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Mon 29th September 2014

The Men of Middle Earth

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:27 pm

Affectionately named Middle Earth after our involvement in The Lord of the Rings production, one can’t help thinking, that to the rest of the world New Zealand might look like the scene of one of Tolkien’s legendary battles, following our recent and ugly parliamentary election; just how you would characterise the Labour Party after their tragic loss, I will leave to the imagination of the reader.

But what of the men of middle earth – where has that left us?

That discussion started in the post, The Killing Power of Feminism, and drew the conclusion; (more…)

Sat 27th September 2014

Are All Men Pedophiles?

Filed under: General — triassic @ 4:01 am


This documentary is a great study into male sexuality. Be sure to watch it past the end credits for a commentary by the Director Jan-Willem Breure. The amount of information on female sexuality has nearly filled the universe so this doco is very welcome. Male sexuality hardly gets a mention other than the negative aspects. There are many things that we know about the subject but an abundance of things we don’t. What I liked about this doco is its juxtaposition of the medias interpretation of pedophilia to that of sexologists. The disgust men feel about pedophilia, and those that practice it, prevents healthy discourse. The male desire for the shape of the female body past puberty is NORMAL, HEALTHY and should never bring a sense of shame. What is shameful is when males have no control over that desire and no respect for the person, whose body it belongs to.

Fri 26th September 2014

The Killing Power of Feminism

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:42 am

Election 2014 for New Zealand is over.

It’s been an interesting election in many ways, some of which are discussed on this site in posts over the last 6 months while others are so not relevant to us here; collectively this has been overwhelming, in the media and on the outcome of the election, but what should not escape us is the dramatic and very real depiction of political feminism in action. (more…)

Thu 25th September 2014

Child Support and Salary Sacrifice. Are they F’n Serious!!!!!!

Filed under: Child Support,General,Law & Courts — Had_Enough @ 4:22 pm

Hi Folks,

Well there I was thinking I could salary package my car and try and save a bit on tax and running costs each year. But, stupid me hadn’t realised, until I read the following article http://www.salarypackagingcards.com.au/index.php/child-support-salary-packaging/ , that if I salary package my car I will have to pay even more in Child Tax. I confirmed this with the Novated Leasing agent and it is in fact true. I still can’t believe it and I hope it isn’t the same in NZ but it’s certainly the case over here in Oz. So, by some magic form of creative accounting the CSA people calculate that I am being given a car which I’m actually paying for and calculate the whole thing as a fringe benefit. It seems that I can’t even take a dump without incurring more child tax. I am utterly gob smacked. Have any of you guys come across a similar thing. It seems like discrimination is a bad thing unless the discrimination is against a liable parent. I feel like a social leper. All my colleagues are salary sacrificing their cars and are saving money but it will actually cost me money because I am a liable dad!!!

Wed 24th September 2014

Social Workers Day – lest we forget

Filed under: General — Bruce S @ 8:25 pm

Courtesy of YAHOO NEWS – Comments were disabled (no surprises there)

Social Workers Day a time to celebrate – PSA
PSA, Fuseworks September 24, 2014, 7:49 pm

The Public Service Association (PSA) is celebrating Social Workers Day today, and congratulates the Aotearoa New Zealand Association of Social Workers (ANZASW) on 50 years of being the voice of the profession.

Glenn Barclay, PSA acting national secretary, said “social workers help countless New Zealanders every year,” “The PSA is proud of what our social work members do to help improve the lives of people across the country. “As the union for social workers, we represent over a thousand highly skilled and hardworking people who are passionate about helping people thrive. “Social workers do their jobs in a wide variety of settings, including District Health Boards; Child, Youth and Family, and across the community sector. “This year is the 50th anniversary of ANZASW, and we’re proud to work alongside them to help social workers do their best. “Thank you to all social workers, we truly value your skills, expertise and passion,” said Glenn Barclay.

Surely Barclay wasn’t referring to CYFS was he? Improving “the lives of people across the country”; maybe improving the lot for employees of CYFS but certainly not the children and families who have had to suffer their PC, bureaucratic and autocratic intolerance.

Social workers day – surely a day to forget.

Men’s Rights Sydney

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 1:36 pm

The MRS website It’s a terrible acronym, isn’t it. Maybe even worse than MOMA (Ministry of Men’s Affairs).

They exist, it’s a point of contact, and they hold meetings. So if you’re a male escaping New Zealand and headed to Sydney, could be a good place to start.

Men’s Rights Sydney usually meets once a month in the suburb of Newtown. As we are still a fairly young group, meetings are being organised on an ad hoc basis. If you are interested in attending, just send us a PM containing your name (first name is fine) & your email address & we will email you the details of our next meeting.

There could be an opening for reciprocal trade in males escaping the tyranny of the system, if we had a comparative organisation in Auckland (MRA)

On a historical note – we’re probably in better position than the Woman’s Libbers. Wellington organisation for women (WOW) was ok, but Christchurch and Southland groups had a bit of a problem with the format.

Tue 23rd September 2014

Non Resident for Tax Purposes. Does IRD still enforce Collection now that she’s abroad permanently?

Filed under: Child Support — Had_Enough @ 7:41 pm

Sorry about the boring title folks but I am a bit curious about how IRD can force me to pay Child Support after the mother has been out of the country for a year or more. The mother of my children has taken my 2 kids to Canada to live permanently. All 3 (her and the 2 kids) have both NZ and Canadian citizenship. They relocated about 3 months ago. So, they now live permanently in Canada and I live in Australia where I’ve been for the past 5 years. IRD seem to think that I will have to keep paying and paying and paying until my youngest is 19. It seems a bit odd to me that they can enforce this when she’s living in another country and they have no way of knowing if, for example, my daughter is working full time. Come to think of it IRD don’t really have any way of keeping tabs on her at all now that she’s under a foreign countries jurisdiction. Does anyone out there know anything about the IRD CS laws and how they apply to this situation? Can she initiate an Admin Review against me for example now that she’s permanently relocated overseas? Thanks in advance.

NZ IRD make a spectacle of Terry Serepisos

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:57 pm

Serepisos arrested at airport:

Bankrupt property developer Terry Serepisos says he is “flabbergasted” after being arrested at the airport over a few thousand dollars in unpaid child support. (more…)

Mon 22nd September 2014

Emma Watson Delivers Stirring Speech at U.N.

Filed under: General — pcObelix @ 10:44 pm

Late night browsing…okay not that late and came across this one……maybe someone finally gets it

Sun 21st September 2014

A Feminist adjustment in New Zealand Election

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:28 pm

Old sayings are often a reflection of a different era and in effect become modern day myths. One such saying that comes to mind is that men only vote for their wallet. When they had families to support they may have been more inclined to do so, but this election has put the saying firmly in the myth category.

The National Party has seen an impressive win under our current electoral system (similar to the German MMP system); did men go running to National because of their wallets? No, of course they didn’t, Labour was offering a $2.00 an hour increase in the minimum wage.

Did men abandon Labour? Yes, of course they did as was discussed in NZ Labour and the feminist election campaign; even they admit it.

Was that enough to give National such a resounding success or is there more to it than that? (more…)

Fri 19th September 2014

Internet Mana Feminist Party

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 2:23 pm

It came out loud and clear as far back as July that election 2014 was going to be the election of the feminist, or so THEY thought. Most of the relevant posts can be accessed through a previous post New Zealand Labour and the Feminist Election Campaign.

The post election analysis is going to be interesting, not only for what we might say here, but what the New Zealand media might actually say about it.

The campaign got even more overt when Internet-Mana announced that it WAS a ‘feminist party – one step up on Labour running a feminist campaign whilst trying to pretend that they weren’t really a feminist party. (more…)

Wed 17th September 2014

NZ Labour and the Feminist Election Campaign (2)

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 3:22 pm

This is a discussion that started back in a July post NZ Labour and the Feminist Election Campaign

The election wallpaper is pretty much all hung now and the pre post-election analysis is already beginning – as you can see in this article from Duncan Garner.

There are some interesting points coming out of a conversation with a Labour candidate: (more…)

Who’s Lying, Who’s Self-Justifying? Origins of the He Said/She Said Gap in Sexual Allegations

Filed under: Gender Politics,Sex Abuse / CYF — JohnPotter @ 9:21 am

The Woody Allen sex scandal of 2013 triggered a national conversation on who to believe, with people lining up on each side as if they knew what really happened.

Based on recent research on how people navigate the often tricky waters of sexual negotiation, Dr. Carol Tavris shows that it is entirely possible in some sexual assault cases neither side is lying, but instead both sides feel justified in their positions.

This talk was considered one of the best ever given at The 2014 Amazing Meeting.

Mon 15th September 2014

Dad’s evening in Wellington – Father & Child Trust

Filed under: Events,General — JohnPotter @ 4:14 pm

Father & Child are making a second attempt to get a branch started in Wellington.

Sun 14th September 2014

Family Court Lawyers ‘Feral’

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 7:58 am

Steve Taylor, who is eighth on the Conservative list, and will make it to Parliament if the party gets 6-7 per cent of the vote, is vowing to advocate for “radical change to the fractured and toxic matrix that is the New Zealand Family Court” if he is elected. He also promises to name offenders who have name suppression.


Increasing Drug Deaths for Men

Filed under: General,Men's Health — Downunder @ 7:33 am

Something that has become apparent to me during the last year is the sea change in the British Media around the reporting of men’s issues. I am not making any claim that their media has lost all sexist bias, but certainly there has been a significant change in the nature of their reporting.

When I saw this graphic, naturally it made me think, what is the situation in New Zealand?


Sat 13th September 2014

No vote for New Zealand Prisoners

Filed under: Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 11:50 am

The subject was discussed recently in The Rights of Men (2)

Quinn’s Act passed in 2010 introduced a blanket ban removing the right of a prisoner to the vote. The law has been challenged by an Auckland Prison inmate, Arthur Taylor, as being inconsistent with our Treaty of Waitangi and our Bill of Rights.

A decision was released late yesterday NZ time by Justice Ellis as reported here by Radio New Zealand (RNZ). (more…)

Wed 10th September 2014

The right of the child to know

Many men who have visited the MENZ site will be interested in this decision which relates to birth certificates.

STUFF NEWS artice: the truth will shock boy

The complete article is quoted below: (more…)

The Rights of Men (2)

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 2:17 pm

Today we have an interesting case being heard in the New Zealand High Court, on the right of a prisoner to vote. Not a prisoner, eh …

… not expecting to be a prisoner anytime soon?

… doesn’t affect me?

Go back to The Rights of Men.


The Rights of Men

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:14 am

We often talk about the disposable male; I attribute this phrase to Warren Farrell, but only because that’s where I heard it first.

In being disposable the corollary is that male rights must also be disposable. Just to be clear, I am not talking male rights v female rights (which we often compare on this site) but simply our rights within a civil society.

At this point you’re thinking, ‘can I be bothered getting into this philosophical rubbish’? I just want to get on with my life.

But that’s just it, how can you get on with life when your rights are arbitrarily dismissed, impeded, or removed? (more…)

Tue 9th September 2014

Lotto Fathers Day promotion

Filed under: General — pcObelix @ 3:02 pm

Sexist or not.

The 2014 lotto promotion for Fathers Day featured 20 prizes…..

The 2014 lotto Mothers Day promotion featured 100 prizes……

I have asked lotto why, but as yet have not received a reply…….

Mon 8th September 2014

Important info for ALL young MEN

Filed under: General — triassic @ 3:02 pm

What I have learnt in this life is-

1. Injustice or the the lack of justice is unavoidable.

2. Justice is finite. It is estimated there is only 2 billion tons of justice in the universe.

Tue 2nd September 2014

Child Support 103 – What Remains of John

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 3:25 pm

The continuing story of John the Grain Farmer and The Drained Man.

It was a small funeral, mostly the grain farmers from the hostel.

The children sat with their mother, listening intently to the few men that got up and spoke about John, hoping they might hear a little about the father they never knew.

The three boys had only ever known what their mother had told them, that he was married to the land and not to her, although they didn’t quite understand how that worked. (more…)

Child Support 102 – The Drained Man

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:41 pm

The continuing story of John the Grain Farmer.

John was too old to be a farm labourer now, and nobody wanted to hire him anymore – he had no choice but to move to the city. He didn’t like the city but he hoped he could find work there.

The officer of the city always seemed to know where he was, and called on him once a month demanding the grain he owed the city, always checking to see that he wasn’t hiding anything that could be traded for grain.

He now owed the city more grain than he had ever produced in his best year. (more…)

Child support 101 – The Grain Farmer

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:07 am

There was once a grain farmer named John, who worked hard on his land and produced 10 tons of grain a year. His wife became annoyed with him, saying, the land was his mistress and that he did not pay enough attention to her.

She took their children and moved to the city.

John’s wife had no income and asked the city to support her because she had children to raise – she was given a house and money.

At the end of the season an officer from the city came to the farm and without asking took 3 tons of grain, telling John, it was to support his children. (more…)

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