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A 14 year old Masterton Girl is in Custody today and will be appearing in the youth court after a vicious attack on a classmate with a scapple.
Police were called to the lunchtime incident at Chanel College in Masterton today when the girl slashed a classmates leg open after being accidentally hit on the head with a ball.
Her victim a 14 year old boy was rushed to Hospital and is recovering after having his wound treated.
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I long have dreamed a dream to develop a data base (Leading to statistics) of all cases of FEMALE violence that we hear of. I’ll try to keep the data entry up to date if someone else can develop the data base. I have Access 97 in this but a stroke a few years ago has left me somewhat mentally deficient
Comment by ALASTAIR — Thu 10th November 2005 @ 3:53 pm
Why oh why do you males make a habit of pointing out rare cases of females being violent? In this case I have no doubt that she was defending herself from a bunch of male yobos. You should all be forced to live in a womans refuge center for a week and observe where the majority of real violence occurs and who the perpetrators are. It would probably cure your self pity as well.
Comment by Marylyn — Fri 11th November 2005 @ 8:11 pm
Marilyn,
I reccomend that you read the longditudinal study from Otago University. It showed that initiators of violence are around 50/50.
Isn’t it correct also that most refuges act as defacto boarding houses manufacturing the same half truths that you present as fact.
I saw a local court report trcently that showed that Confirmed the dunedin study, of 7 persons conviced for violence offence 4 were female.
The fact is Males do not need to manufacture statistics to justify the fefuge industry.
How do you react to a brother & sister convicted recently. The Brother was convicted of murder yet on a different victim the female was permitted to plea bargain to Manslaughter (She stabbed the male victim)
Comment by Alastair — Fri 11th November 2005 @ 9:27 pm
Marilyn,
Rare cases ? The cases are just the ones you hear of. There are many, many more cases which occur which just aren’t promulgated by the media, such as this case ( I didn’t know of it until reading this article) and therefore society doesn’t know about.
If it so happened that a school boy attacked a school girl with a scalpel, there would be newsflashes all over the media, and everybody in NZ would know about it.
I know a woman who worked in a womens refuge ( she was an accountant performing and audit ) and she was disgusted at how corrupt they were – especially with money being defrauded and used for personal things, and also that there were hardly ever any ‘victims’ there. Of the ‘victims’ that went there, they were coerced into fabricating all sorts of rubbish, mainly to perpetuate the misandric, feminist and social hatred towards Men. So no, I will not visit a wimmins refuge centre.
‘Bunch of male yobos’ ? – No, just one guy – trying to defend himself.
‘Self Pity’ Ugh. Self pity of females is what has made this country an Anti Male state, where any venegeful female can toddle on down to the local Police station and have any Man she wants put behind bars, without (quote) ANY CORROBORATING EVEIDENCE whatsoever.
You think you’re at a disadvantage in this society ? – Read some more articles on this website.
Comment by Moose — Sat 12th November 2005 @ 12:23 am
Alastair – I would be glad to help you take on this task. I am a software developer, MCAD including MCP qualifications in SQL Server 2000 – Programming an administration. It would be a pleasure to develop a database ( and any other software ) for your idea.
Comment by Moose — Sat 12th November 2005 @ 12:27 am
Thanks Moose. I note our little Marilyn is Quiet.
I’m happy to do Data entry, Maybe it could be publicly available on the masculinist web sites.
The case I mentioned will be on Sunday this week. Very high profile
Comment by Alastair — Sat 12th November 2005 @ 4:09 am
Sorry guys your arguments are not convincing me or anyone else. You instinctively are bullies and I’ve yet to meet a man who doesn’t act on his instincts. A woman instincts are to nurture and she does that well. However she will if needed protect her offspring at any cost and that’s where your statistics come into play. Fathers only concern for their children comes from their desire to control their offspring and indeed every thing around them. Males are the biggest destructive force in this universe and the sooner you are eradicated the better off this planet will be.
Comment by maryilyn — Sat 12th November 2005 @ 1:52 pm
JP.
Marylyn’s uncivilized hatemail (or perhaps I should say hatemale) is thoroughly innapropriate for this site. Please take her to task for this.
Marilyn – Please consider therapy. It may be emotionally painful, but a lot less painful than waging war against half the human race (males) plus thier myriad female supporters.
Comment by Stephen — Sat 12th November 2005 @ 4:14 pm
Marylyn? How do you actually spell your name it seems to change like the wind.
As a female I am disgusted by your comments.
Ask children if they want to be without their Dads, and the majority will say no.
Noone needs the feminist rubbish that constitutes our justice system.
The downfall in our society has been the increase
in lesbian, feminist, counsellors telling women they are victims of rape, violence and other crimes. Now we have an adversarial society where vengeful women such as yourself can carry out hate crimes minus any corroborating evidence.
The majority of bullying crimes in the South Island lately have been female teens beating up on each other.
Wake up! females are just as bad as males.
Have you not heard of PMT? ( Pummel Males Thoroughly).
Comment by rejected — Sat 12th November 2005 @ 4:50 pm
Marilyn – I agree, a mother will go to any lengths to support her young. Thanks for supporting the mother on this site – She needs it! http://whereareyouesther.blogspot.com/
Comment by Alastair — Sat 12th November 2005 @ 5:05 pm
Marilyn – I am looking for factual evidence to support your claims. You have been presented with facts yet respond only with another diatribe. Watch Sunday tomorrow night to learn of another female murderer
Comment by Alastair — Sat 12th November 2005 @ 5:15 pm
BTW Marilyn, I raised my son on my own, with his mothers agreement. Worked out well – but then she was a learned woman
Comment by Alastair — Sat 12th November 2005 @ 5:18 pm
How does this sound Marylyn?
“Sorry Mrylyn your arguments are not convincing me or anyone else. You women instinctively are bullies and I’ve yet to meet a woman who doesn’t act on her instincts. A man’s instincts are to nurture and he does that well. However he will if needed protect his offspring at any cost and that’s where your statistics come into play. Mother’s only concern for their children comes from their desire to control their offspring and indeed every thing around them. Females are the biggest destructive force in this universe BLA BLA BLA”
Marylyn, we (normal men and women) are both equal and complimentary halves of the human race-
I think you qualify for the Darwin award, which is to leave the planet, taking your unco-operative genes with you.
Comment by John Brett — Mon 14th November 2005 @ 5:55 pm
Your arguments, intersperced occasionally with good data seem petty and full of childish one up-manship. I have been in a relationship with a partner I loved, which I had to end because of his (occasional) violence which he used to maintain the status quo – over money, teenage boundries and eventually over nothing at all. His refusal to to acknowledge the problem broke my heart. I tried counselling, the police were involved in several occasions, unfortunately I wish I had been advised to charge him with assault as I effectively protected him from facing the consequences of his actions. Yes violence from girls is on the increase and I have read about the gender study on the initiation of violence in relationships but in reality male violence is far more likely to cause serious assaults on females, far more likely to induce compliance in relationships and far more woman are killed by male partners than vice versa
We do have problem and blaming each other is not helping.
Comment by Zesty — Tue 10th January 2006 @ 9:57 am
The Violent Females Data Base is growing well. Includes Lesbian Rape, Murder (Western Bay of Plenty this week) illegal sexual connection with children. Its growing on average between 2 & 3 cases per week.
Marilyn may also like to comment on the case in the Tauranga refuge where the assistant manager attempted to bully a child’s father into agreeing to hand over guardianship to her, presumably to be part of a lesbian relationship.
Comment by Alastair — Tue 10th January 2006 @ 10:44 am
How can Marylyn comment if you don’t give a reference to where others can read the details of the case? Is the comment “presumably to be part of a lesbian relationship” your presumption or inferred by details supplied as a part of a grievance complaint? Has the complaint been investigated? What was the outcome of the investgation?? hmmm
Comment by Zesty — Tue 10th January 2006 @ 12:03 pm
Two the Three cases of what? Serious assualt? Murder? Rape? Incidents of violence? Tell us more …
Comment by Zesty — Tue 10th January 2006 @ 12:06 pm
Zesty,
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
You’re making provocative and unreferenced claims yourself (that male violence outstrips female violence and has more serious outcomes).
Of course you could always try to legitimise such claims with voodoo stats from the wimmyn’s refuge movement. As part of my Social Sciences degree I’ve seen plenty of them and refute them as utterly unscientific (Self selection, miniscule cohorts, loaded questionaires etc) and symptomatic of thier anti-male vitriol. You may have done yourself a huge favour not going to thier victim cult.
(Readers please note as an aside, Refuge’s latest spin-move is to commission ‘research’ into barriers which exist to women using thier service.
Not IF BARRIERS EXIST mind you. Oh no, no, no. That gross assumption has already been made. How’s that for cooking up ‘research’.
IMO It’s sad to see such an organisation’s warped which could put off women with real need for refuge going to them. But I suppose that’s what they get when they don’t play straight.
Also one – upmanship is no sin when played wisely with facts rather than mere rhetoric laced with vapid condescension.
I look forward to Alistair publishing his research showing incidents of famale violence.
However I fear that this whole issue will probably get bogged down in accusations of the ‘my stats are better than yours’ type.
As for me, like other good Kiwi men I know I’ve voted with my feet, and moved abroad taking my skills to someplace else. A place where I can sit next to a child on an aircraft, and also be free of the constant mysandric demonising from NZ fems.
Ah, the wonderful feeling of due respect!
Comment by Stephen — Tue 10th January 2006 @ 1:19 pm
Unfortunatly the letters on this site from men only go towards the womens arguement. Men need to take responsibility for mens violence instead of trying to justify it by saying women are just as violent. Men use all the excusses in the book to avoid having to face the fact that some mena are violent in no matter what form that might take. I have never heard a woman say ALL men are violent. I know a lot of men and I know a lot of women and in my experience that of those people the MEN are more violent than the WOMEN.
Comment by Ken — Wed 19th April 2006 @ 2:42 pm