- promoting a clearer understanding of men's experience -
By way of contribution to the male side of gender issues, we have published our first few video clips on YouTube. They are about a major issue for men, suicide. We have commenced with increasing insight into the problem and providing helpful advice, and will soon progress to consider the scandalous political and media treatment of this matter.
Please spread links widely to this video series.
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Hi Hans, great to see your tackling the hardest men’s issue first.
Constructive critisism is the intent of my comments!
1st clip- You present well Hanz, clean shaven and sharp.
But Then just a mans mouth silohette is visable while he poars out his pain in an unrecognisabe digitally destorted-alien voice- I found fairly unwatchable and unlistenable.
If the intention is to encourage men to allow themselves to be open an honest about thier depression and problems and come forward with thier feelings wouldnt it be better to feature a man who is not desperate to hide his identity?
I found the starwars style word scrolling to be unnessesary in getting the points across. You speak clearly enough.
The interviewers questions during Kerry’s piece sounds terribly monotone and makes the production seem like an interview for a council job.
Also when dealing with such an issue of suicide, is is wise to feature Kerry with a cabinet full of piss behind him and an opened bottle the other side of him?
The content was quite good tho.
I thought excersise might’ve been mentioned as helpful to keep depression at bay also.
This is early for MoMa productions of course, I’d love to see future clips presented in a more relaxed candid style.
Perhaps a bit like (was it) Mcphail and Gatsby, just a couple of bloke’s sharing thoughts accross a table.
Im a staunch supporter but i’m feeling depressed after watching it.
5/10.
Comment by voices back from the bush — Sun 23rd October 2016 @ 11:41 pm
Thanks for the feedback ‘voices’. We appreciate the suggestions.
Comment by Ministry of Men's Affairs — Tue 25th October 2016 @ 10:42 pm
I have seen quite a few videos about suicide in general, but very few addressing men’s suicide issues.
So thank you Hans and group, for making these videos. (I apologise that I hadn’t seen them earlier. Thanks to Downunder for drawing them to my attention.)
As Hans points out, ignoring men’s issues is surprising and disturbing, as the largest element of suicide risk in our society presently falls onto men. (Going back a hundred years in NZ, the opposite was true. About 75% of suicides were women. And for rather similar underlying reasons that the majority are now men. Loss of hope.)
There has not been much discussion about the reasons both men and women turn a relatively deaf ear to men’s suicide issues? In my opinion, this is suicide resilience’s No. 1 issue, that we need to face. Lessons on facing prostate cancer need to be transferred across to suicide resilience training.
Dr. Viv Roberts spoke men’s suicide issues in 2006: (And little has changed since he spoke.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBObPpZ0Z84
Examples of suicide triggers in UK:
https://menz.org.nz/2010/breach-of-justice-as-a-suicide-trigger/
I shared my personal experience in familycaught$
Example of delivering suicide triggers – judge dale green
https://menz.org.nz/2009/example-of-delivering-suicide-triggers-judge-dale-green/
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I was very impressed with the way that Hans’s speeches were put together. I have not seen such a blunt and straightforward presentation on men’s suicide issues, since Dr. Viv Robert’s speech in 2006.
The criticisms given above have some truth. But in some ways, they are also strength’s in my opinion.
There are so many different audiences, that it isn’t possible to perfectly communicate in one go to all of them, though Hans has done very well trying.
The visual text is a huge advantage for people with hearing difficulties (I am one).
Sensitive topics like this are very hard to put together and easy to criticise. These are the reasons that I ask people to help keep up this positive momentum.
Thanks and keep up the good work……..
Comment by MurrayBacon — Wed 12th June 2019 @ 10:02 am