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Mon 2nd September 2013

Crown drops indecency case

Filed under: General,Sex Abuse / CYF — Lukenz @ 7:22 pm

The curious case of tonsil touching has come to an end.

Crown drops indecency case against former teacher

It seems for this man a lot of things came to an end while he was waiting for the Police to drop the case. Lets see,

1. Name suppression came to an end
2. Faith came to an end
3. Patience came to an end
4. His Career came to an end
5. His freedom to travel came to an end while he was waiting
6. Savings came to an end (paying a solicitor)

Here is the list of things that won’t come to an end

1. Nightmares still continuing
2. Family members worry
3. Still concerns by local some witch hunt public
4. Charge against his name still on Police record

I think there should be an inquiry into why the Police took so long and put this man through so much. Where’s the victim support? What does he do now? Should he leave town?, change his name? Can’t sociality see what they have done?

11 Responses to “Crown drops indecency case”

  1. Wayne Burrows says:

    No doubt the police will be pursuing the complainant for her false allegation.

  2. Danny says:

    Making false state ments and using children to disadvantage you ex is so not on. Been there done that. Had all the university people saying he must have done something, now they have protection orders agains them and they now get it.
    HaHa to late, it wont happen to me. year right welcome to the club where men get screwed. And all it takes is a nasty ex.
    The kids suffer they hurt they burn, its not right, I have lost my two oldes boys aged 18 and 21 I still see my yonger kids
    girl 7 and boy 13 but what happened to me was a travastie.I never thought I would end up in jail for being a dad, I said no dugs no violence, few months later I was locked up.How many guys like me are out there. I realy need to warn the young guys
    that they have no rights as a father, and this is so wrong. Most people guys I talk to have no idea how they have been displaced.

  3. danny says:

    You have the right to remain silent use it. Don’t tell them shit u don’t have to tell them who you are or anything.
    They are only there for there own benefit don’t talk to them not a word.

  4. blamemenforall says:

    danny (#3): That depends on who is asking you. You don’t have to say anything to a social worker but to police you are legally required to provide your correct name, address, date of birth, occupation and employer’s name, and name of the owner of any car you are driving. Otherwise, it can often be a good idea not to answer any other questions. I would recommend that you politely ask the police officer(s) to limit questions to those you are legally obliged to answer and say that you will consult a lawyer before answering any other questions. Then only repeat that same request/statement and make sure you don’t let them trick, manipulate, pressure, threaten or goad you into responding to anything else. Of course, this applies only if the police appear to be interviewing you concerning your own behaviour; it would be better to talk with police in a collegial way if they clearly are seeking your account as a witness, say, concerning someone else’s complaint about your ex’s parenting.

    Having said that, even if the issue might be about you it can sometimes be a good idea to have a simple statement descibing your actions if this emphasizes you did nothing wrong, e.g. “I was in another city at that time” or “I went to my child’s school only to watch her compete on sports day”. Be careful not to make claims that police might be able to contradict by getting some evidence or statement from someone else. E.g., if you claim that while at the school sports day you had no interaction with your ex, (s)he might get his/her friend to claim they saw you gesturing to your ex. Importantly, if you make such a statement don’t get tricked into answering clarifying questions etc. Strictly and only repeat the same statement word for word if asked any other questions, or politely and confidently inform them you will speak to a lawyer before answering any further questions. This is your right and if asserted in that way there is a good chance police will respect that right and will not attempt to take revenge on you for asserting it. There is nothing at all to be gained from becoming abusive or impolite.

    Remember, most prosecutions rely on what the prosecuted person said to police. Admitting things is foolish until you talk to a lawyer, and even if the lawyer recommends you admit this can be foolish. Lawyers get brownie points from police and judges when they help cases get processed efficiently, and this is often more important to them than ensuring you get fair and accurate justice.

    Unless you know the law comprehensively, answering questions is foolish because you may be admitting something that you don’t realise could be used as evidence of wrongdoing. And answering questions is foolish also because police will look for any small inconsistency and indeed lead you into saying things that can later be claimed are inconsistencies, all of which can be used to convince a judge or jury of your guilt. The more you say, the greater the likelihood that something will seem inconsistent. Unfortunately, the nature of our system is such that it really is better to answer nothing beyond what you are obliged to answer, or at most to repeat one simple statement asserting your innocence.

    Please note that the opinions and advice I have written in this comment are offered in good faith but based only on a layperson’s knowledge. The advice is not intended to be competent legal advice. I would recomend that any reader consider the suggestions and statements written here but obtain competent legal advice before acting on them.

  5. andrew says:

    well as the teacher involved I suppose I should comment.
    1-In spite of my age nearly 67 I am not an ex teacher and I hope to remain teaching for a few years yet.
    2-Acting on the advice of my lawyer and union I refused to “talk” with the police without my lawyer being present. I followed this advice because I did not trust the particular police person involved. A minority of police have a habit of misquoting people.
    3-The wheelbarrow assault charge was brought because two police turned up at my house to see me after the police had been told 2 or 3 times that I would only talk to them with my lawyer being present. Unfortunately I have little memory of the incident because I was suffering very high blood pressure at the time and I had a dysfunction of the brain caused by the high blood pressure which either a mini stroke [TIA] or a variant migrane. The police did call the ambulance and that was nice of them
    4-As for the major charge well I did touch the girl under the chin to check the mandibular nymph nodes [I teach microbiology and I was for some years a solo Dad of two girls]. However there was an adult witness present and no school in our area has a school nurse.

    So there we are, the local community supported me all the way through as did the school.
    However I will leave others to diagnose tonsillitis in future witness or no witness.

  6. blamemenforall says:

    Thanks for that Andrew and well done for handling the situation so competently. Your way of dealing with it stands as a lesson to others. Unfortunately there have been many who went down on the basis of false allegations, very easy to make. Sexual offences are treated in special ways because it’s mainly men accused of them. For example, few other offences could even get past depositions on the basis simply of someone’s allegation without any corroborating evidence, but for sexual offence allegations that’s all that’s required to go right through to conviction. Skilled acting in the Courtroom has seen many a jury vote in sympathy with the female accuser. For men accused of sexual offences, it’s now almost a case of guilty unless you can prove you were innocent.

  7. andrew says:

    Well folks I thought you might like to know that there is life after false accusations.
    I am back now teaching at John Paul [a really good school] as well as continuing my teaching at Tai Pouteni Polytechnic.
    Although I am still subjects to fits of depression life is good most of the time.
    A student asked me this morning if it was really true that I assaulted two police people with a wheelbarrow. I answered that I really did not know [mini stroke and all that].
    I regret that the class broke into howls of laughter but I soon got back into my teaching and the class now knows the meaning of the word exothermic.

  8. Ministry of Men's Affairs says:

    Thanks Andrew for keeping in contact and reporting the good news! We wish you an excellent and long remainder of your career and a great life after that. May other men caught up in the feminist witch hunts take inspiration from your tale.

  9. andrew says:

    Thanks for the good wishes.
    However I do not intend to retire I like teaching too much.
    Actually it worries the principal a bit that my declared intention is to die in the classroom. All students that I teach have the instruction that I do wish for them to give me the kiss of life just let me die and do some more science. I teach at a Catholic school and we accept that death is just part of “life” so just enjoy what you have for today, do some good to the best of your ability and let tomorrow look after itself.

  10. andreas says:

    Good luck to our teacher

  11. andreas says:

    I wonder if andrew should complain to the police and cyfs about the continual harassment that occurred in this case. It is so unfair to have one of our senior citizens who is very well regarded on the west coast picked on so much.

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