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Sun 22nd November 2015

Challenge – Handling excessive and inappropriate stress

Filed under: Child Support,Domestic Violence,Law & Courts — MurrayBacon @ 10:22 pm

For a long time, I have been concerned that too often the familycaught$ uses trial by fire, for deciding cases.

As you read the examples that I have listed below, possibly other examples will come to your mind? If so, please add a comment, giving little more than the essential details to show the nature of the real issues and the way that the familycaught$/CYFs used inappropriate pressure or irrelevant issues, to decide the case. If you wish to supply more detailed information, please contact me personally and supply that privately.

Mon 14th September 2015

Canadian Identity Researcher Professor Robert A. Kenedy Will Visit NZ

He will arrive on Thursday 15th October and expects to be in NZ for about one week.

I am doing research on fathers, shared/continued parenting, as well as related areas. I have been working in this area for about 26 years, mainly in Canada, the UK, and US. I am now looking at the Global Shared Parenting movement and would like to do interviews with those in Australia and New Zealand. The interviews will be part of the book I am writing about the Family Law system, the Fathers’ Rights/Parenting Movement, and related issues. I would like to interview fathers, mothers, grandmothers, grandfathers, and others who have been impacted by the Family Law System. I would also like to interview mental health professionals, legal professionals, and others who have concerns about the Family Law System. All interviews will be confidential and those being interviewed will remain anonymous.

Overall, I am interviewing parents and others who are concerned with the state of the family law system, children, and parenting. I am particularly concerned about the stress experienced as a result of separation and divorce such as potential mental and physical health issues as well as possible suicide ideation and suicide. I have also interviewed many participants who have discussed domestic violence, false accusations, and related issues.

Sun 6th September 2015

Social Policies Seminar in Auckland

Filed under: Child Support,Domestic Violence,Gender Politics — MurrayBacon @ 1:30 pm

Welfare fit for families in a changing world

(Retirement Policy and Research Centre)

08 September 2015

9am – 5pm

Venue: The University of Auckland Business School, Lecture Theatre OGGB5, Level 0, Owen G Glenn Building, 12 Grafton Road, Auckland

The wellbeing of the poorest families appears to be at the heart of Government policy, yet the primary focus of this Government has been workfare, not welfare. Are there different policy directions that better meet the changed demographic and economic circumstances of families in the 21st Century?

Wed 24th June 2015

IRD Payments

Filed under: Child Support — midnighthauler @ 3:58 pm

I have just been notified by my sons school who I have had know contact with since Jan, that he has decided to leave and has a job. He is in process of completing sign out papers (not sure how long that takes, if anyone can enlighten me). He is taking on a full time job but I am not privy to that information. My battle will continue with IRD and payments I bet even if and when I inform them.

They rang the other day and I lost the plot and said to poor girl on ph its a wonder us dads want to commit suicide due to the constant harassment from you. Not long after hanging up the police arrived on my doorstep to assess my state of mind. If its not ph calls then its letters in the mail and it is wearing me down.

Tue 16th June 2015


Filed under: Child Support — midnighthauler @ 6:45 pm

Once again I have been bitten by the IRD, we had a review which was turned down. I do not have a problem paying IRD but I do when the amount is absolutely ridiculous. The ex wife who I have been divorced from for 12 yrs continues to plead poverty even though she has well paying job and owns 2 homes renting 1 and partner who owns his own business.

She has now alienated the kids from me and I am unable to contact them. I have to ring their school just to find out how they are doing. I had to ring IRD last night and was treated like a sub human. My son is 17yrs and is looking at leaving school and I only found out because I rang school to find out their progress.

This is my first time on site and new post so would be great to hear from other fathers suffering what I am going through.

Wed 3rd June 2015

It’s so easy to get political change? DV

Greg Andresen, of Men’s Health Australia, is a persistent and sharp political operator.

I have heard many men in NZ complain “Why doesn’t someone [else?] talk to the politicians and get everything sorted out?”.

If I have tried to explain what is required to communicate well to politicians, I have been attacked as defeatist and being too negative in seeing many challenges ahead. My critics mainly have been people who have never done more than make one telephone call, or Saturday visit to an MP. Then they complain that nothing positive happened!

I have suggested that men read How to Make Friends and Influence People, by Dale Carnegie and Dr. Brian Edwards and Judy Callingham’s book about How to Deal with Media. But these critics don’t have time to read it, they just want to jump straight in to making a submission or talking with a politician. Then they wonder why they don’t seem to have achieved anything? (Note: I am not saying they have achieved nothing, as such a judgement needs to be made over several years, not just a few days.)

Sun 17th May 2015

Administrative review

Filed under: Child Support — Time @ 4:54 pm

Originally when my ex wife and I split we had two houses. One was the family home and the other, a rental we co- owned with my ex brother in law.We also had additional debts that my ex had raked up. So when I decided to keep the family home and my ex, took the half share in the other home. I took on the extra burden of a much larger mortgage and took on much of the additional debt. Primarily so the children could come home to familiar surroundings. This was when we had a week about arrangement for child care. Unfortunately both children have since been brainwashed by their mother and mother in- law. And I no longer have custody and haven’t seen my children for over a year.

Ground 9
You are the paying parent and the assessment does not take into account that you have previously made payments, transfers or property settlements for the benefit of the child.

Does anyone know how I would approach this in a administrative review? Or if it is in fact even worth even attempting to challenge?

Mon 6th April 2015

Student Loan Debtors Choosing Bankruptcy

Filed under: Child Support,General — Downunder @ 9:59 am

The big question here; If a student loan debt (a debt to the State) is expunged by bankruptcy, why does a child support debt still exist after bankruptcy?

Thu 2nd April 2015

How to have a working Child Support system.

Filed under: Child Support — Vman @ 5:14 pm

I have been on both sides of the NZ child support system. It is a system that has completely failed by any useful measure. It is an income tax on some people based on their marital status which has nothing to do with supporting children.

Thu 26th March 2015

Please recommend a Child Psychologist experienced with writing reports for the Court

Filed under: Child Support,Domestic Violence,Law & Courts — sharingiscaring @ 11:57 am

Hi guys,

Could you please recommend a Child Psychologist experienced with writing reports for the Court?

Mon 9th March 2015

Hike in Child Support upsets a female

Filed under: Child Support,Gender Politics,General — ashish @ 8:33 pm


However hard I try not to appear sexist, the mainstream media gives me no options.

Thu 22nd January 2015

What do you call organizations you are terrified of?

Filed under: Child Support,General — ashish @ 10:57 pm

What is the difference between IRD and ISIS? Both terrorize non-custodial parents. One kills quickly, while the other kills you slowly over time.

Examples of Family Court rulings on Admin Reviews?

Filed under: Child Support,Law & Courts — richardmills @ 10:43 am

I’ve been assessed at a ‘potential’ income which is three times greater than my actual income as a result of a staggeringly unfair Admin Review. As a result I’m launching a counter review, as well as taking the existing review to the Family Court to challenge the review findings.

I’m needing to find examples of rulings that the Family Court have reached in previous cases where non-custodial parents have appealed under section 103b of the Act. Does anyone know where I can find these?

Thu 4th December 2014

‘Active dads’ could tackle child poverty

Filed under: Child Support,Gender Politics — JohnPotter @ 7:11 pm

Murray has already drawn attention to this article on Stuff yesterday in a comment, but I think it deserves a post of it’s own. It is written by Rene Smit, who I met many years ago at the Dunedin Father & Child group. ‘Active dads’ could tackle child poverty.

Sun 9th November 2014

IRD… Confuse Say…

Filed under: Child Support — BrokenHeartedDad @ 9:57 pm

So I’m just a little confused with the IRD and how they work out “nights per year” for child support.

Tue 21st October 2014

Who really murdered the “angel”?

Filed under: Child Support,Gender Politics,General — ashish @ 9:51 am

Cold case: Death of ‘angel’ devastates dad – National – NZ Herald News

The biggest crooks here are the IRD and everyone involved with the Child Support system.

The father in all faith would have complained to the Police, should he have had the slightest inkling of his daughter missing. But the Child Support system kept on claiming money. Coupled with the fact that the wife’s disappearance was nothing out of ordinary, there were no warning triggers that something was amiss. The father has to be applauded for taking the initiative to hire a private investigator despite being leeched by Child Support system.

The Police are quick to acknowledge the fact that a late complaint made the investigations late. They should be taking this time to review their policies of treating males as criminals, and making modifications to the system such that the Family Law is not looked upon as a threat and something to stay away from.

A woman separating from her husband and disappearing does NOT always mean that she has been abused or the man has been violent or abusive.

There are other factors that also happen, such as, the woman getting into extra-marital affairs, or the woman’s family inciting her to live less like a couple and treat the family unit more like a matriarchy. Yes, in-law influence is an unfortunate fact in many cases also.

And the biggest botch-up has been made by the previous leftist Government. Having made the solo-mum-by-choice lifestyle so lucrative through WINZ and other benefits, they have created heaps of solo mums by choice and investment children.

My thoughts are with the father. Poor guy, caught up in a culture clash from a conservative developing country and a “all rights and no responsibility” Western country. Having lost an “angel” through the crooked system at such a tender age.

There are a lot of male suicides that have happened by evil feminist-run Family Courts and Child Support system. This is not so much an issue as men usually have lived most of their lives, but the loss of a daughter at this tender age, having caught up in this mess, is too tragic.

This murder’s blood had not only tainted the hands of the two accused, but has also tainted EVERYONE that supports this messed up system setup by the feminist liberals to oppress ALL males regardless of whether they are guilty or not.

Thu 25th September 2014

Child Support and Salary Sacrifice. Are they F’n Serious!!!!!!

Filed under: Child Support,General,Law & Courts — Had_Enough @ 4:22 pm

Hi Folks,

Well there I was thinking I could salary package my car and try and save a bit on tax and running costs each year. But, stupid me hadn’t realised, until I read the following article http://www.salarypackagingcards.com.au/index.php/child-support-salary-packaging/ , that if I salary package my car I will have to pay even more in Child Tax. I confirmed this with the Novated Leasing agent and it is in fact true. I still can’t believe it and I hope it isn’t the same in NZ but it’s certainly the case over here in Oz. So, by some magic form of creative accounting the CSA people calculate that I am being given a car which I’m actually paying for and calculate the whole thing as a fringe benefit. It seems that I can’t even take a dump without incurring more child tax. I am utterly gob smacked. Have any of you guys come across a similar thing. It seems like discrimination is a bad thing unless the discrimination is against a liable parent. I feel like a social leper. All my colleagues are salary sacrificing their cars and are saving money but it will actually cost me money because I am a liable dad!!!

Tue 23rd September 2014

Non Resident for Tax Purposes. Does IRD still enforce Collection now that she’s abroad permanently?

Filed under: Child Support — Had_Enough @ 7:41 pm

Sorry about the boring title folks but I am a bit curious about how IRD can force me to pay Child Support after the mother has been out of the country for a year or more. The mother of my children has taken my 2 kids to Canada to live permanently. All 3 (her and the 2 kids) have both NZ and Canadian citizenship. They relocated about 3 months ago. So, they now live permanently in Canada and I live in Australia where I’ve been for the past 5 years. IRD seem to think that I will have to keep paying and paying and paying until my youngest is 19. It seems a bit odd to me that they can enforce this when she’s living in another country and they have no way of knowing if, for example, my daughter is working full time. Come to think of it IRD don’t really have any way of keeping tabs on her at all now that she’s under a foreign countries jurisdiction. Does anyone out there know anything about the IRD CS laws and how they apply to this situation? Can she initiate an Admin Review against me for example now that she’s permanently relocated overseas? Thanks in advance.

Wed 10th September 2014

The right of the child to know

Many men who have visited the MENZ site will be interested in this decision which relates to birth certificates.

STUFF NEWS artice: the truth will shock boy

The complete article is quoted below: (more…)

Mon 18th August 2014

Reproductive Rights For Men

Filed under: Child Support,Gender Politics — JohnPotter @ 7:05 pm

The September 2014 issue of M2 magazine features several articles about fathers, “just in time for father’s day”.

One that is likely to be of interest to MENZ readers is by family law researcher Zoë Lawton titled “The Rights Of The Father“.

Wed 13th August 2014

Robin Williams – A Great Men’s Advocate

Robin Williams

Yesterday the world reeled from the sudden death of Actor/Comedian Robin Williams.

Today tributes will flow, and rightfully so, from all corners of the earth, from those who knew him and worked with him, to those who respected and enjoyed his immense talent – he was a rare talent that could seize any moment, and turn it into theatre and laughter.

He will be remembered for his many roles, his ability to own the part, to make them unique likeable characters that only he could create.

But beyond this is another Robin Williams, a modern day Charlie Chaplin – both of whom are notable, not just because of their fame, but their political positions. (more…)

Tue 12th August 2014

Child Support amendments delayed a second time

Filed under: Child Support — richardmills @ 1:47 pm

Child support overhaul delayed

Mickey Mouse Outfit

Revenue Minister Todd McClay announced today the first of the reforms in the Child Support Scheme Amendment Act would be delayed a year because of the “complexity of the reforms”.

“Inland Revenue has informed me… it needs more time to implement the new scheme to the high standard that the Government expects.”

It is the second time the changes have been delayed – the Social Services Select committee held back the changes so IRD would have time to adjust its systems.

I wonder if IRD will be forced to pay the government substantial penalty payments for being overdue in their service delivery.

I may contact the IRD Child Support team and advise them that “My newly assessed Child Support payments would be delayed a year because of the “ridiculous over-assessment of my real income”, and that “I need more time to raise my salary to the high standard that the IRD expects.”

Honestly, what a complete sham.

Sun 8th June 2014

Australian Parliamentary Inquiry into Child Support

Filed under: Child Support,General — Downunder @ 9:55 am

The Minister for Social Services, the Hon Kevin Andrews MP, has asked the Social Policy and Legal Affairs Committee to inquire into the Australian Child Support Program.

Although it is not clear what the driving forces for the inquiry are this is certainly a far more substantial effort than we have seen in New Zealand.

Commenting on the inquiry, a spokesman from the Non-Custodial Parents Party, John Flanagan said “Our understanding is that this inquiry will be mainly about the following issues;” (more…)

Sun 1st June 2014

Evaluation of Child Support Act for Children and Parents

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,Child Support,Gender Politics,Law & Courts — MurrayBacon @ 12:37 am

4 Objects
See: www.legislation.co.nz

• The objects of this Act are—
o (a)to affirm the right of children to be maintained by their parents:
o (b)to affirm the obligation of parents to maintain their children:
o (c)to affirm the right of caregivers of children to receive financial support in respect of those children from non-custodial parents of the children:
o (d)to provide that the level of financial support to be provided by parents for their children is to be determined according to their capacity to provide financial support:

Sun 25th May 2014

Fighting Corruption overt and covert

Playlist: Depths of corruption

10 talks · 2h 22m · Curated by TED

Corruption manifests itself in many ways, some subtler than others. From anonymous companies to bribes to unjust electoral systems, these talks take you deep into ethically murky territory … and offer bold ideas on what we can do about it.

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