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Thu 26th February 2015

White Fibbin’ at it again

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 8:59 am

Here is the latest email campaign from the anti-male hate speakers of the White Fibbin’ Campaign. Note the statement “..our mission to end men’s violence towards women”, making their sexist, unbalanced agenda clear.

Sadly, it’s futile to try to reason with the White Fibbers. If you try to point out that violence is not exclusively a male issue, that forms of violence more commonly committed by females can be extremely harmful, or that men are in fact the most frequent victims of domestic violence and by far the most frequent victims of violence in our society generally and that even though much of that violence is committed by other men, male victims should not be treated as unimportant in any anti-violence campaign, the White Fibbers will simply delete your comments, block any further debate then justify this by denigrating you and telling lies about what you said. Given that kind of violence, you can be sure that behind the scenes the White Fibbers will be keeping records about anyone who disagrees with them, and at some stage we can expect feminist thought police to kick in our doors and imprison us on some manufactured charge.
It’s incredible that NZ men allow themselves to be hoodwinked into supporting this war against themselves. I guess the Nazis were able to get many Jews to support early anti-Jew activities. The Nazis could have learned some tricks from the White Fibbers such as “Jews, take the pledge never to commit or be silent about financial exploitation of Germans.” Unfortunately, we know where things head when we tolerate false propaganda that encourages stereotyping, blame and denigration towards a particular group.

Thank you for your support in 2014.
Fifty four percent of New Zealanders were aware of the campaign, and of those, seventeen percent took part in the campaign.
That’s a fantastic result, but there is so much more to be done.
This year we are focusing on an issue of significant importance, ‘sexual violence and the issue of consent’.
Judge Peter Boshier
White Ribbon Chair

From the chair
The White Ribbon Committee (and the Trust responsible for the campaign) have agreed to focus on the issue of sexual violence and consent.
Over the next months we will be putting together a comprehensive campaign that will take place this November.
To do this we are asking for your help, whether it’s from your workplace, your clubs, your schools or your community. The simple truth is we can’t do this alone.
We need your expertise to work with White Ribbon on the campaign, and we need your assistance to raise the funds to run this campaign, and any campaigns beyond 2015.
White Ribbon is about encouraging men to become part of the solution. This campaign will be no different in that regard, and we hope that you will support us in our mission to end men’s violence towards women.
Please share this newsletter with your friends and encourage people to join White Ribbon. We can change people’s attitudes and behaviour, but we need your help.

Let’s do this together.

17 Responses to “White Fibbin’ at it again”

  1. Downunder says:

    This is where family law blatantly falls apart.

    It is essentially law of the individual, and here’s a Family Court Judge running a hate campaign against all men.

  2. f carlisle says:

    that judge should be made to step down he clearly has a interest of conflict

  3. Downunder says:

    Yes. You’re absolutely right @f carlisle.

    Here he is, calling himself a judge. A judge of the people. The wise man who will lead the way.

    But he’s not. Boshier is a simplistic idiot, leading people astray.

  4. MurrayBacon says:

    Judge Boshier was made to step down, by the National[Sky City] Government refusing to renew his contract as principal familycaught$ judge, when the 8 year term was up. I have never heard any reasons given, apart from perhaps they hoped that by letting someone else take the helm, improvements might magically happen?

    So he retains the title judge as an honour. I believe that he could be reappointed, if anyone wanted to do that?

    I have heard of several satisfactory or even desirable things that he has done, which is far more than can be said from any other of the present incumbents. Maybe several years too late, but that was the child-dangerous actions of other “judges”, up and down the countryside. (However, our dear judge bashier did some good for the child, but left crippling legal bills, that related to hearings that should never have occurred, with the parents. So it seems that the legal worker’s interest is still paramount for judge bashier.)

    I have heard it said that it was judge boshier who had the clause about protecting the right of a child to have a good quality relationship with both parents, put into the Care of Children Act 2004. I don’t have any proof of that claim. I understand that it was a world leading concept. I am aware of the clear basis in child development and child welfare for such a clause. I don’t know why judge boshier wanted that clause included, so maybe we have to give him credit for an understanding of child welfare issues? I haven’t seen these principles put into action very often, by any NZ judge. boshier a few times, but the others? The clause is on the books, but few fathers can get it applied in familycaught$ Anyway, the clause gets some international praise, from people who don’t know how rarely it is ever acted upon! But this is all that law is in NZ.

  5. shin says:

    I will never support a white ribbon.

    Why should l as a man support a movement advertise all man as perpetrator of domestic violence.

    This people ignores male victim of D.V and they ask mans support?

    What a jock!

    No man should support this movement till they accept that fact they violence happens to everyone.

  6. Arthur says:

    I will never donate anything – cash or goods to Wimins Refuge. I will not support breast cancer charities nor white ribbon appeals. They can all take a massive hike.

  7. MurrayBacon says:

    Dear Arthur, it is a funny world. Often when women ask for something, it never really happens until some men start asking too. Funny that, peculiar? or I think it is just business as usual in our society. I can understand them getting pretty pissed off and frustrated.

    Same for men’s issues too. While men alone ask, they seem to get nowhere. As a few women publicly advocate for men’s issues, things eventually start to happen. Maybe just business as usual again?

    So, I suggest that there is a constructive conclusion to be drawn. Discuss, negotiate and also refuse to come to the table when that is appropriate. Then work together for orgasms, sorry I mean workable constructive solutions that respect all party’s interests.

    Cheers…..

  8. Warren Tooley says:

    As far as I’m concerned all this is about, is that when their is a marriage split, someone looks after the child, and someone needs to pay up. And by demonising men, this only helps them out.

    Still have you noticed that the signs that they had have got scarcer and scarcer. That’s because I pointed out in 850 fliers, that what they were doing was misleading conduct. They say 33% of women get into a violent relationship. This means if the average woman has gone on 20 dates, 33%/20 = 1.67%, meaning 1.67% of men are violent. By saying on their old signs to donate, this means it is under the laws of commerce. By using 33% to get money out of people, when the true statistics are probably more like 1.67%. And then of course the statistics of violence against men are no less. So by putting this info into 850 people’s mailboxes, with a lot of other issues. I’ve noticed those signs that ask for money are gone. And that’s why their other signs have been scarce. Because you see the ministry of social development backs them, and they don’t want to look bad now do they, and that’s what I advised people to do in my fliers.

    Still they are doing what they can, as aggressively as possible. So I think I might put some more fliers out later on. But yeah, a month after those fliers, those signs asking to donate were gone.

  9. Doug says:

    Bouchier is a shocker alright but was anyone else alarmed by judge Lowell Goddard’s comments recently? She has been appointed in the UK to investigate historical sex abuse allegations and was on the news saying that she was there to get justice for 10,000 survivors.
    Excuse me but the inquiry hasn’t even started and she has already assumed there are 10,000 valid cases? And don’t the loaded feminist terms she’s using tell us exactly where her prejudices lie? Be very afraid, men of Britain. But on the bright side this will keep her out of our hair for a few years. Judicial independence?

  10. Man X Norton says:

    Doug (#9): The witch-hunt against men is spreading rapidly in the UK and will do so in NZ too. Once a finger is pointed at any man, inquisitors like Goddard will ensure they find some way to judge him guilty. Thumb-screws have now been replaced with grinding down accused witches verbally, emotionally and financially. Other than that, things are not that much different from the Inquisitions. Acceptable evidence against men now is often no more valid than calling a skin blemish ‘the mark of the devil’, as was commonly done in order to convict witches. Accusations are allowed to be treated as sufficient evidence requiring nothing else to corroborate them. Although we don’t tend to burn convicted men alive nowadays, the punishments for predominantly male crimes are much more severe than that for almost all other crimes. The harm claimed to be caused by many sexual offences is often no more real than the kinds of harm that used to be attributed to witch activities. Societies seem to enjoy witch hunts and refuse to retain what they learned from the terrible mistakes of the last ones.

  11. julie says:

    How do I view the front page of the Sunday Star Times? (latest addition)

    It’s about a woman hiring a MRA for a hit.

    A link would be awesome but directions on ‘how to’ would be good also.

  12. julie says:

    Oh, apologies. I have only heard it’s about the hit. That’s why I am looking for it.

  13. Doug says:

    And when Goddard is finished in the UK she will probably come back here full of new ideas, new contacts and a righteous fury to clean up NZ and make a name for herself. I remember during the Peter Ellis travesty of justice that British “experts” were being consulted, god help us if Ms Goddard returns with an address book full of new friends.

  14. julie says:

    Ah, not an easy task (finding front page of Sunday Star Times). Back to the drawing board for me, lol. Have a great night, all. 🙂

  15. MurrayBacon says:

    The brutal truth about domestic violence

    Miranda Devine
    Saturday, April 04, 2015 (10:10pm)

    THE domestic violence bandwagon has been taken up with such gusto by the professionally virtuous that it is becoming meaningless.

    The chattering classes have latched on to it as their feminist cause cé lèbre, with the dangers of knee-jerk reactions from authorities ensuring ­future miscarriages of justice.

    Take Cape York Labor MP Billy Gordon. He denies ­allegations of domestic violence and, in our system of justice, we’re supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

    Instead, Gordon is being pressured to quit parliament on the strength of allegations from an ex-partner of 23 years, which only surfaced when he was elected. But he is guilty of being a man, so to hell with the presumption of innocence.

    Thirty-year-old break-and-enter offences are dredged up to besmirch his character, sending the message to anyone trying to break out of the cycle of despair in indigenous communities that rehabilitation is never a prospect.

    We’re told domestic violence is an ‘epidemic’, and statistics are cited that make virtually every man in Australia an incipient woman-basher.

    ……

    That may be due, in part, to the misguided privacy laws in NSW which forbid the publication of photographs of dead children who are the subject of court matters. Without a name and a face to humanise a case, media outlets don’t have a story to tell, and compassionate strangers aren’t moved enough to campaign for change.

    Around the country every day increasing numbers of children are tortured, abused, and neglected. They are trapped in a living hell to which they are returned over and over by authorities; ­ignored by a society afraid to create another Stolen Generation.

    That’s an epidemic. That’s a crisis. And, unlike adult women in abusive ­relationships, the children have no choice.

  16. Allan Harvey says:

    Domestic violence at an all time low. Panic, funding is attached to keeping the perception high!!
    “Guilty of being a man”. Reminds me of a NZ politician who was sorry for that offence. Didn’t stop Karen elbowing him aside and out the door of the family home though.

  17. Brad says:

    The Temporary Protection Order, may be claimed to be the new master stroke which has contributed to the all time low. Some seemitmas the new turn key solution for legal aid handed out like confettie and without notice. This mew toy enables the father to either spend money in its defense or go to the airport in horror as thousands have been forced to.

    When the police delivered mine the policeman apologised and said ” gee I am doing a lot of this stuff , I don’t know why”. He took the time to go through it with its special conditions.

    The children need protecting
    The mother needs protecting

    Special Condition
    The shared care parenting order still applies. So you still have the children in your care half the time.

    Go figure, the mother,s third attempt at a protection order, the other two defended successfully, each at a cost of about 7,000 dollars. Now though, a new toy for her to play with, the without notice temporary protection order with special conditions : shared care still applies. I genuinely believe that the court simply dosent know what to do, they are devoid of ideas. In 23 hearings counsel for the child has worked hard to illustrate conflict yet offered no soloutions. It seems that this is because conflict perpetuates his role, soloutions end it.

    I have appliesd a formula to his driving submissions called the conflict to soloutions ratio. You simply add up the number of times utterances of conflict are referred to in his hackenyed submissions, compare that to his submission on the Internet which went before Parliment ( re reforms) which bangs on about the importance of the role of counsel for the child, speedy resolutions and a reduction in hearings due to Counsel,s involvement then consider the outcomes for the children, and the reality of 23 hearings in the gender biased Family Court Process

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