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Mon 16th September 2013

Male offender: Bristol Clauses. Female Offender: Pussy Pass.

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:25 pm

Step right up ladies and gentlemen to see yet another unbelievable act of mental gymnastics, flexible ideology and creative justice. When a man did it we got the Bristol Clauses with feminist claims that all men are potential child murderers no matter how they might appear, and we saw tens of thousands of men treated accordingly. But when a women does it, albeit unsuccessfully, we get heaps of sympathy for her, her lame excuses are taken as truth and she is sentenced to, wait for it, 6 months’ supervision! This woman, Charmaine Herbert, drove with her children as passengers after after consuming cannabis and alcohol with the deliberate intention of killing herself and the children.

I guess the children will still be in her care. After all, she was such an unfortunate victim of circumstances etc etc. And hey, she did say she regretted the children were in the car, so what’s the problem, huh?

Death-bid mum avoids jail for harming kidsNZ NewswireSeptember 16, 2013, 1:28 pm

Watching her partner being saved from three heart attacks left a Bay of Plenty teacher so traumatised she deliberately drove her car, with her three children inside, into a tree, a court has been told.
Her actions led to her being charged with ill treating her children aged 15, eight and three near Kaingaroa on January 19.
In Rotorua District Court on Monday, Charmaine Lana Herbert, 41, of Kaingaroa Forest, south east of Rotorua, was sentenced to six months’ supervision.
Judge James Weir told her this was to prevent her from becoming so depressed again. He noted she’d told a probation officer she had been “climbing out of a black pit”.
Herbert’s lawyer, Douglas Hall, said she had been certified as clinically depressed and needed rehabilitation rather than a punitive sentence.
“She witnessed her partner being resuscitated from near-death experiences after three cardiac arrests that day and was at breaking point,” Mr Hall said.
Herbert’s actions had been extremely out of character; she was a person held in high regard by her school and local community.
Judge Weir told Herbert what she did could have had tragic consequences for her whole family, but accepted she acted while highly stressed after seeing her partner in such a critical state in hospital.
According to the police summary of facts, Herbert had drunk alcohol and smoked cannabis with friends before deliberately driving her car, with her children inside, into a tree.
She missed the large one she aimed for, but hit a smaller one. She and her oldest child received whiplash while the two other children were unscathed.
Herbert had admitted wanting to kill herself and knowing the children were in the car but said she regretted they were.

4 Responses to “Male offender: Bristol Clauses. Female Offender: Pussy Pass.”

  1. Downunder says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/9172163/Dad-jailed-for-letting-twins-starve-to-death

    This is an interesting case, centered on the traditional roles of father and mother, it highlights the difference between the collective responsibility placed on men versus the collective responsibility placed on women.

    As usual there is a higher threshold of responsibility placed on men and a lower threshold of accountability placed on women.

    They both however got eight years.

  2. Bruce S says:

    MOMA – thank you for yet another entertaining installment of the NZ Justarse system in action. Of course we’ve already been inoculated against showing any degree of shock, horror, or outrage at the “justice” afforded to New Zealand non-males when they commit minor “indiscretions”. I mean trying to kill your kids is just a petty crime when you’re their mother.

    What you have to do to get a jail sentence in New Zealand is to “knock off a few paua” and be a male to boot! Here you go; 4 years jail because Paua are more precious than our kids:

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/18953197/paua-poaching-ringleader-sentenced-to-prison/

  3. Downunder says:

    Does this mean that the value of a life diminishes when a child is in the care of a mother?

    The criminal court system places a higher burden of responsibility on men but the family court removes fathers from the family on a whim.

  4. Downunder says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/9172163/Dad-jailed-for-letting-twins-starve-to-death

    There is a 5 year gap in the time frame here. You would have to wonder if the father has been working and looking after the older children.

    If so then is 8 years each parity in sentencing?

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