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Fri 26th February 2021

Commercialized Rape

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:14 am

This political position may have emerged somewhere in the past prior to NZ Opposition Leader Judith Collins’ announcement that this was her personal view, back somewhere around our recent 2020 election.

It’s gained some traction amongst right wing supporters although I wouldn’t say Conservative supporters.

It’s another of those (more…)

Sun 21st February 2021

Men’s group in Wellington

Filed under: General — Sam Butler @ 11:18 pm

Men here might be interested in this men’s group in Wellington. It’s limited to 9 members but has a few vacancies right at the moment:

Oz Politician highlights the Family Court causes suicides and murders. We have the same problem in NZ. I now call out the Minister of Justice Andrew Little as the man responsible for inaction. Andrew Little has turned a blind eye to these dads and their children.

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 11:15 pm

The attached video – Pauline Hanson reports the Family Court in Australia has caused male suicides and female murders. It includes the murders of children by both male and females and other family members. Hanson had identified filicide. That is the killing of one’s son or daughter. A repugnant crime that Hanson says the stats show filicide is committed by more mothers than fathers!

The Australian Government has closed the Family Court. They could not repair or change the set ideology, they could not get rid of the hidden agenders. In one king hit, the Australian Government closed this industry down. The Federal Closed Circuit Court will now take over. 155 Stakeholders i.e. the people who choose to “keep the ball in play” to maximize the hurt and cost to all are now fired. Dismissed for the mental health and deaths they have caused in families. See them scream in the following link.

155 Stakeholders

This is I think the very first major pushback of the feminist ideology worldwide. The beginning of the end of hatred towards men.

On to New Zealand. Minister of Justice Andrew Little has his limited response to the same issues we have.

In 2009 Principal Family Court Judge Peter Boshier identified 22 people involved in Family Court cases who died as a result of either suicide or homicide. Of these 18 (82 per cent) were suspected suicides, and 41 per cent of the deceased had been, either directly or indirectly, involved in domestic violence proceedings,” he said.

Andrew Little has been the minister of justice for 4 years now. I can only conclude Andrew Little must be overwhelmingly pleased with the suicides otherwise he would have done something over the past 4 years.

If Andrew Little decides to ask for a review or royal commission of enquiry, I and I suspect the voting public will take this as its OK to carry on and cause more mental health, more suicides while he puts it to the bottom of his list of things to do and gleefully claims “I’m waiting on the report”.

Employing more judges will only slightly shorten wait times. The backlog is huge. It will not address the suicides. The core of the matter is the law does not address fairness towards men. The only way forward to reduce mental health and suicide is to;

1. Automatically give dads the same equal share of children as mothers have. If he does not have a home, then it should be parent week about hot swap.
2. Force FCJ to either jail or fine those who commit perjury.
3. Dump the outdated and failed Duluth model. Ordering men to agree to such nonsense before he can be with his children is harmful and causes suicides.
4. Openly acknowledge women can be violent and nasty. They do it by manipulation, perjury, gaslighting and parental alienation. Make such behaviour a serious crime.
5. Make the penalty for parental alienation punishable by returning children to victims.
6. Fund all family court lawyers. This will take away the pressure of limited finance at a time when families are under duress, doubling their accommodation and other costs.

Another way is to force mediation first.

The Australians are reforming their Family Courts to prevent or reduce suicides and murders from happening. Minister of Justice Andrew Little is not.

The Children will ask you one simple question. Are you going to compensate me for my fathers suicide? Children will say “I didn’t get a good start in life because the Family Court did everything they could to stop my loving dad from seeing me”. If you reply ACC, it will be pointed out it was not an accident. The Family Court is designed to cause mental health and suicide.

It also puts the child at risk of suicide too. Maybe not straight away, but certainly further down the track when that kid is old enough to see why he or she has ended up with their lot in life.

I am reminded it only took a child to point out the Emperor didn’t have any clothes on at all.

Two swindlers arrive at the capital city of an emperor who spends lavishly on clothing at the expense of state matters. Posing as weavers, they offer to supply him with magnificent clothes that are invisible to those who are stupid or incompetent. The emperor hires them, and they set up looms and go to work. A succession of officials, and then the emperor himself, visit them to check their progress. Each sees that the looms are empty but pretends otherwise to avoid being thought a fool. Finally, the weavers report that the emperor’s suit is finished. They mime dressing him and he sets off in a procession before the whole city. The townsfolk uncomfortably go along with the pretence, not wanting to appear inept or stupid, until a child blurts out that the emperor is wearing nothing at all. The people then realize that everyone has been fooled. Although startled, the emperor continues the procession, walking more proudly than ever.

So you can see it from a child’s prospective. Let’s change some names in that 1837 classic.

The swindlers are the lawyers and mothers.
The weavers are feminist Ellen Pence and mothers.
The public officials are the Judges.
The townsfolk are the voters.
The child is the child.
The Emperor is Andrew Little.

Although startled, Andrew Little continues the procession, walking more proudly than ever past the children sitting beside graves of their once loving fathers.

I’ll leave it to the Minister of Justice to choose to be remembered as a Minister of effective action and resolve or a Minister of a department that causes unnecessary mental health, suicides and lifelong crushing debt.

Sat 20th February 2021

May 2022

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 5:59 pm

The MENZ site burst into life in May 1997.

Is that cause for celebration – 25 years?

Sun 14th February 2021

The Hobosexual

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 8:31 am

This is a new one for me.

Interested to hear from any Hobosexuals about the lifestyle.

One might suspect it’s a natural consequence of the changing status of men in society and perhaps the declining opportunities in home ownership.

Thu 11th February 2021

To Call A Man A Rapist

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 7:48 pm

Tue 9th February 2021

Full Custody for Dad

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:20 am

I found this proudly displayed in the public domain so I can’t see a issue with sharing this here.

How many fathers do get full custody now days?

Is shared parenting still a thing in the family court?

Thu 28th January 2021

This is the place where a man who experienced the family court burned himself to death in front of Jacinta Adern. So far nothing has improved. How many more deaths are required before Jacinta takes a different approach?

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 10:56 pm

Male suicide is a national crisis that kills more men that the road toll.

Wed 27th January 2021

The Education Delusion

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:33 am

A Book Review

About The Author:

Briar Lipson is a Research Fellow specialising in education.
Before joining, The Initiative (A NZ Project) she was a maths teacher and assistant principal in London. Briar co-founded the Floreat family of primary schools and has worked for International Education consultancy CfBT, and the Westminster think tank Policy Exchange.
Briar arrived in NZ in 2017 and her book is the product of research into the NZ education system.

At face value that may not interest you but before you dismiss this, let me add …

The text evolves from (more…)

Tue 19th January 2021

Kidz Need Dadz growing

Filed under: General — Brendon Smith @ 10:46 pm

Lots of positive, active dad support still happens here? Great! 🙂
Long live the inter – web? Imagine a DadzKare office, a Group?

In Onehunga every Wednesday, a bunch of actual Dads gather, in Tauranga and Raumati, Wellington on Tuesdays
7-9pm, any Dad issues, all welcome, bringers of cookies – double welcome!

Kidz Need Dadz are also looking for DadzKare Support Workers, part time in Auckland and Christchurch, possibly Whangarei, Hamilton and Dunedin.

The pay is poor, but the team is great, the resources developing, our website relies on our predecessor as we share our support for Dads at all stages and know,  half the dads who find us say, ” if only I had known! “

Part time, paid DadzKare Support Workers or Navigators, coordinators, lots of volunteers,
together, share, learn, prevent, survive, peer support and DadzKare groups, all over NZ.

Try 0800563123 almost anytime or email [email protected]

Thu 14th January 2021

He wrote: ‘Parental Alienation is devastating. I loved my children as much as a husband and father could. I see no light’

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 2:34 am

This is what a real bloodstained suicide note from a man who experienced the Family Court looks like.

Before he killed himself he wrote: “FAMILY LAW NEEDS REFORM”. I recommend mandated lower costs and less reward for false claims of abuse. Parental Alienation is devastating. I loved my children as much as a husband and father could. I see no light. Recommend; an authority consistent during high conflict separations: It is exploited in family law.

“Sorry Dad and Angie. I’m very sorry.”

He was 45 years old when he died. He had 2 children.

His bank accounts were locked, he lost his home, his vehicle, his business.

You emasculate a man and take away his ability to provide … he’s a human being. He has limits and the Judge crossed them.

The children want their dad back. The public opinion and liability for male suicide is growing.

Thu 17th December 2020

Why has the NZ government given the power to family court judges to cause mental health and the suicide of hundreds of kiwi dads?

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 11:57 pm

Why has the New Zealand government given the power to family court judges to cause mental health and the suicide of hundreds of dads in New Zealand? And why is it that no one in the New Zealand government wants to pick up the mantle for male problems like this one? Are they fearful of the backlash and political future? I look up to people like Pauline Hanson who has put herself on the line for all the male suicides in their country. Pauline’s future is strengthened by her stance as I’m sure our own ministers would be if they open up the shame of our own appalling male suicide figures.

The children of these dead fathers want answers. The liability for male suicide is growing.

Jacinda Ardern – All I ask is to break the cycle of male suicide in New Zealand. Be the world leader of reform and stop the shameful bureaucratic nonsense and end the slaughter.

The next clip can only be viewed on youtube and not in a window here. It lays blame 270 men a year commit suicide at the hands of the Family court and the collection agencies.


And for all those twits who would gleefully point out the clips were of our Australian cousins….. the New Zealand system practically mirrors just that. The only difference is we do not have collection agencies taking a commission (reward money) and the Australians Parliamentarians are on to it.

Wed 9th December 2020

Parental alienation examples required.

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 12:08 am
I urgently need examples of parental alienation. Higher court examples if that is possible. Something a Family court would have to compare and follow.

Experiences with this could be helpful too.
Thu 19th November 2020

Allegations of Corrupt Family Court Judges

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 12:51 pm

Building further on my past 2 posts.

One mans fight to see his son. It has taken 14 years so far and counting.

He claims the mother lied.

He calls out Judge Timothy Hindmarsh Druce for perjury and acting legally. He further calls out Judge David Burns and how has his verdicts have been overturned six times by a high court Judge.

The Judges did all they could to ruin a good hard-working mans right to see his son.

His son was desperate to see his dad. His son recorded his mothers partners Mr Brian Raymond Wood violence and abuse towards him. (see it in the video).

When will mainline media pick up on this crap? 60 Minutes, please help these children.

There will be a time when history will reveal just what the New Zealand family court Judges are doing and it will be there for all to read.

There will be a time when the Government will have to compensate the real victims. And what is a going rate for a dad who committed suicide at the hand a corrupt family court judge?

Sun 20th September 2020

Request 4 your ‘time’, ‘support’ & ‘wisdom’

Filed under: General — Julie @ 2:11 pm

It’s been a while since I posted here …. or anywhere, for that matter. And I need to overcome this hurdle quickly, because I’m venturing into an online magazine dedicated to ‘Empowering Single Parents & their Families’, both dads and mums. (btw, your input is valued and desired)

Something is blocking my willingness to expose corruption and abuse of power while I’m highly motivated using anger and rage (considered dark energy by Jim Bagnall that’s formed during interventions (I.e:, CYFS, Family Court)) heightened when dealing with corrupt interventionists who abuse their power.

(Btw,I have wondered if you saw my dealings with Police 10/7). That was before I learned to manage the ‘dark energy’ that simply appears when dealing with new interventions similar to CYFS and their corrupt,power abusing, destructive, interventionists.

I do visit and write posts while preferring to use office word, 🙂 so you can’t read the embarrassing drafts.

But THEN…. grrr, shoot, bummer….
I’m stuck….
I can’t post…

Instead I save the post, hide it away, and leave.. only to return when once again, angered or enraged.

I think perhaps, I am affected by expected consequences and empathy whilst I’m in a ‘priviledged’ position having the best of information and knowledge.

I am also sad and sorry for attacking Sue Bradford which may be the last post I wrote. As I become wiser, I understand things much clearer. Was she placed in a bad position as was Peter Dunne from United Future (given the CS portfolio when wanting to empower families, especially nuclear families)?

Have you ever experienced what I am dealing with? Do have some advice to share?

Sat 12th September 2020

Family lawyer exposes the domestic violence racket corrupting our courts

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 10:34 pm

Building on my last post a family court lawyer exposes the domestic violence racket corrupting courts.

Tue 8th September 2020

Ex Senior Police Officer Exposes Domestic Violence Order Racket

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 11:03 am

A system which gives women the right to make allegations of violence with absolutely no evidence which is then used to destroy men’s lives.
I agree with the importance of protecting women from violent men. However without notice orders has become is now corrupting our judicial system every week.

Bettina Arndt hears from people who are outraged what’s happening here. It includes from the police force who are required to enforce laws they know are grossly unfair by fabricated stories which place offices who are then required to take as factual evidenced to remove men from their homes and denied in contact with their children.

Your stories please.

Thu 27th August 2020

Did you experience no access to your children during Covid 19 even though you should have?

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 7:23 am
We are all used to rules. They are important to safeguard everyone. No one wants to spread the virus. And I am convinced lockdown saved lives and we are all better for it.

That being said there were provisions made for shared bubbles. You had to be family and you had to live in the same health zone.

But what do you do when your recent ex flatly refused to acknowledge the provisions and deny access to you kid under the caveat of lockdown. Is it just another lawyers fee? Say $300 for a letter. A few thousand to appear in court if the letter isn’t responded to. And is there a way in which costs can be claimed? And lets just say you do not have the extra money because you are paying for your ex and her lifestyle and trying to keep a roof over your head with the odd meal of noodles. What then?

And whats the point anyway? The courts were closed and only listened to urgent hearings. And is the abuse of a man and his childrens rights important enough to claim urgent?

I hear a lot about violence. Emotional abuse. It seems to not apply when a mans access and his children are abused.

What happened to you?

Was it to expensive?

Or did you give up? Burnt off from fees?

Your opinions and stories please.
Sat 22nd August 2020

Courts right to decide paternity

Filed under: General — Rapopi @ 12:01 pm
As per the current family court policies it can be decided by the court to place paternal responsibilities on a father without proving paternity in many situations.

Studies also show that as many as 1 in 10 fathers are not biologically the fathers of their children and can end up raising and paying child support for a child that is not theirs.
It is suggested that if there is a chance of children being someone else’s in cases where cheating is suspected being as high as 30%.

It’s suggested that all fathers get a paternity test done in order to insure your position and legal responsibilities before you could possibly end up with a lifetime of responsibility to children who might not be yours.

Courts right to choose paternity

Better Bachelor discussing fake paternities and false paternities
Thu 2nd July 2020

Mans Lawyer Ordered To Pay Ex Wife Half A Million + Costs When Trust Failed To Protect His Assets

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 11:28 am

Firstly I am not a lawyer. If you need advice on trusts go to a lawyer who specialises in trusts. Large legal firms have specialists in each field.

From what I understand.

1. Man goes to legal firm to get advice on how to protect his assets. i.e. his home.

2. Legal firm draws up trust. Put home in trust.

3. Ex wife takes him to court for half his trusts house.

4. Man adds his legal firm as a third party at the hearing.

5. Ex Wife wins however legal firm has to pay directly ex wifes what the man loss. i,e, half a million. Plus legal costs.

News Story here

Law fuel review here

Ruling PDF Here

Tue 26th May 2020

The new ‘F’ word in Town…

Filed under: General — mama @ 1:08 pm

I have already heard it said by the new National Party Leader Todd Muller,,, it is the word FAMILY.

There is a strength in that word alone.

I was just watching old footage of the 1978 Election campaign, it was kinda pleasing seeing the senses of humour and the banter between the leaders of parties and their comfortable connection with the public and a seemingly respectful relationship with journalist and the media, .. but it struck me how enjoyably engaged the public seemed,, a whole bunch of NZers’, from old to young, being just as individual as they like , comfortable together, enjoying the politics and very much feeling a part of it, a big part of it.
I know these were a bunch of NZers’ who were as we were back then, a people who have come from good values, albeit they considered conservative, but these times allowed for the individual just fine, underlying this feel good time was the very thing that we all not only had in common but what was a large driving force of New Zealand, it was the FAMILY…the family extended to the community for many of us as we grew in small towns all over lil’ Ol’ NZ. That is when it struck me, like..I had never considered it before, the fact that what was missing in the very people growing up here for the last almost two generations, the lack of strength, commitment and values of old was the lack of FAMILY.

Excuse me though, I don’t want to generalise about the young kids, they have had many burdens, technology being a biggie, I do know many that do not have what I had, a normal Family, you know the kind that has a Father in it,, It would be great to think that one day that ‘F’ word could be in vogue…FATHER the new ‘F’ word.

Thu 21st May 2020

Sexual assault at NZ universities

Filed under: Gender Politics,General,Sex Abuse / CYF — Sam Butler @ 12:51 pm
I’ve recently come across this Australian study of sexual harassment and assault on Aussie campuses:

Though it’s been reported under headlines claiming it shows ‘widespread’ harassment and assault, it’s worth noting two things.

One is that the definition of harassment is very broad, including ‘inappropriate leering or staring, sexually suggestive comments or jokes, and intrusive questions about someone’s private life or physical appearance.’ And in fact, these were the most common forms of ‘harassment’ that were reported.

The second point is that only 1.6% of respondents reported sexual assault in a university environment. Obviously that’s just allegations that haven’t been proven, but even so it contradicts the official narrative that universities are more dangerous in terms of sexual assault than other contexts.

At Vic uni there’s long been a campaign called ‘Thursdays in Black’ to get students and staff to wear dark clothing in mourning for the supposedly high rates of assault. I haven’t seen a NZ study similar to the Aussie one yet (and would like to), but it looks likely the idea that NZ unis have an epidemic of sexual assault is as false as it is in Australia.

Sat 14th March 2020

NZ Menz Summit 2020

Filed under: Events,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:21 am

The 2020 Men’s Summit is planned to be held on Friday 3rd July in Hamilton at the Glenview Club, 211 Peacocks Road, Hamilton, NZ. It had been planned for April but organizers don’t want to contribute to any possible spreading of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID 19 disease. Also, international speakers would be unable to come given the quarantine restrictions now in place. Hopefully, by July matters will have progressed to allow Summit 2020 to go ahead. For more information see

Wed 26th February 2020

Imperative reading if you intend to live with a partner for 3 yrs +

Filed under: General — triassic @ 2:38 pm

Property Relationship Act
(How to make theft legal)

You won’t get this from a lawyer


how to proceed with my case ?

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — kidless dad @ 2:17 pm

this started off with a without notice application based on violence and drug use also citing child neglect and untidy living conditions (majorly played up for maximum effect) i held onto my daughter for a week over our informal arrangements due to being threatened to never see her again, police did an uplift after an incident where the mother tried to take my daughter by force, i am currently on supervised visits with my daughter 2 hours weekly (other excluded because not biological for added psychological abuse). i have proof of all lies told on initial affidavit including the said violence and drug use also child neglect wasn’t even worth mentioning because its total bs . The mother has failed her drug test and returned a massive reading for marijuana, OT have made a report and say they have no concerns about having my daughters in my care. i passed mine with no drugs, i have started a parenting program and completed pts course . We have a directions hearing in a week or 2 the mother hasnt complied with any conditions on the parenting order and i have done everything but i am not sure my lawyer is acting in my interests as she seems rather lack luster about the outcomes ahead . Can anyone shine a light on this dark situation. Please and Thank you

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