‘wrath’ of Kiwi women, or do they…???

    King regards John Dutchie…Free at long last….

  14. rc says:

    “Sadly I suspect this media beat up over female promiscurity was merely a smokescreen to sneak through student allowances being capped at 4 years, which has been dislaced from the public radar by cleverly creating a feminist storm to avoid focus on more important issues.”-Scrap_The_CSA

    Have to agree – at least with the part about it all being a diversion.

    Only a few weeks ago the Sandra Fluke affair burst out in the US, and Obama was in there working it for all it was worth. (Sandra Fluke was a law student demanding free contraceptives). Now we’re having the very same “national argument”.

    A few days ago Obama came out in support of gay marriage. Two days later, John Key says almost the exact same thing.

    Does anyone really think these guys give a hoot about the actual issue, rather than these issues’ ability to cleverly focus our mental resources away from other things dearer to their hearts?

  15. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to all

    Here is a very well written article for ‘Kerre Woodham’… ‘John Armstrong’…’Paula Bennett’…’Peter Dunne’…’Tariana Turia’ to read…Tongue in cheek..I eagerly await for their response/s..Not…!!!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-421244/Feminism-going-liberate-sexes-
    instead-destroyed-generation-men.html

    Kind regards …John Dutchie…Free at long last…

  16. Ford says:

    #15..shows how vile women can be.they have no respect for anyone but themselves…animals have more respect for their offspring than they do

  17. Skeptic says:

    Hans,
    You’ve done a fine job of exposing the glib femaleist mindsets of authority figures who should know much better than their comments show.
    Personally i don’t see why anybody who pays taxes should have to see their tax money spent on supplying kiwi women with FREE contraception. My attitude is this – You fuck. Then you pay for it yourself. Don’t expect to be able to sponge off the honest hardworking efforts of others. If you do you’re just a fucking parasite – literally.
    I smirk when I think of how the debate has been framed AWAY from taking such ADULT responsibility. The patronizing white knighting by John Key is ridiculous, and there’s the usual chorus of feminist entitlement-mongers……..same old same old.
    What is new is more and more folks can see how these types come out with BLATANTLY untruths because they’re threatened by the Men’s Rights Message.
    They should be. It’s JUST and getting louder –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qG_Jxt6N-Ek

  18. bruce says:

    Hans, excellent analysis (as usual) but I am excited by the fact that Colin Craig has come through this, I think in good shape. He may have lost some votes on the PC left (he never had those anyway) and won votes on the conservative side – so he is probably well ahead overall.
    Colin spoke the truth, and stuck to the facts. He has not backed down, the truth is the truth. The PC left used all its machinery against him but they could not break him, like they broke Alistair Thompson (who dared to say women have periods – true) or Andy Haden (who dared to say women contribute to sexual impropriety in sports teams – true also). The PC left were able to get Alistair Thompson and Andy Haden thrown out of their jobs, Colin Craig is still there, alive and well.
    This exercise has proved Colin Craig is strong, and can face up to those who denigrate males and Christians. We have waited years for this man and he deserves support.

  19. Ford says:

    #18..fucking awesome..lol

  20. Ford says:

    #19..colin craig had a durex worldwide survey to back him up where im not sure the other 2 had the same solid evidence behind them even though what they said was true

  21. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Skeptic #18

    Brilliant…..!!!!…Many thanks Skeptic….The revolt against the corrupt feminist movement is gathering momentum, and its getting stronger and stronger….And no amount of your Feminist propaganda of your Feminists shaming tactics is going to stop the revolt …I will never apologies to you Feminists on my ‘Manhood’ and my unconditional love to my children as a ‘Father’…And I deadly serious …I rather die standing then live on my knees and to be chained to ‘Feminism’

    To all you Feminists that spy on here…’You’…Yes,I talking to You Feminists….’You’ Feminists started this ‘gender war’ and ‘You’ shall truly reap what you have sown….

    Be very afraid Feminists…The backlash against you and your vile Double standards of ‘misandry’ is going to get a lot worse for you….

    Kind regards John Dutchie Free art long last

  22. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to all…

    Just a bit of ‘unpolitically’ correct humor Have a look at this herald cartoon …I think it describes Gestapo Kiwi women very well…And feminist lover ‘mangina’ John Key

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm? c_id=1&objectid=10805904

    Kind regards… John Dutchie …..Free at long last

  23. bruce says:

    #21 Ford, there is no shortage of medical evidence that PMT makes many women ill. As to sexually aggressive kiwi women, the feminists sing their praises as proof of feminist ideology, but shoot down any male (Andy Haden) who dares to use the information in a way that is counter to feminist ideology.

    Colin Craig looked his detractors in the eye and faced them down. Not having a job they could get him sacked from was another important strength.

    If more men got constructive like Colin Craig (and stopped the negative wailing I see too often on this site) we and our children would be better off.

  24. Ford says:

    #24..do anything constructive do you? or just have a dig at others?

  25. Ford says:

    #24..i also dont understand why the mentals argue against the truth

  26. bruce says:

    #25 Ford, I try to look at what I do to test if it is constructive or not. My dig is based on talking to politicians, who look at this site and are turned off by what they see. I am trying to tell people to be more constructive – I hope this is constructive.

    PS my comments are not directed at you in particular.

  27. John Dutchie says:

    Bruce your comment of ‘but shoot down any male (Andy Haden) who dares to use the information in a way that is counter to feminist ideology.’….

    Yes Bruce you are correct,but lets not forget the Kiwi women Gestapo feminists witch hunt that destroyed ‘Alistair Thompson career for he dared voiced n ‘opinion’ that didn’t suit the Kiwi women Gestapo Feminist agenda of ‘we are the victims’ and there sense of ‘entitlement’ mentality

    Lets not forget about what happen to ‘Peter Ellis’ shall we Bruce….???

    But whats even more worse and truly despicable here Bruce… Those same beloved fair minded Gestapo Feminists destroyed many a fine career of many a highly intelligent and decent women whom dared to speak out publicly against the Gestapo Feminist agenda..

    ‘Erin Pizzey’ is fine example of a Gestapo Feminist hunt hunt…see link below to validate on what I said..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1215464/Why-I-loathe-feminism—believe-ultimately-destroy-family.html

    My young adult daughter was one of them to Bruce, when she bluntly told some Feminist/s students and some Feminist/s lecturers too… ‘Piss off’…. when they tried to ‘FORCE’ her to do a ‘Women studies’ degree and to join the university feminist movement……My daughter is NOW continuing her masters degree in Male Friendly European country…

    Kind regards …John Dutchie…Free at long last

  28. Ford says:

    #27.. im a true reflection of the disgruntled men in society and a by product of the family rort system..if they dont like what they see then perhaps they should set about doing something about it

  29. John Dutchie says:

    Bruce your comment ‘My dig is based on talking to politicians, who look at this site and are turned off by what they see.’….

    My thoughts are like this Bruce ‘Whats good for the gander is good enough for the geese’…Classic point in case, and Hans as rightly pointed out …see below..

    ‘Then Paula Bennett waded in with some good old male-blaming hate speech. Apparently the real issue is older men “preying on” young women.’

    So what does that statement by ‘Paula Bennett’ tell us in New Zealand as Men and as Fathers then Bruce….????? concerning Kiwi female politicians with there Kiwi male ‘mangina’ politicians bending over backwards and agreeing with this dangerous and flawed ‘feminist’ dribble….

    So them poor politicians get offend when we fight back and refused to bow down and take there ‘verbal diarrhea’ spin doctoring crap …

    Well as far I am concerned, they can all rot in hell before submit, and I got some great news for them poor and insulted politicians, Bruce…’They can all take a cement pill and harden the **** up’

    Kind regards …John Dutchie…Free at long last

  30. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Ford’

    Ford your comment of….’I am a true reflection of the disgruntled men in society’…And on a serious note Ford.. ( I used to be one myself ,until I self exile myself to an Asian country’

    ‘You’ Ford are one of many of millions of disgruntled ‘pissed off’ Men/Fathers that live in the feminist matrix of western European society

    Kind of regards… John Dutchie…Free at long last

  31. John Dutchie says:

    Well…Well…What do we have here…. a Kiwi women feminist ‘bemoaning’ that she is single,and a lot of her kiwi women friends are too…

    ‘Tongue in cheek’… Gee…Heavens forbid I wonder what as caused ‘The Man Drought’ for them poor down trodden, beloved Kiwi feminist women …Hmmmmm…see link below

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10805798

    I have got some great news for you Kiwi feminist women …The smart and intelligent, decent,kind and loving Kiwi men ‘have left the building’ and are marrying forgiven women in droves, who haven’t been brain washed by Feminism…

    As I previously mentioned before Kiwi women feminists…You have now truly reaped on what you have sown…Truly ‘you’ Kiwi women have succeed beyond your wildest exceptions… Well done Kiwi women…

    Kind regards….. John Dutchie…Free at long last

  32. John Dutchie says:

    Oh if you Kiwi women are confused by the term ‘Men have left the building’…Please let me have honor of ‘un confusing’ you…Read this well written article…link is below

    http://soberdownunder.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/the-smart-men-have-left-the-building/

    Kind Regards… John Dutchie….. Free at long last

  33. John Dutchie says:

    Ouch…My mistake

    Whoops in my hurry state….I wrote this ‘Well…Well…What do we have here…. a Kiwi women feminist ‘bemoaning’ that she is single,and a lot of her kiwi women friends are too…’

    Where I should have written Well…Well…What do we have here…. a Kiwi women feminist ‘bemoaning’ that she is scared if ever became single,and a lot of her kiwi women friends are single too…

  34. Ford says:

    #32..#34.i read the article and once again i notice its always the male that has the unnatractive qualities..what makes women think they are so desirable?..self centred bitches

  35. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Ford#35

    L.O.L….. Brilliantly said Ford… ‘.i read the article and once again i notice its always the male that has the unnatractive qualities..what makes women think they are so desirable?..self centred bitches’

    And I am really going ‘stir the pot’ here Ford,so I hope you don’t mind good sir, I would like rephrase your post to this….

    .i read the article and yet once again i notice its always the so called under class, self centered,male chauvinistic sexist Kiwi male that has the unattractiveness qualities..what makes… ‘prima donna’… ‘Butch’… Big arsed….Unfeminine Kiwi feminist women think they are so desirable and precious?..self centered Kiwi women bitches……’

    Kind regards… John Dutchie..Free at long last….

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  36. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Bruce#24

    Again Bruce your comment ‘My dig is based on talking to politicians, who look at this site and are turned’ off…

    Here below is link,and in just my humble opinion a very well written article…

    What this young man as written, I can truly relate to his outlook of been a ‘Man’ living in a western European country…

    I also can understand why now there are a lot of very angry and very frustrated western European young Men

    Again, this is just my humble opinion… This is should be a.. ‘must’ …read for all N.Z politicians

    http://soberdownunder.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/why-are-young-men-angry/

    Kind regards… John Dutchie….Free at long last….

  37. John Dutchie says:

    to ‘Free’..’Tanya’… ‘Kerre Woodham’… ‘John Armstrong’…’Paula Bennett’…’Peter Dunne’…’Tariana Turia’

    SOBER DOWN UNDER

    ABOUT
    Red Pill Red Flag
    Why Are Young Men Angry?
    by sober down under

    This column shows how women are incapable of understanding how bad young men have it in this day and age. The Sydney Morning Herald’s Katherine Feeney regularly writes blog posts that ask inane questions that highlight how silly female journalists are. The comments on the Stuff repost and on the original article are full of misandrist commentary and variations on a theme – man up.

    From age 5, young men have been told how they are disgusting human beings. Girls can do anything, girls can punch boys without getting punched back and girls will be successful career women. Boys can’t play rough-and-tumble without getting sent to detention. They can’t stand up for themselves when it is completely justified, because it runs the risk of being labelled a “problem child” and drugged with Ritalin to subvert normal, healthy, young male developmental behaviour.

    By the time a young man makes it to university, he is the product of a system that doesn’t want him. Young women define what is attractive in young men, and for the bottom 80% of the male population, they might as well not exist. They are literally invisible to young women due to the apex fallacy and the belief that even an overweight, overopinionated, liberal arts graduate deserves a young man in the form of an All Black or high flying businessman.

    All of the claims that young men force young women into starvation diets and feeling bad about themselves because of some “beauty standard” is nonsense. Young women shame young women. Young women mock men they aren’t attracted to who have a go at asking them out or hitting on them. They call unwanted attention “creepy” and use sexual harassment laws and false rape accusations to literally castrate the bottom 80% of young men.

    Young men have the highest unemployment rate, young men have the highest suicide rate, young men have the highest workplace death rate, young men have the highest level of debt and young men have the lowest incomes and net worth. For being young, they are punished for something that is literally out of their control.

    Just 50 years ago, the average young man was faced with a completely different span of life outcomes. It was possible for a high school graduate to obtain a job in a factory or in the trades that would enable him to save money, buy a house, support a wife and family and enjoy the weekend after a solid week of work.

    The situation young men face in 2012 is completely incomparable to that faced by a young man in 1950. Even if you are from a high income family in this day-and-age, your prospects are far worse than you have been led to believe.

    Young men are angry because each time they achieve a life marker that meant something to their parent’s and grandparent’s generation – high school graduation, university graduation, a graduate job if they’re lucky – they come to realise that the level of attainment they’ve been promised is not a few years away, it is literally decades away.

    And then they see how lucky young women are in this day and age. A double standard exists where young women receive scholarships and awards for simply having a vagina, when a young man will have an enormous student loan balance. I will not even address the long disproven myth of a pay gap between young men and young women.

    The truth is that a young man today, unless he earns more than several hundred thousand dollars a year or has assets worth millions from inheritance or a business, is the economic and social inferior of a young woman.

    Young women literally don’t need young men for anything other than a root. And for a root, they pick men who they wouldn’t touch with a ten foot barge pole if there was no abortion, birth control, single mother welfare or high incomes for educated career women.

    The apex fallacy means that women are only attracted to what they perceive to be the best men on offer. They’ve convinced themselves that they deserve an alpha male. They’ve convinced themselves that they can fuck whoever they want and then settle down without a beta male provider batting an eyelid at their sexual history.

    And that’s where young men become angry. They see exactly what the real situation is. When you are young and have nothing to offer, you are invisible. The moment you have a high income, high social status or some other gimmick you suddenly become attractive. But you resent this because you are not attractive in the way you want to be perceived as attractive.

    Young men are angry because not all of them know that there are other ways to become more attractive to women. The manosphere and game, improving your looks, fashion sense and muscularity are proven solutions that might not turn you into an adonis but will get you laid more regularly and make you feel less angry.

    But then comes the other problem for angry young men. When they do take these steps to become more successful with young women, they expose themselves to enormous risks which only someone who has swallowed the red pill about how evil modern young women are could even comprehend.

    The risk of false accusations, the risk of sexual harassment nonsense thwarting a promising career, the risk of an unplanned pregnancy or even worse, being convinced of paternity when the child’s father is some other dude your cupcake screwed while you were still in the office at 10pm.

    As a gambling man, I view angry young men as the guys who have looked at what is on offer, calculated their odds of attaining the skills and success necessary to get what they want from young women, and decided that their best bet is not playing the game at all.

    Angry young men are still capable of earning enough to pay for video games, beer, HDTV and trips overseas where they can find more feminine women. But when the current economic system collapses under the weight of primarily male innovators going on strike, they won’t be able to distract themselves with Call of Duty and “going their own way”.

    Unless angry young men are placated, shit is going to get real. No guy I know has had net positive experiences with women. By net positive, I mean that, despite nearly all of them having had nice girlfriends at one point, the psychotic bullshit they’ve all had to deal with at one point means that they treat women like crap.

    Treating women like crap, funnily enough, serves as a form of temporary pain relief from the bullshit world we live in. Pumping and dumping girls, if you’ve developed that skill, becomes easier and easier when you realise that while you have had to hustle like a motherfucker for every cent to your name, you still end up fucking girls with a communications degree who have no student loan because they got vagina-only scholarships and a payrise within 6 months of starting their graduate job that means they earn more than their actual economic value to society is.

    This environment absolutely guts me. Because of our design as survival and replication machines, I would love nothing more than to have children someday. But in this environment, I don’t think I could find a woman anywhere on this planet who has not been infected by the feminist virus or the golddigger gene.

    Male-female relations are at an all time low. Despite the happy mirage of couples holding hands, marriages still happening and babies being born – the world is going to hell in a hand basket.

    It will only get worse because young women are actually accelerating away. Higher levels of education are easier to obtain when you are subsidised and molly-coddled every step of the way. Angry young men on the other hand are encouraged to fall by the wayside.

    Let them sweep the streets while the empowered young women write memos to each other in air-conditioned offices.

  38. Iron Eagle says:

    We have all support for you guys from Egypt, We too are demonstrating to accelerate the new law discussion of end the custody of the mother at 7 years old for boys, 9 years old for women. Good luck brave NZ men, I will let every father in our groups know about you initiatives, unfortunately all our Facebook groups are in Arabic.
    I have created a Facebook group called United fathers of the world, I wish we can communicate together from different parts of the world about our same case, and I hope that feminism to be exposed and destroyed soon the same way communism did.
    Group Url:
    http://www.facebook.com/groups/234013643371817/#!/groups/234013643371817/

  39. Iron Eagle says:

    This video shows the Egyptian demonstration which took place on 14 May 2012 in front of parliament to close family courts and to return custody to fathers at 7 years for boy and 9 years for girl like it was before.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ESUizw5GVpY

  40. Ford says:

    #36..i see the herald wont publish my comments on theor webpage..too close to the truth perhaps

  41. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Ford#41

    Nor would they publish mine Ford,which was basically a ‘copy and paste’ of the post of #38…

    I made very plain to the herald,that I wasn’t the original author of that article called ‘Why Are Young Men Angry?’but I did totally agree what the author had written and was about time that western European women realized that feminism as gone to far and a major backlash is now happening,and its only going to get worse

    …….Yes Ford the truth hurts alright……

  42. Ford says:

    John dutchman?..i saw it

  43. John Dutchie says:

    Ouch…

    Ouch…I had another look at the herald website, My mistake here Ford I am surprised they did accept it ,but only a certain parts of it…Better then nothing I suppose…L.O.L….

    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

  44. Ford says:

    i notice the last sentence was unfinished

  45. Ford says:

    #44..i got published eventually john..i posted this..’Theres just as many if not more vile women out there than men.too many women with unrealistic expectations’

  46. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Bruce#24

    Again Bruce your comment ‘My dig is based on talking to politicians, who look at this site and are turned’ off…

    Bruce here is a extremely powerful story written by a distraught and a very distress Father on his views on the ugly side of’Feminism’ …

    And I can relate to this fathers journey …very similar to my own journey…And if our beloved politicians, especially the Kiwi women feminists politicians can’t handle it, that’s there problem,not mine…For the real truth hurts doesn’t it…

    Kind regards …John Dutchie…Free at long last…..

    Narner | April 23, 2011 at 1:22 am
    Any feminist that purposely misspells the word women and further assumes that women are some how less violent then men is a blaring example of the “darker side of feminism” I have daughters. I was a stay at home dad for ten years before my divorce. Because of the evil bias perpetrated against men by the feminists that insist that we are not of the same species and have no respect for men my children now have no father. I used to believe in the claims that feminism is about equality for all. No it is not. It is about the domination and destruction of anything male. My ex kidnapped my kids. Then In court told outrageous lies about me and claimed she was the primary care giver. Truth She worked 14 hours a day and had a supportive husband to thank for her success in her career. At that first hearing the judge threw me out on the street with no money and a 10 year gap in my job history. He told me that He will find out if I was the primary care giver ant the next hearing. Well I did prove it. But it no longer mattered because now I wasn’t any more.
    My daughters had a loving dedicated Father. I still love them. I am still dedicated but in no way do I play the role of a father anymore. I am closer to a fucking abused pony in a petting zoo than a father. Thank you feminism for doing this to my children. Thank you for teaching my daughters to abuse their future husbands and to never show men respect. Thank you for teaching my daughters it is okay for women to demonize one half of the population and never take responsibility for their own sins. Thank you for teaching my daughters that fathers are only important for their sperm and are other wise disposable. Yes because of your great accomplishments my daughters are assured a happy life learning how to hate other people just because of their gender.
    By they way For my sins and my anger I have always taken responsibility. I went out of my way in my court battle to be as honest as possible because I used to believe in truth. I admitted to yelling at my wife. She also yelled at me. I admitted to being angry at being a neglected spouse. I was guilty of being angry and of yelling. I was guilty of breaking down and crying in front of my kids. I admitted that. I did not accuse her of anything other that what was I knew was true. Yet she threw lie after lie at me and continues to to this day. She went out of her way to destroy my reputation. Even after it came out that her accusations were all baseless and false she continues to do this. And she has the support of feminism behind her. Yes there is work to there is lots of work to do. For all the good feminism has done It has done greater evil. The work that needs to be done is dismantling the damage of feminism.
    I still believe in equal rights and status for men and women. But the war on masculinity is bad for us it is bad for our children and our society. Stop separating our species and spell women with and “E”! We are Human meaning men and women = human not human and humyn .

  47. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to all

    Interesting view point from a ex pat Kiwi male …Makes pleasant reading …Not….
    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

    http://www.tumeke.blogspot.co.nz/2008/06/expats-backlash-against-kiwi-women.html

    Just Me (North Shore)
    Maybe they are hiding away, scared of the pseudo-men the feminist emancipation turned the women into? By nature a man wants a partner of the opposite sex who exhibit feminine traits, have poise, and wants to be treated like a lady. Unfortunately those traits seem to have been ditched by a large percentage of kiwi women in favour of male mannerisms, which are not traits a man searches for in a partner. So ladies, instead of acting like abrasive men, do try being a bit more ladylike, you may just be surprised at the results. Stop looking down on men as simpleton seed-carriers and treat them with respect, and you can expect the same courtesy been returned. You don’t have to carry on like savages to prove your assertiveness. Let the man in your life feel important, and you can do this without being submissive. Don’t henpeck him, all you are then is a replacement mother, and that is exactly what they don’t want. A working relationship is all about give and take from both parties, without that you may as well break it off now.

    Fran O’Sullivan’s article last week on the so-called ‘man drought’ Auckland is experiencing has attracted a curious response that is somewhat revealing of larger societal attitudes in Kiwi culture. While O’Sullivan attempts to trace the long-term impact on the economy of women outnumbering men by 10% in those aged 35, a traditional age for settling down, more than 60% of the comments posted by readers are from men complaining about Kiwi women. Chiding our female population as ‘ham-bottomed’, ‘slovenly’, ‘drunk’ and ‘bad dressers’, these men complain that the impact of feminism in NZ has created a society of women that have taken up masculine characteristics. The answer, they assert, is for Kiwi men to engage in sex tourism overseas in cultures that they perceive as having more passive women – such as Asia, Russia and Britain.

    Certainly, many of the posts seem to come from bitter NZ men that have been unlucky with the ladies here and gone overseas for ‘greener pastures’. It is true that we do have a unique gender dynamic – a 2005 study by advertising agency FCB found that we were the only country to exhibit a “gender blending” phenomenon in our ads where women gained kudos through performing masculine tasks. But the level and tone of response signals that a broader malaise within Kiwi masculinity, a regressive backlash against women’s advances in NZ. Reading these comments, the only positive appears to be that the savvy women of our nation are enacting a perverse form of social evolution: we are breeding this sexism out of our culture by forcing these men to go overseas for sex.

  48. John Dutchie says:

    My sincere and humble advice to all you young Kiwi Men is….

    ‘is for Kiwi men to engage in sex tourism overseas in cultures that they perceive as having more passive women – such as Asia, Russia and Britain.’

    From my own personal experience living and working in a Asian Country and having a wonderful highly intelligent Asian lady partner that we are now engaged to be married

    My sincere advice is to all the young decent, intelligent,caring single Kiwi men… ‘GO ASIA’…You won’t regret it…And I will guarantee you will never, ever want to return to this Feminist Cesspit called the social engineered Gestapo hell hole Feminist state called New Zealand

    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

  49. Ford says:

    the problem with alot if not all kiwi/euro women is they think they are too good for men

  50. John Dutchie says:

    The following is a true story and a possible outcome for those young men who father children in a Western Nation. Rather than “don’t marry,” the author is advocating “don’t marry, and don’t father.” Those who do are one female whim away from emotional ruin and slavery.

    The man who wrote the article is now in his mid forties. If you want to offer some solutions or help to him, please do so.

    A life not worth living

    It has been seven years since my wife move 500 miles away with my almost three year old son one day when I was at work; and my 500 mile trips to try to reconcile our family eventually proved futile.

    Our marriage lasted almost ten years. We waited seven years to have our first child. Our son was completely planned, welcomed and cherished. I was a doting and loving father and I spent every day and weekend with my son.

    After the divorce, the courts allowed me to see my son three weekends per month from 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM. That is only 6.66% of the total time available in the month. I was allowed one phone call per week. The courts allowed his mother to keep him 500 miles away; I had to travel 500 miles to see him. I was ordered to pay his mother $1500 per month. No consideration was taken for my travel expenses. Most importantly, no consideration was given for my son’s rights to have his father in his life the same amount of time as before. Not three weekends per month only in the daytime, but every day and night and weekend. I was a very affectionate, loving and responsible father and absolutely doted over my son. I was stripped of my fathership and made a visitor in his life. He was stripped of his father.

    Within two months my son behaved like a stranger to me. Within four months he was actively hostile towards me. After traveling 500 miles to see him, his mother would not show up with him. His mother was alienating him from me.

    Within seven months I lost my job. After being a victim of a terrible wife and a corrupt court system, I realized the situation was hopeless; I walked away.

    Even though she destroyed most of the relationship between my son and I, I am the one being blamed for abandonment.

    I thought I could begin a new life; but seven years later the pain remains. My pain over missing my son; the pain over how my son must feel; the pain over the disadvantages that my son has. Pain over a career that has been trashed. Pain over huge child support debts that can never be repaid. Pain over a life where I will never be able to have any sort of financial security or retirement. Pain over the fact that I will never know my grandchildren. Pain over excruciating loneliness.

    The worst times are weekends and holidays. Weekends and holidays were mine and my son’s best times together. When I see fathers with sons I feel an overwhelming sadness: a sadness of what has been lost; what is not; and what could have been.

    Also I am permanently changed. No amount of therapy, psychotropic drugs, or a new woman and child can remove the hollowness inside me. I notice the effect when I am around people. I used to be happy and fulfilled; now I am empty and depressed, and people notice it and they don’t want to be around me. It is impossible for me to smile and I get no pleasure from anything; not even eating. I have no present and no future.

    Am I a loser?

    I was an example of someone who raised themselves from nothing to something though hard work. I put myself through college; earned a scholarship, and worked many crappy jobs before I finally landed a good one. Through thrift, I managed to save a tidy nest egg. I never had any problems with the law. But because my wife became unhappily married, I have been criminalized, even though I tried to keep the marriage together.

    Now I don’t have a car, I don’t have a drivers license, I don’t have a girl friend, and I live in a small and shitty room. I earn a fifth of what I earned before. I have a very difficult time holding a job because of depression.

    I am a Christian; so I am afraid of committing suicide. Nevertheless, I often research suicide to see if there is some justification for it; some way to do it, without going to hell. I want out of my life; I would not want to wish my life on my worst enemy. It is a life that is not worth living.

    I pray every day for some guidance and purpose of what I am supposed to do; I don’t get any answers.
    Where did I go wrong? Was it the wrong choice of a woman?

    My wife was very religious (mormon) and a virgin when we met. She never smoked a cigarette or drank alcohol in her life. She was the most family-oriented person I had ever met. I would never have thought she would have chosen divorce. And if she chose divorce, I would have thought she would have wanted a father in her son’s life. But she changed. Why did she change? I don’t know but I think because of cultural influences.

    Why do I write this? For pity?

    No. I write this to give young men an idea of what they are facing when they father children in the USA or any other country that imitates the American court system.

    When the divorce happens, and it is more likely to happen then not, you will be destroyed emotionally and financially. Your children will suffer. The more responsible, the more loving, the more family-oriented you are, the more you will be destroyed.

    Marriage and family is sacred and the greatest gift a man can have. Unfortunately, in the USA, marriage and family have been perverted beyond repair.

    For young men, the worst thing you could do is to have children in the USA. For parents of boys, the worst thing you could do is to pressure your sons into having children in the USA. Don’t think it cannot happen to you or your sons.

    Is there a solution? Yes.

    Emigration. Make your money in the states and emigrate out when you are financially able. Then marry and have children in a family-friendly nation and a nation with fairer divorce laws. This is a solution that won’t completely remove the risk of divorce; but will reduce it.

    As a man in the USA you have nothing to look forward to. Only the ignorant or the masochistic would think of fathering children there. In the USA fathers are like tightrope walkers without netting. Don’t do it.

    You have been warned by someone wandering in hell who lives a life not worth living.

    Information and statistics:
    States get matching funds from the federal government for every support order they issue; therefore there is an built-in economic incentive against family reconciliation and against shared custody and an economic incentive for sole physical custody.

    Presumption of guilt is on the man. If the woman makes any type of emotional or physical abuse claim, the man will be removed from his home and children.

    Nine out of ten times the children are given to the woman, no matter how good the man is.

    If you fall behind in child support $2500, your passport is denied.

    If you fall behind in child support $2500, you drivers license is revoked.

    If you are behind and miss payments, you can go to jail for contempt of court.

    If you have a history of falling behind on payments, you can be placed in prison.

    Because you are in jail does not mean child support payments stop; on the contrary, child support payments continue and arrears continue to build.

    In many states, interest is added to arrears at the rate of 10 percent per year.

    If you lose your job and get a lesser paying job, the child support agencies will do their best to try to keep the payments the same.

    Employers frown on wage garnishment; it is more work for them and they are less likely to hire a divorced man and more likely to exploit one because they know he is desperate.

    As your children are stripped away from you and the relationship severed, you will be accused of abandoning your children.

    If you have arrears, a child support lien will be placed on your credit report which comes up on background checks rendering you much less employable.

    Any type of depression or despondency is used against the man to further remove him from his children, causing yet more depression and despondency.

    Non-custodial parents (men) are around three times as likely to commit suicide then the rest of the male population, and in the USA the general male population is around five times more likely to commit suicide then females.

    Men are not entitled to a lawyer in a failure to pay child support court hearing.

    50,000 men are in jail or prison every day for child support arrears.

    Ever wonder why there are so many homeless men? Do your own street interviews. Ask random homeless men if they ever went through a divorce or the child support system.

    A man with children in the USA is like a tightrope walker without netting: the risk-reward profile is life or death.

    Professor Stephen Baskerville exposes child support system

    No lawyer guaranteed for child support offenders

    No food stamps for men who don’t (can’t) pay child support. You may also starve if the woman decided to take your children away.
    50,000 imprisoned for child support

  51. John Dutchie says:

    Ford see the above post #51…I sure you can relate to what this American Father as been though…He been totally destroyed, villain fry,and criminalized just because he made the dreaded mistake of becoming a loving,caring,devoted Father

    Especially this statement this American Father made… ‘A man with children in the USA is like a tightrope walker without netting: the risk-reward profile is life or death.’…

    And in my humble opinion New Zealand is not far behind in the ‘Demonetization’ of Fatherhood like America as truly become..

    Your comment .’The problem with alot if not all kiwi/euro women is they think they are too good for men’….You are correct Ford

    I will even go further here Ford…Personal ‘you’,as a single western European Man should be declared ‘Totally Insane’ to even dare think of marrying, and even worse still,of thinking of becoming a ‘Father’ to a Western European women in a western Feminist European country/society

    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

  52. Ford says:

    alot of men dont want kiwi/euro women and to counteract that and take the power back women have to make out that men are lacking in good qualities

  53. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Ford#53

    Interesting comment ‘a lot of men dont want kiwi/euro women’ the last year before I left N.Z,I was living in a major north island city …

    I noticed a lot of younger as in ranging early twenties to late thirties intelligent Kiwi men from Tradesmen, businessmen,professional and even male university students dating, or in relationships/married with either an Asian/southern Africa women/eastern European women…

    My last week in N.Z… I was arranging my last transfer of funds out of N.Z to a Asian bank …

    The Male bank teller was a real nice sincere, genuine Kiwi guy in his early twenties… He told me he was engaged to marry southern African lady,and how he wouldn’t even dare go near a western kiwi European women anymore, for he had been to badly burnt and emotionally scarred by them ‘nut cases’ Kiwi European women …And that exact words he used ‘Nut cases’…

    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

  54. Ford says:

    #54..ive been a single man for 17 yrs now and another 17 is just fine by me..dont get me wrong though id love to have a nice asian lady friend but ill never go near any rootbag kiwi slapper again

  55. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Ford #53
    My Asian lady partner found this interesting article on the web…A very interesting read on why western men are not so called ‘manning up’…And of course guess which gender the feminists are blaming this situation …You got it in one…Its the ‘Men’s’ fault…

    Google this…..the spearhead.com/2011/03/07/hey kay we are manning up thats why were walking

    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

  56. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to all…Here is reply from a very astute young man on his views on ‘Manning up’ in today’s western European society

    Hadamard March 7, 2011 at 08:45
    Hey Kay! I am 25, never married or divorced. I rarely f ever play video games. I have my own place, car and a high powered corporate job, so I’m not your definition of a loser. Yet I have taken notice of the bad behavior of women in general and especially the feminists. I am one more guy that will just walk away, I’m not going to sign myself up for marriage slavery like you want and no amount of shaming language will change that.

    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

    Have a great and lonely life!

  57. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Ford #53

    Well…Well….Again I have give my wonderful Asian lady partner kudos here on putting me onto this website….. Have a look at this website,see link below……

    http://www.happierabroad.com/..Below is a Extract from ‘happierabroad’

    ‘This real epidemic of loneliness, datelessness and poor toxic mental health in America is evidenced by the following:

    The lifestyle and environment are devoid of human connection. Every man is an island. There is an “ice barrier” between strangers, and communication is mostly business related. People limit social interaction within cliques. They are segregated, paranoid, and mistrustful. Most don’t know their neighbors. Trying to meet people feels awkward. One feels alone in crowded places. Genuine people are hard to find, and the more authentic and down-to-earth you are, the more of a misfit you become. There is no heart and soul or camaraderie – only soulless beings going through “cliched motions”. All that matters is working and consuming.
    Dating and relationships are a no-win nightmare for many men. Women are corrupted by feminism and spoiled by narcissism. They hate their femininity and do not look, act or dress feminine, but have masculinized themselves (to the disappointment of men). They despise men and see them as fools, creeps and predators. Having too many choices, they become super picky and reject 80 to 100 percent of their admirers. Every attractive female seems to be either taken, not looking, or too picky. Women are unapproachable, paranoid, uptight, cliquish, don’t talk to strangers, and see flirting as creepy and offensive. Men do not feel wanted, and niceness counts for nothing. Single men outnumber single women. There are more dateless males than in any other country.
    The socio-cultural environment makes you insecure and inauthentic. It makes you feel inadequate, unworthy and fragmented in a highly toxic, stressful and lonely environment. You always feel like you have to “prove yourself”. No one feels accepted for who they are, so they try to compensate in unnatural ways – by pumping yourself with pseudo-confidence, bragging, acting phony, or losing it and going crazy. With the highest rates of mental illness in the world, at least 1/3 of people have seen a shrink, which speaks volumes.’

    Hate to say this,and I say was great sadness … Doesn’t the above written article relate to certain aspects of Manhood and Fatherhood in N.Z society…

    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

  58. Hans Laven says:

    From a popular blog site called Sodahead (most of its topics are inane celebrity things but sometimes good gender issues come up):

    HipJipC, you believe many myths and distortions encouraged by feminists. Yes, it is mainly women who are raped (biological and anatomical realities account for this gender difference though that’s not in any way an excuse for rape), but men are overwhelmingly the most frequent victims of violence and murder in western societies, from military service to local neighbourhoods. Domestic physical violence is initiated approximately equally by male and female heterosexual partners but its seriousness is greater on average when done by men. Nevertheless, male partners are killed at approximately 25% the rate of female partners and some research suggests the same 25% proportion applies to domestic violence injuries requiring medical attention.

    “Sex trafficking” is a modern feminist buzz-slogan that is heavily exaggerated. Often it’s alleged by foreign prostitutes when they are found to be plying their profitable trade illegally or without work permits, but real evidence and prosecutions are very rare. UN studies show sex trafficking is a relatively small issue numerically, dwarfed by the trafficking of men for their labour.

    I can’t speak for nonwestern countries and neither can you because you don’t have a full and balanced understanding of their cultures (but that clearly doesn’t stop you). The feminist portrayal of pre-feminist western societies as cesspits of female oppression and exploitation is largely nonsense. Yes, age-old policies unnecessarily limited women/s choices and legal rights, and early feminism’s quest for gender equality was reasonable and acheived fast change. However, throughout the ages most men proudly supported and protected their wives and children. “Women and children first” was the normal code such that (e.g.) male survivors of the Titanic were subsequently villified and persecuted on the suspicion they did not give up their places on lifeboats to women.

    Feminism’s claimed quest for gender equality has turned out to be a fraud. I have never seen a feminist object to inequality when it benefits women and disadvantages men. Feminists seek to maintain historical privileges such as unaccountability for their misbehaviour (men used to be held responsible for their wives’ actions), having men wreck their bodies to provide women with financial support, having men protect them when faced with hostile invasion and war (and female leaders have been at least as likely as male leaders to wage wars, always using predominantly male soldiers), as well as constantly demanding new privileges. Yet feminists resent what used to be men’s side of the gender contract. Feminism has turned out actually to be femaleism, a quest for female superiority and privilege through exploitation of men.

    The notion that women would do much better and fairer if in charge is conjecture not supported by history or recent experience. Women as well as men can and do commit acts of selfishness or cruelty. Men provide most of the materials and infrastructure for our privileged lifestyle through generous sacrifice of their comfort, health, bodies and lives. It’s long beyond time that men were again appreciated for their contribution rather than being constantly blamed, resented and complained at in the feminist era. A war on femaleism has begun and certainly will intensify unless feminists turn away from femaleism and instead start behaving fairly and responsibly towards men, families and society.

  59. Ford says:

    its commonly stated by women that men exploit females that appear in magazines showing off nicely trimmed bikini clad bodies..its not men exploiting them but rather their own vanity and need to be desired..i say put some clothes on then ya bunch of slappers

  60. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Hans #59 and might I suggest to Tania to have a look….

    Hans, I had read of this article,see link below could useful to you

    http://www.nzcpr.com/GuestSBirks1.htm

  61. Fem says:

    There is so much hatred in these comments. You are calling women – all women, over 50% of the population – bitches and slappers. We are humans, just like you, but with slightly different bodies. We still haven’t achieved equality in so many areas, and that is why we need feminism. Feminists are often in loving relationships with men, myself included, and we want society to be more equal – not for the men we interact with every day to be disadvantaged or hurt. Gender inequality hurts both men and women, we know that, and we are doing all that we can.

    But what will not help, anyone, is such pure hatred of the other gender. We – I – don’t think that all men are evil, and I would never say that all men are ‘bitches’. What a cutting and meaningless thing to say, it can’t possibly be true of men OR women. Men and women need equal rights. We are fighting the same fight. Why not fight it together?

  62. Mits says:

    Care to expand on that a bit Fem?
    what areas havent you received equality in for example.
    personaly I dont hate all women, but there are a few that I will go out of my way to have nothing whatsoever to do with.
    Its dissapointing that you have appeared to confuse all the hurt and pain expressed in the post as a mere case of all the posters must be haters, so lets pigeon them in that box, and ignore the message.
    Can you give some examples around feminism where the females are fighting the fight for equality for both sides not just females.
    Mits

  63. rc says:

    There is so much hatred in these comments.

    There are some really hateful feminist sites out there – far worse than anything you will read here. Perhaps you would be so kind as to post links to us so that we can see you admonishing them as well.

    If your concerns against ‘hatred’ are directed only at men, then you are part of the problem.

  64. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Fem#62

    ‘We are fighting the same fight. Why not fight it together?’…Pardon you have got be kidding me….

    The only fight I will continue is my fight against you as a feminist with the rest of your vile ‘toxic’ gender supremacist Feminists…Equality did you say…Please spare me your feminists propaganda dribble..!!!!

    Tell that one to ‘Peter Ellis’ from the Christchurch Civic Creche case…That was nothing more then a Kiwi women feminist witch hunt

    Here let me enlighten you on the real meaning of your ‘Feminism’ ideology ..see websites below…Dare you to read them….

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1215464/Why-I-loathe-feminism—believe-ultimately-destroy-family.html

    http://thefemitheist.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

    http://www.fatherhoodcoalition.org/cpf/newreadings/2001/feminist_hate_speech.htm

    And after you have had a good read of all these websites come back to me and dare say Feminism is also base on Equality for Men as well………Then I will tell you ‘I believe in Santa Claus too’….!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh,and by the Miss feminist I leave the real ‘hate’ to the feminist movement

  65. All Men Are ... says:

    It was in our lifetime, that all men were declared to be rapists! All men. Not some, but all.
    Refer http://feministhate.tripod.com/id51.htm
    Search the string (with quote marks) in Google, and you’ll get 159,000 references.
    Make that 159,001, because no doubt this post will soon add to that list.

  66. Ford says:

    #62..not ALL women as you would like to state..only the slappers and the ones that wish to take it on board..if the shoe fits then thats who its directed at

  67. Hans Laven says:

    Fem (#62): I agree with some of what you say. Use of insulting, aggressive, labelling language to make generalized put-downs towards all women, all ‘western’ women or all NZ women is really no better (though no worse either) than the feminist anti-male behaviour that posters here fight against. Personally, I believe that name-calling and hatred towards women in general does the men’s movement no good at all. Please note however that the types of comments you object to have come from only one or two posters while most of us here participate in reasoned, if sometimes angry, discussion about issues relevant to men.

    In my experience, at any one time there has usually been a small number of destructive participants on MENZ who indulge in unrestrained aggression, silly gender stereotyping and other expressions of low-intellect hatred in their comments. Those participants have often been challenged by others here but tend not to be the kind of people who can be reasoned with. They are informed that their style of comments will simply harm the men’s movement and delay any potential progress. Their communications provide a convenient justification for those outside the movement to dismiss us all as unreasonable extremists, as you have done. Even worse, some rantings subject us all to the risk of official intervention. As Tama Iti and his lot found out, even drunken ravings in the local public bar fantasizing about blowing up parliament can lead to military-style raids by agents of the state, seizing of possessions and prosecution under recent police-state laws. Unrestrained ravings through the internet don’t even require the state to go to the trouble of installing hidden microphones. Yet some posters don’t seem to care that they damage the movement and place other participants at risk. A good proportion of such posters end up being exposed as feminist imposters or trolls who have been here deliberately to bring the movement into disrepute.

  68. Ford says:

    #62..and instead of using the word ‘hate’ as you and other females take pleasure in doing..thry the word anger..its closer to the truth and have totally different meanings

  69. Ford says:

    hans..im just your average unintellengent angry male with no other deliberate intentions other than to say what i think

  70. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Fem#62

    I want to state this loud and clear to you Mrs Fem…

    I will always honor,love,cherish,respect and protect womanhood and Motherhood …

    But what feminism as now turn into, as its now a blatant Feminist gender bias supremacy movement

    No….!!!I will never defend, submit,be subservient or bow down to Feminism because I happen to be western European Man and loving western European Father..I just wanted to clear this up with you…before other feminists jump on the Feminists band wagon and label me as a so called Women hater…

    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

  71. Ford says:

    #71..10 yrs ago i got caught drink driving..i had to undergo a probation report with a female probation officer..i told her i moved out of my flat when my female flatmate wasnt home to avoid any hassles and had been drinking and accepted it was my decision to drive..she put in her report i blamed the female flatmate for my decision to drive..then my male lawyer told the female judge i hated woman..i got 5 months jail..hows that for feminist shit

  72. John Dutchie says:

    Reply to Ford#72

    I know how the ‘feminist’ system works Ford…. I have personally been whipped, slaughtered and quartered by the so called.. ‘unbiased’…feminist justice system

    I have witness the total destruction to my ex brother in law,and my two best mates through the…. ‘unbiased’… justice system

    Why do you think I left N.Z …One reason is, because I will never ever trust the system ever again

    Kind regards …..John Dutchie …Free at long last

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