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Sun 12th February 2017

Family Court Judge Somerville Retires

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:45 am

Perhaps of interest to the many fathers who were shafted and their children who were harmed by this particularly male-blaming judge.

22 Responses to “Family Court Judge Somerville Retires”

  1. triassic says:

    Its times like these that I’m disappointed I’m an atheist. If there was a God she would be big trouble in a few years time when she kicks the bucket and i might feel some joy. However the reality is that there is no judgement awaiting her or any other judge that is an asshole. Her Vicious, biased and misandric behaviour on the bench has great similarities to the destructive nature of Isis and Sharia law. I can only hope she has the most painful and horrible death possible.

  2. DJ Ward says:

    “After graduating with a law degree from Otago University, she worked at a private law firm until setting up her own all-women barrister & solicitors’ practice in Otago in 1987.”
    So if a male went to get a job at her firm they would not be allowed too.
    A judge that’s a human rights, workplace law breaking bigot.
    What a suprise.

    “Judge Somerville is a fellow of Knox College and founding member, former convener and an honorary life member of the Otago Women’s Law Society.”
    Is there an Otago Men’s Law Society?
    Nope, that would be sexist.

    “A fierce advocate for women’s rights, she was founding member and president of the NZ Association of Women Judges until stepping down last year.”
    Is there a NZ Association of Men Judges?
    Nope, that would be sexist.
    So what was her opinion about men’s rights?
    Sounds like she completely ignored that.
    They don’t have any.

    “Judge Somerville said it was difficult for some people to accept a female judge was going to decide their fate.”
    Don’t think so. Just any judge with a history of bigotry against men.
    See above.

  3. Ministry of Men's Affairs says:

    wow triassic, strong words reflecting strong feelings. Yes, unfortunately no god entity is likely to hold her to account and she will probably get much enjoyment in a long retirement with the wealth she and her husband will have amassed, content in the self-illusion that she acted for the benefit of many downtrodden sisters and repressed those ones from the bad, ahem, male gender (what use do they think they are to raising children anyway?).

    We are fast moving towards awareness that will look back on this feminist era with the same horror we now feel when reminded of the Australian ‘stolen generation’ or the South African apartheid era. Arrogant femaleists diminishing the rights and value of the male gender. Unfortunately it only tends to be politicians who are prosecuted for crimes against humanity, not judges. And of course we are still in the midst of our own stolen generation and gender apartheid era; there’s a way to go yet. Rise up, become aware, vote.

    Karma does have some applicability though, in the Dostoevsky manner at least.

  4. Voices back from the bush says:

    3, rise up, become aware, vote…

    Who can I vote for that will make the slightest improving difference to Mens rights?

  5. Jerry says:

    re 4. Voices back from the bush: ANSWER = Vladimir Putin. Russia has just scrapped the Domestic violence specific legislation. Domestic violence is however still covered by the same laws which are there for everybody – assault, manslaughter, murder etc. What a revolution that family violence should be addressed for what it is. Hopefully the gender filter has been erased along with it.

  6. Voices back from the bush says:

    Thanks Jerry, I guess as a New Zealand Man I should tow the line, shutup and realise that I dont matter. I should read the herald to be told how i should think , what I should care about, like pacifica women who all belong in leadership roles and the faster I can campaign to get them into these management positions the sooner I will be happy and we can all live in heaven on earth.
    As soon as these women get total control of my thoughts and and my life the sun will come up in a new dawn.

    There won’t be anymore domestic violence,(not against anyone that matters) once boardrooms are filled with women and transvestites.

    It turns out that I have been descriminating against all women and minorities, I’m merely a white male priveledged asshole and I belong in a zombie state of shame, remorse and guilt, along with all my for-father’s, some of who fought and died for the patriarchy and their right to beat up their women.
    In this new world children don’t need fathers anymore.

    I probably shouldn’t be telling you this as I forgot to declare my priveledge to a woman somewhere for approval to speak.
    For feminism, I should thank god everynight and hope that one day I might be sufficiently subservient to descend to hell where she knows I belong.

    So labour, national, has anyone got a coin?

    Suicides an option and increasingly popular, but so selfish of men these days..selfish bastards.

  7. Man X Norton says:

    ACT is the only party likely to have any male-supportive direction. Their previous MP Muriel Newman is I think the only NZ politician ever to put forward a male-honouring bill, the Shared Parenting Bill calling for a presumption of equal shared care after separation. However, I don’t know about the current lot in ACT. Yes, ACT has other policies that many people might not agree with and that’s going to be the case with any party. If we are to support anyone politically we will always have to go along with some things we would rather not. Best thing then is to get involved with a party that has some important policies you like and work to influence the rest of its direction.

    Note that a number of MPs from various parties attended the Men’s Summit last year in Christchurch, and hopefully more will attend this year’s Men’s Summit at parliament buildings on 6th April. Some politicians are finally recognizing the public mood and that it will affect their election chances as shown in the US.

  8. brent says:

    Hi Guys I see a lot of Rhetoric but nothing else? I share the same feelings but I DO something about it! I am in the FC again next month after 12 twelve years, 4 failed Protection Orders including this one coming up whereby haven’t seen the mother for 3 years. Had Judges McHardy, Hindmarsh Druce and now the infamous David Burns. I have had shared care for 9 years gentlemen so she still alienates but that’s okay because she doesn’t realise she is prep-ping her own son to leave for good as he is 14, brilliant.

    NOW I NEED ONE THING, can somebody tell US where Burns Lives please.

    Do NOT GIVE UP ! Watch the followings

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdZIdg4dDLc

    https://rationshed.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/nz-open-letter-to-judge-mchardy/

    http://www.kiwisfirst.com/viewers-say/

    You must fight fire with fire and never be afraid to publish but only if you are RIGHT and not in retaliation. If you give up on your kids then you have “NO SPINE”

    I am reminded “IT IS BETTER TO DIE ON YOUR FEET THAN LIVE ON YOUR KNEES”

    Good luck and help with that request and I will show you what one man can do !

  9. brent says:

    View the links please like or don’t like and share as I am sure there are plenty of fathers who need our support and it gives confidence for them to continue okay

  10. brent says:

    By the way I have never been censored EVER as I sent all of these to the then PRIME MINISTER John Key , I got responses and the Family Court shat themselves otherwise I would be in jail.

    They cannot do a bloody thing as there is no threats or intimidation except the truth. They threaten you by taking away your kids! They failed and then you take them to the High Court were like DRUCE and BURNS their decisions get SQUASHED. Now let me tell you HIGH COURT Judges hate alot of Family Court judges ( Same cloth just different ethics).

  11. MurrayBacon says:

    The newspaper article didn’t mention that the judges were also retiring from any Government operated accountability (if there was any accountability when they were working anyway?). No other profession enjoys such protection against accountability. I guess it shows the extent to which the legal profession write legislation, despite the Rules of Parliament about conflict of interest.

    Also curious, that legal work is one of the few “professions” where workers are required to work outside of their training. Judges decisions have a large degree of impact onto people’s lives, yet they operate far outside the ethical and legal constraints that restrict medical treatment provision and use of force onto patients.

    An example, forcing male DV accused to attend DV courses of no proven value and some proven hazard, against the “patient’s” choice.
    I hope a day comes where judges are worthy of the respect that they demand in their caught$. Oh for evidence to be taken seriously. For all of their apparent intellectual power, they achieve so little. A massive economic achievement, that fortunately few others in our society match.

  12. MurrayBacon says:

    Same cloth just different ethics – maybe but I suggest not much different.
    In the end, it comes back to “For evil to flourish, all that is required is that good men do nothing”.
    This is as true for “judges”, as it is for anyone else. Actually more true. This is one of the justifications that english country judges use, in pressing their own pay demands. I would like that argument to succeed in protecting the public from the legal profession, as much as it succeeds behind closed doors in their pay claims.

  13. Man X Norton says:

    The Family Court and social work sisterhood in Britain seem just as bad as in NZ. Their Family Court removed two children both aged under four from their parents even though the judge acknowledged that the evidence showed they loved the boys and would never intentionally harm them. The problem was that the mother would not follow social workers’ advice about feeding (but there was no mention that they weren’t eating enough) and to stop having the children sleep in her bed. The children had shown a few bruises and one broken wrist all of which were apparently accidental. The judge felt concerned for the children’s safety so removed them. Concerned for their safety with loving parents so he treated those children to a huge abuse that was guaranteed to harm them. Yeah, great thinking.

    This decision appeared to be one mainly concerned with punishing parents for daring to stand up to social workers, most of whom probably had no children but rode in with a certainty that only comes from ideological indoctrination.

  14. DJ Ward says:

    #13
    My partner said that’s just crazy.
    The power of the state is insane.
    The number of times children fall over is amazing.
    A broken wrist is believable as an accident.
    It’s child abuse to sleep with little kids?
    My partner does it all the time.

    I think it was CYFs investigated them and the mother went piss off you know it all bitch.
    The rest is history.

  15. voices back from the bush says:

    15, Sleeping with children is not safe for them, especially if they’re infants.

  16. Man X Norton says:

    voices @15. Sleeping with children may not be safe for them but the huge majority of children who slept with their parents turned out just fine. More infants in the world sleep with parents than not and that has always been the case. The small risk involved in sleeping with parents is minuscule compared with the almost 100% risk of serious harm from ripping children from their parents and farming them out to foster care.

  17. voices back from the bush says:

    16, NZ has for many years had the highest rates if infant mortality during sleep.
    Usually these deaths are written off as SIDS.
    Many are manslaughter, some are intentional suffocation but they are blamed on an unknown god.(they were so precious, god needed them in heaven)

    The police turn up and do a death enquiry not a murder enquiry and many of the mothers get away with this and usually escape notice until they’ve killed three or more children.

    http://www.npr.org/2011/07/15/137859024/rethinking-sids-many-deaths-no-longer-a-mystery

  18. voices back from the bush says:

    16, This article claims that safe sleeping practices have saved 3000 NZ Babies lives.

    https://www.hqsc.govt.nz/assets/CYMRC/NEMR/SIDS-prevention-Mitchell-Blair-NZMJ-2012.pdf

  19. Man X Norton says:

    voices @17: It is unclear what proportion of SIDS are due to sleeping with parents. Many SIDS die in cots away from parents and I have known two such cases personally. Moreover, it’s unclear what the risk is to any one child who may sleep with parents. Given the huge rate of such sleeping arrangements around the world this risk cannot be high. The risk seems to be increased significantly by parental drunkenness or sedative use. Even so, the risk cannot come close to risks of harm in removing children from their parents and putting them into foster care.

  20. Man X Norton says:

    voices @18: Yes but that was from positioning babies differently not from having them sleep in separate beds. The researchers merely claimed that separate sleeping would save even more lives. They made no estimate of the costs of this to children’s emotional welfare or development in other ways.

  21. Voices back from the bush says:

    20, We differ on this one. I think the risks of suffocation are significant when falling asleep with an infant.

  22. Evan Myers says:

    #1 triassic

    These people are in the end human, and they all don’t easily escape from this.

    Some have break downs when maturity raises an awareness of the consequence of their action.

    Some disintegrate into a lonely, miserable retirement.

    Others realise that outside of a little mutual back slapping and self glorification they have amounted to little more than a failed career.

    I would in the end never trade my humanity and suffering for the few gold coins the rest so blithely cherish

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