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Sun 24th November 2013

Suicide Remembrance

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 1:56 pm

Friends & family members lost to suicide remembered today.

Friends and family members lost to suicide will be remembered at an event in Auckland today.

The non-denominational candle lighting service is organised by Solace Support Group.

Chief Coroner Neil MacLean will be there…he’s recently been pushing for a more open dialogue around suicide.

The service is at St Columba Church in Grey Lynn at 5.00pm.

    This thread is for people who want to share their story about a suicide in their family.

Thu 21st November 2013

Good week for White Ribbon – Not

As White Ribbon invest their energy and our money in a bigoted social campaign against ‘male domestic violence’ the news this week has served up a chilling slice of reality, about life in New Zealand.

On Sunday, as fate would have it, the alleged attempted murder of a Hamilton man was captured by an in-store CCTV camera, as the offender ran a car into her partner, backed up, and as he lay injured on the footpath outside of a suburban shop, ran into the man a second time.

Wed 20th November 2013

Men’s Identities – seen through their spending patterns?

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,Gender Politics,Men's Health — MurrayBacon @ 8:47 pm

Social science may have largely ignored men as individuals, but there is money to be had by listening to men……

Men’s Health Australia announce release by Saachi and Saachi:

The Modern (Aussie) Man White Paper

Mon 18th November 2013

Can the mother take my 14 year old to live in Canada without my consent

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — Had_Enough @ 6:10 pm

Hi All,
I live in Australia but the mother of my children lives in NZ and is in custody of 2 of my children. Recently she has applied to the Family Court to take my 14 year old daughter to Canada whilst at the same time trying to have my guardian rights removed so I won’t have a say in the matter.

Woman Drunk Driver Victim? – Yeah Right

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 7:26 am

The media likes to call the woman a victim even when the facts are obvious.


She was caught drunk driving, let off with just her keys taken, went out of her way to drive drunk again, killed herself and injured some mates in the process.

Sun 17th November 2013


Filed under: General — triassic @ 8:57 pm

The following is a conversation that took place at the Herald’s office yesterday……

Unpaid Child Support

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 6:55 pm

The girls having a chat about how things is.

Make sure you have some form of safety device holding you into your computer chair before listening to Paula Bennett on this one.

Domestic violence caught on cctv

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 4:20 pm

The attempted murder of a man in Hamilton today.

“At this time a male pedestrian has been run over by a car driven by his 44-year-old female partner at the Ohaupo Rd shops by the intersection with Normandy Ave,” he said.

Viewer discretion advised – contains graphic footage of female violence.

Fri 15th November 2013

Judith Collins, give this Judge a job in NZ !

Filed under: General — golfa @ 7:13 pm


Sun 10th November 2013

Risk management and on-site safety

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 6:06 pm

Risk management

Sat 9th November 2013

Roast Busters

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:34 am

The events of the last few days have seen shades of village green rising across the country as the Roast Busters story unfolds. Flaming torches and pitch forks are not going to promote any level of understanding as to why this has happened – I would suggest quite the opposite.

If there is any attempt to understand this behaviour it will be claimed as the sole right of women to analyse, understand and remediate society to protect women from sexual abuse.

Any man publicly attempting to do anything other than express condemnation, can only expect to be vilified for daring to offer an opinion, but the thing is men will talk about this in smoko-rooms and pubs and if men are publicly shut out of the debate – and the solution – then all that can be expected in return is disapproval and a level of indifference. (more…)

Roast Busters and the throw away dad

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 9:16 am

I would like to focus on what lead these boys (not men as the media first suggested becasue they were 15 and 16 at the time) and to a lesser extent the girls to the situation they find themselves in today. The mere fact the girl drank until she was drunk and boys posting a video on line is testimony the boys thought at the time it was funny or they were proud of their actions.

Wed 6th November 2013

The NZ man and his lost castle

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 9:42 am

A man’s home is his castle. That’s a saying, not so old as when knights were bold – that bastion of freedom, where every man had the opportunity to own and occupy his piece of land, with little interference from the state or another man.

But within the time of living memory this has changed rapidly to a point where the house is a source of revenue not only to the demands of the banks, the local bodies, industry and worst to the aggrieved wife, not happy with her lot in life.

Mon 4th November 2013

Love him or hate him he has been one of us!

Filed under: General — Alastair @ 10:06 am

Is he being suppressed by the clobering machine?

Its worth “Googling” “Benjamin Easton” to see the causes he has fearlessky fought, including fathers rights.. I conjecture that his success gaining the publics eye championing his various “Causes” has caused the establishment to attempt to muzzle him.

Sun 3rd November 2013

Men’s concerns just a distraction

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 2:33 pm

This issue was discussed recently in the post Men’s Concerns Gaining Traction

The issue “portrayed’ as a man-ban might have not have gained traction but it would be naïve to think it doesn’t still exist in another form; that is exactly what this article says – the intent is still there, we’ll find another way to achieve this. (It turns up as number one hot potato in the leader’s debate. It has hardly gone away from within the party)

What if the Labour Party conference turned up a policy of such genius that it totally electrified the country and we all forgot about the price of power?

Labour’s gender quota gets go-ahead

Labour has approved a gender quota that will ensure 45 per cent of its MPs are women after the next election and at least 50 per cent are women in 2017.


Fri 1st November 2013

Douglas Graham knighthood

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:00 am

The Lombard Finance Company collapse, the losses and the roll-on effect on its investors is a well-known story in New Zealand.

Prime Minister John Key announced today that Sir Douglas will retain his knighthood. (more…)

Thu 31st October 2013

Deputy Principal won’t give me my sons school report

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Had_Enough @ 2:16 pm


My son is a Year 12 student at a large college in Hamilton. He was formerly in my custody but has been in his mother’s custody since 2008. The mother and I don’t get on and as a result of this she is quite obstructive and won’t send me copies of my sons school reports.

Norway debates divorce

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:35 pm

Norwegian parents should go on date nights to help reduce the country’s soaring divorce rate, the [Norwegian] government says.

Solveig Horne, the country’s minister for children, equality and social inclusion, has set herself the goal of strengthening families and reducing the divorce rate, which at 40 per cent is one of the highest in Europe.


Tue 29th October 2013

Who owns the life of the unborn?

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 6:22 pm

Stuff story

A Wellington taxi driver has been found not guilty of driving carelessly after a collision that claimed the life of his unborn son.

Bililigne Gebretsadik, 41, has pleaded not guilty to three charges of careless driving, two of causing injury and one of careless driving causing the death of his unborn child in June last year.

At 31 weeks’ pregnant his wife, Seble Cherie, was a passenger in a car Gebretsadik was driving. She was injured and lost the baby after an emergency caesarean section in Wellington Hospital.

But wait just a minute … can’t a woman walk into abortion clinic and demand an abortion? Yet this man is charged with causing the death of ‘his’ unborn child?

Is this equality of the sexes?

A conversation with art

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 3:57 pm

the future

I saw this today and thought, this is such a relevant piece of art in today’s social climate. I have no idea who the artist is.

Multi-tasking manslaughter

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:20 am

A Wellington woman spoke on the phone for more than eight minutes as her 15-month-old baby drowned in the bath, a jury has heard.

Stuff News

She then made two separate calls to her parents, trying to arrange for a rug doctor to clean the carpets later that day.

This will be interesting to see how the jury view this; whether they excuse this mother’s negligence as she has suffered the loss of a child or they hold the woman to account for prioritising the housework above the well being of a child.

Updated 31 October The jury return their verdict.

A Wellington mother has been found not guilty of killing her 13-month-old son, who drowned in the bath while she spoke on the phone.

In the High Court in Wellington this afternoon, a jury of seven men and five woman found the woman’s fatal mistake to talk on the phone for eight minutes while her child bathed was not bad enough too warrant a conviction for manslaughter.

Mon 28th October 2013

Women’s Refuge talks up domestic violence

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:10 am

Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Police-trial-new-system-to-tackle-domestic-violence/tabid/423/articleID/318946/Default.aspx#ixzz2ixgsKNJo

“We know that New Zealand offenders score very highly compared to our Canadian counterparts and we’re very concerned about that,” says Kiri Hannifin of Women’s Refuge.

The origins of ODARA as shown in a previous post are Canadian and relate specifically to marital assaults by husbands on their wives.


Filed under: General — Downunder @ 8:40 am

Brief Spousal Assault Form for the Evaluation of Risk or B-SAFER

This is a form that has been developed by the New Zealand Police along side the modified version of the Canadian ODARA domestic violence predictive assessment tool.

Do we have any information on the purpose and use of information?

It is possible these B-SAFER forms are turning up in Family Court proceedings. Do we have the situation now where the police are absent witnesses in Family Court cases.

Sun 27th October 2013


Filed under: Domestic Violence,General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 2:32 pm

Anyone heard of ODARA.

New Zealand Police are now using the ‘Ontario Domestic Assault Risk Assessment’ ODARA for short, imported from Canada.

ODARO is a predictive assessment to determine the likelyhood of a person deemed to have assaulted their partner assaulting them again. The results rank a person on a scale of 0 – 13, 13 being most likely to assault their partner again.

From what I have read so far there is no indication of when the system is used or exactly how the assessment is made or whether it has been modified in anyway from the original Candaian model.

What does concern me is the suggestion that the assessment may be an automatic includion in a bail hearing. Why bother having a bail hearing before a judge if a man’s liberty is determined by a pimply faced kid ticking boxes which pre-determines that he is already guilty of the offence and might offend again. It fact why bother paying for a public defender when it is already a forgone conclusion according to this systematic assessment.

This could be an interesting discussion if we could find out a little more about it.

Thu 24th October 2013

Young Japanese going their own way

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:34 pm

This is an article about Japan that appears in Fox News

This trend in Japan has been mentioned here before. It would be interesting to know how extensive the trend is in Asia and the reasons behind it. Certainly a population’s future could be severely tested with such a trend.

The bizarre trend, dubbed by the Japanese media as “celibacy syndrome,” was reported in a widely circulated article from the Guardian, which noted that the number of single people in Japan has reached an all-time high. According to a 2011 survey, approximately 60 percent of men and nearly 50 percent of women aged 18 to 34 were not in a romantic relationship, and another survey found that a third of Japanese people under 30 had never dated anyone before.

Original article quoted at The Guardian. (more…)

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