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Sat 19th September 2015

Cyber Bullying and Suicide

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:21 am

This article Cyber bullying’s fatal connection reports correctly that more than 500 NZers commit suicide every year, but as usual makes no mention of the fact that about 80% of them a males. At least this article does focus on one male who apparently committed suicide after extensive cyber bullying. It also reports college principal Jim Luders stating

“Cyber bullying is hard to control. Adolescent girls, especially Year 9 in particular, are very aggressive in their attacks.”

In the light of such evidence, isn’t it amazing that the feminist propaganda machine is still able to convince so much of the public that males are the violent undesirable perpetrators and females the innocent morally superior victims.

The recommendations usually offered by authorities concerning cyber bullying and other internet dangers usually revolve around maintaining greater scrutiny and control of their children and teenagers’ internet use. Fat chance, especially since parental authority was chopped off at the knees by Bradfordonian false argument and feminist ideology.

14 Responses to “Cyber Bullying and Suicide”

  1. MurrayBacon says:

    Dear MoMA,

    thank you for bringing this topic back to our attention. This problem is ongoing and as serious as 500+ lives per year is worth. (Probably a fraction of car accidents and industrial accidents are unrecognised suicides too.)

    IRD’s Genocide of Separated Fathers

    Father’s suicides or parental suicides?

  2. DJ Ward says:

    How evil can women be when you give them a camera? and the internet?
    At least the public can see the bullshit.
    How often do women do this and get paid out?
    As is shown in other versions of female sexual predatory activity, male sports stars are the most sexually abused members of our community.

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/model-18-tried-to-blackmail-professional-hockey-player-and-became-the-butt-of-jokes/story-fno61i58-1227539914401

  3. Voices back from the bush. says:

    Hi DJ.
    Yes the article doesn’t mention there’s any police investigating the blackmail. She is just receiving online riddicule which I’m sure she can block or just get her tits out and say come back to my page again soon and meet my friends. This is likely a career revival tactic in spite of the articles claim that it might hurt her career. Blackmailing him threatening to destroy his personal life and likely his career is considered no big deal.
    It doesn’t even mentioned she has apologised. Sometimes models get frustrated they’re not getting enough exposure so they pull these stunts.
    She should be punished in court for this and her penalty should include no smartphone and no Internet for 10 years or so.
    She will likely repeat her efforts since there’s no real punishment or crime recorded. She will probably go for the “I was raped” line next time.
    I’ve even seen these -women pout thier lips on rare occasions that theyre getting mugshots taken.

  4. Vman says:

    There are twice as many suicides in New Zealand than there are road deaths.
    75% – 80% of suicide victims are males.
    The highest age group of male suicide victims is the 20-24 age group.
    The second highest age group of male suicide victims is the 45-49 age group.
    Males by far die from suicide in every single age group bracket.
    The official government suicide prevention strategy has no policy directed towards males. In fact is explicitly states that suicide is not a gender problem – when clearly it is. This has been the same for many years.
    The way that the government avoids addressing the male predominance in suicide is to say that suicidal thoughts/tendancies are all the same as deaths. So a girl thinking a half hearted attempt at suicide as a call for attention is equal to a male killing himself. Therefore there is no particular need to investigate the specific factors leading to male suicide.

    There are 7 goals. Each with several action plans.
    None of these are directed at males.

    There are ones for youth, ones for Maori. Basically every demographic EXCEPT for the group most effected by suicide. Males.

    This has always been the case for many years.

    Goal 7 is ” Expand the evidence about rates, causes and effective interventions”
    However as far as I know there has never been and still isn’t any funding to research the role things that fathers have been lobby about for decades.
    For example the family court, denied contact with children, unreasonable child support, etc.

    One of the main pillars of the strategy is and has always been to control what the media report about suicide and hence discourage reporting. That way we don;t have to dig too deep in this obvious bias against men.

    The reality is that ideology is more important than 400+ men’s lives per year.

  5. voices back from the bush says:

    This problem of domestic violence is frustrating in many ways.

    Suicide Victims somehow don’t count as victims of DV.

    If you are a male having difficulties and having thoughts of suicide you should try to talk about it right?

    Yet If you mention your frustrations to a female you are in a relationship with you are most likely abusing her.
    Agencies should be called in to help your victim.
    Men killing themselves as a result of their anguish is not considered to be a problem- talking about it is a crime.
    This crap is repeated by all female agencies who consider that to be a victim of anything you must be a child or a female.
    I see this as another glaring example of misandry causing death by misleading the Victim identity process with predetermined gender-bias.

    This clipping from a typical article is part of the reason male suicide is ignored.

    Many don’t think of threats of suicide being a part of domestic violence, but it’s a very common tactic used by abusers to make the victim/survivor feel they are responsible. Threats of suicide may allow the abuser to maintain control over the victim/survivor.

    Threats of suicide often occur when the victim/survivor is getting ready to leave or has already left the abusive situation. Often the abuser will include the children in his threat by indicating they will do it in front of them, or in extreme cases threaten to kill the children and/or the victim first before taking their own lives. It’s so common that it’s included in the power and control wheel, a tool used by advocates and victims to help identify the types of abuse they have been experiencing.

    – See more at: http://turningpoint.areavoices.com/2012/09/25/suicide-and-domestic-violence/#sthash.VzFh9EoV.dpuf

  6. DJ Ward says:

    #5
    “Men killing themselves as a result of their anguish is not considered to be a problem- talking about it is a crime.”

    Yes and their is an example taking place now.
    Although there is efforts to try to help. Why? because if the public did find out there would be outrage!

    I have my air to the ground within the diary industry.
    Large numbers are in a desperate state. Many after years of hard work, with small capital gains, are seeing all those years of gains whipped out. Their dreams destroyed. Many have short/medium term, but impossible cash flow issues.
    This is very similar to the family court experience for men.

    Large numbers of sharemilkers have sold up and walked out of their contracts, etc.
    I cant confirm the truth as you can imagine that its a very sensitive thing, second hand but a source I trust.

    A male farmer has gone and shot dead every one of his cows (hundreds), then he has shot himself. I have been told about others as well, with tanker drivers having to be put on leave due to what they have walked into.

    Great!
    Give the boss a large pay rise. That will help?

  7. voices back from the bush says:

    @6 Perhaps the best way to alert society to the plight of farmers is to phone wimmins refuse and tell them of these concerns and remind them that most cows on farms are female.
    Breaking news:

    “Man kills female stock”… then kills himself

  8. voices back from the bush says:

    suicide.org has a page devoted to the correlation between suicide and DV.

    As usual it only refers to females as being capable of DV victimisation.
    It also claims suicide affects all ages and genders equally.

    On suicide it says:

    Suicide Myth
    People who talk about suicide are trying to manipulate others.

    Suicide Fact
    No. People who talk about suicide are in pain and need help. And telling them that they “just want something” or “are trying to manipulate” is both insensitive and ignorant. People often talk about suicide before dying by suicide. Always take talk about suicide seriously. Always.

    This contradicts what the article above says, in fact it claims they are insensitive and ignorant!
    Why is there no feminists that can explain this to me?

    Because I think the power and control wheel has got a bit a loose spoke.?

  9. Voices back from the bush. says:

    For those in Auckland concerned about men in NZ prisons, you may be interested to know of this event on Wednesday night.
    Sorry not to be able to give more notice, I just got word of it today.

    The recent events at Mt Eden Prison has generated a lot of debate and concern about the state of prisons in New Zealand. Prison privatisation has also drawn a lot of attention as result. This highlights the issues that exist within the current prison system and the importance for us to understand and carry on the discussion.

    JustSpeak Auckland invites you to a public forum that looks to continue this conversation. Along with a panel of speakers, we will explore what prison privatisation in New Zealand currently looks like, the issues that exist within our current system and will consider what the possible solutions there are for this.

    Speakers include:
    Kelvin Davis – Labour Party MP and Corrections Spokesperson
    Mike Williams – CEO of New Zealand Howard League for Penal Reform
    John Buttle – Criminology Lecturer at AUT University
    Morrin Whareumu – National Treasurer for Corrections Association of New Zealand

    Please join us for a panel-style discussion on Wednesday 30th September from 6:30-8:00pm. Drinks and nibbles will be available from 6.00pm. At the University of Auckland, General Library B10 Lecture Theatre (Downstairs).

    The event is free and everyone is welcome.

  10. DJ Ward says:

    Impending doom on our doorstep!
    Yes they have finally noticed.
    Nobody wants to be a teacher any more.

    I should correct that.
    Because the author couldn’t. (the feminist persecution of opinion thing)
    Plenty of people want to be teachers.
    But no males (only 1 in 9 teacher students are male).

    If males felt safe being a teacher.
    If males new they would be doing a course were they are not taught to hate men.
    If males were not forced to present feminist idealism to students.
    If males were not subject to female centric workplaces.
    If males could apply for a job were the principle goes (welcome, we are one of the small number of schools with a male teachers allowed policy)
    Would more males be teachers?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/education/news/article.cfm?c_id=35&objectid=11519060

    It may take years.
    But watch this space.
    Like I said.
    Impending doom!

    Yes the feminist win.
    Lets bully males, so the education system suicides itself.

  11. Downunder says:

    There’s a point at which the education system stops schooling in the necessities of life and the primary disciplines and starts indoctrinating.

    How far down the feminist tract are we?

  12. Downunder says:

    DJ Ward, You’re too hopeful. The education system won’t suicide itself.

    We’ve seen the transition in universities to majority female graduates.

    What you’ll see next is a shortage of males in year 12 and 13 in high schools limiting the numbers of males moving to university.

    You’re right that ultimately the system will fail, but it will continue on its way as long as it is able to.

    It won’t be a suicide; it will be a long, slow, painful, drawn-out death, with a lot of bewildered females looking on, scratching their heads … going WTF.

  13. DJ Ward says:

    New suicide stats out today.
    Nothing new for people who look at men’s issues.

    Quote from article.
    Mental Health Foundation director of programme design Moira Clunie said research showed that most people who attempted suicide didn’t want to die.
    “They just want their pain to end or can’t see another way out of their situation,”
    I agree with Moira Clunie.
    So what is it that causes men to experience so much pain?
    What are those things that males can’t fix?
    Here is a clue.
    The Maori suicide rate of almost 22 for every 100,000 was much higher than any other ethnic group.
    The question then becomes, what is it that these males experience ‘more’, than other groups?
    It is not in the article but as a gender issue I would be interested in the female Maori rate compared to other groups and the male Maori rate compared to other population groups, when looking at different subjects.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11524628

    My own experience with suicide.
    I don’t claim in any way that my experience is normal, rational, or a way to measure others.

    My first decision to suicide was at the age of ten, although I was having issues (including hospital) well before this age (I had worked out I think differently by 3). This is in the ‘so much pain’ section. I would say that actually the argument is ‘look at what I have dealt with in my past, and the suffering it has caused me, and look at the future because it is only more suffering.’
    The issue of having to deal with suicidal thoughts however, never went away, and has recurred, sometimes becoming a continuous state of mind throughout my life.
    It is extremely rare for someone to notice, probably due to being in that state of mind, is normal for me. My partner, of more than a decade, or workmates etc, can virtually never see it.
    Hence why many suicides are ‘I never saw that coming’ by those around the person that has suicided.
    I was faced with ‘males can’t fix’ at 21, which ultimately has led me to being here on Menz.
    In 2004 I found myself in the darkest place I had been to (pretty much dawn to dusk for a year, plus insomnia, plus if I did wake up, I was thinking about it in my sleep as well), but found a new strategy for myself to use to keep myself safe. Suicide thoughts are often very repetitive, getting stuck in the same place and restarting, the mind trying to find an answer that is not there. I learnt that in that state of mind, if I ask a different ‘safe, but also impossible to answer’ questions, then some answers are not what I would expect.

    Anxiety disorders, combined with the little errors of life, don’t help.
    Drug use is often included as a cause, but I think that’s nearly always wrong. Drug use is an indication that they have escaped to a refuge, where things don’t get fixed.

    I have always been able to come to the conclusion that suicide is irrational, but I can see how those caught in the psychological nightmare, cannot come to this conclusion.
    I do deals with myself to keep going, EG we have this in 3 days, so we will deal with it after that etc. Or by personal experience, the worst things that happen can be at the same time, or day, that the best things happen. Things are really bad, so something really good is happening, what is it? Actually, what is the worst that could happen?

    I have in the past got help, but ‘males can’t fix’ situations are not things that help works well with.

    Am I sane? Yes, presently.
    Am I 100%? That’s an answer that applies to the perception of the individual.

    I’m joining Murray. I think I need a mental health break.

  14. Ministry of Men's Affairs says:

    Thanks DJ Ward (#13). Please see our response to Ms Clunie as a new post on this matter.

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