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1. 

   The name in itself, has to go!!!!!

   The name “child support” is a government order; as if it is implying that you do not care about your child and the government has measures to “make you care or be responsible”

   DID YOU KNOW ???

   A. Why do g.s.t returns and other tax returns not require a 45 cent stamp on the outside envelope?

   B. Why do child support payments do require a 45 cent stamp on the outside envelope ?

   C. answer: Jenny Shipley (National) amended the law to make B. applicable back in mid 90’s..

   Child Support imply’s that you are removed from the family environment altogether, in a somewhat clinical nature.

   HOWABOUT A FEW IDEAS TO HUMANISE THIS VICIOUS 2ND CLASS CITIZEN DEPARTMENT KNOWN AS “CHILD SUPPORT” (tentacle of IRD)
   THAT MANY FATHERS HAVE TO BE STIGMATISED TO; GIVE US BACK OUR DIGNITY, THE TERM CHILD SUPPORT IS DISGRACEFUL AND HAS TO GO.

   (remember, WINZ formerly had a makeover from the name “Social welfare dept.”)

   WHAT COULD THE CHOICES BE FOR AN ALTERNATIVE NAME TO CHILD SUPPORT, THAT BRINGS WITH IT, JUST A LITTLE DIGNITY THAT IS SEVERELY LACKING.

   My choice:
   The I.R.D. Letter head should read:
   “non-custodial parent payments” (OR THE LIKE)

   (it let’s the government and my child know the connection, i have to him, i.e. i am one of his parents, not just someone of no concern giving a donation)
   people who pay child support are social lepers, we need to be recognised as parents on an equal footing to the other parent, whereby the family court
   are also bound by the IRD to protect the rights of both parents)

   CHANGE THE NAME BEFORE YOU CHANGE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE THE NAME CAN REFLECT THE GOOD INTENDED.
   IT WILL NOT DO THIS WHILE DUNNE CAN MAKE A MOCKERY OF FATHERS BY CHASING THEM FOR CHILD SUPPORT,
   CHILD SUPPORT IS DEROGATORY , JUST AS THE WORD NIGGER OR COON IS TO A COLOURED PERSON.

   RESTORE THE RIGHTS OF THE FATHER NOW.

   The I.R.D. Letter head should read:
   “non-custodial parent payments” (OR THE LIKE)

   (respect is long over-due) OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE NEXT DUNNE, YOU LEECH.

   Comment by civil dissident – Mon 18th September 2006 @ 9:47 am

   Comment by civil dissident — Mon 18th September 2006 @ 9:54 am

2. 

   Check and correct the date you have posted Bevan????

   Comment by bryan — Mon 18th September 2006 @ 10:05 am

3. 

   an annual mistake – Thanks.

   Comment by Bevan Berg — Mon 18th September 2006 @ 10:46 am

4. 

   The only way to address the problem of ‘Child Support’is as a group,this is the only way we will have our concerns delt with.This is proven time and again worldwide,it is large groups of people with financial backing that get results.Hows this for an idea,the Coalition of Fathers sets up a Trust Fund.There are currently 200 members,if we each contributed $15 (or there abouts)each week that would be $12000 each Month.Let it accumulate for 2 Months,hire a good Lawyer and take the Government to task on the grounds of Human rights abuse.We could notify IRD that we will be suspending Child Support payments until the matter has been resolved,or reducing payments to what we consider a reasonable amount.I am sure a good Lawyer such as Rod Hooker would be able to find several sections of the Human Rights act & Bill of Rights.We could also invite other Parents paying Child Support to join us which would help with the Financing,I am sure they would be keen if they could drop their Child Support payments.This sort of action is the only way I can see progress being made.

   Comment by Brett — Mon 18th September 2006 @ 5:50 pm

5. 

   Brett,

   Come to Wellington and put your ideas forward at the plenary sessions.

   Regards

   Scrap

   Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Mon 18th September 2006 @ 8:09 pm

6. 

   The Political Busker will support and promote attention of this event to the streets of Wellington.

   If you want material handed out to the public, design them, print them, post them to Craig Jackson and I at least will distribute them.

   Cheers,
   The Political Busker

   Comment by Benjamin Easton — Mon 18th September 2006 @ 8:56 pm

7. 

   I haven`t paid child tax for over 5 years now. I contribute directly towards my children.

   I have had IRD officials (interestingly enough all women) visiting me at home. Letters to my workplace warning them not to employ me and frequent phone calls. The latest letter is a threat of legal action. The outstanding child tax was $27 000 from their calculations. It is now $90,000.00. As you can see it is made up mostly of penalties.

   I agree that if you pay the child tax that you are actually agreeing with the system by cooperating with it.

   Comment by Kobus Abrie — Mon 18th September 2006 @ 10:15 pm

8. 

   Just had a review done.
   My ground for a review was travel costs associated with access from OZ (ground 5) and supporting a dependent morally —my mother( ground 1).
   The review was declined for the reasons: 1. travel costs ( $1200/trip- which includedair fares accommodation, and departurer taxes) were not realistic. I provided all the documents relating to the cost of travel from internet, and travel agents but these were not considered or ignored. Even with these provided, the review officer claimed she did not have enough evidence to allow the reduction in child tax. CS for the year amounted to 8000. travel including phone contacts etc amounts to 7000 which is more than the 5% threshold.

   My claims were for a travel frequency of 4/ year staying at hotels for accommodation spending 5 days in NZ..

   In fact during the hearing the review officer was supposed to call me for a telephone hearing which she never did and claimed in her report that I did not attend. Not only that but when queried, she also maintained that she did not have my phone number which was one of the things I had filled in the forms during application. All day long I was waiting for the call to come thru and in fact I rang child support IRD a few times after the date of hearing for results.

   This issue was dealt with in a very underhanded manner. If there is anything that can be done here I would like some advice. If not the CS review process itself needs a review and should be taken into account.

   Comment by starr — Tue 19th September 2006 @ 1:49 pm

9. 

   in truth i think the Cs payers should be informed which bank account the money goes into.
   have just found out that the CS i am paying is actually going into my mother-in-laws account. She has been bragging to a few people. So in rwality CS is not really getting used on my kid. Halting all payments from now on.

   Comment by starr — Tue 19th September 2006 @ 2:55 pm

10. 

    no.4 brett, i like the idea of that,
    Thoreau, Henry David (thôr`?, th?r?`), 1817—62, American author and naturalist, b. Concord, Mass., grad. Harvard, 1837. Thoreau is considered one of the most influential figures in American thought and literature. A supreme individualist, he championed the human spirit against materialism and social conformity. His most famous book, Walden (1854), is an eloquent account of his experiment in near-solitary living in close harmony with nature; it is also an expression of his transcendentalist philosophy (see transcendentalism transcendentalism (tr?n’s?nd?n`t?l?z?m) [Lat.,=overpassing], in literature, philosophical and literary movement that flourished in New England from about 1836 to 1860.
    One of Thoreau’s most important works, the essay “Civil Disobedience” (1849), grew out of an overnight stay in prison as a result of his conscientious refusal to pay a poll tax that supported the Mexican War, which to Thoreau represented an effort to extend slavery. Thoreau’s advocacy of civil disobedience as a means for the individual to protest those actions of his government that he considers unjust has had a wide-ranging impact–on the British Labour movement, the passive resistance independence movement led by Gandhi in India, and the nonviolent civil-rights movement led by Martin Luther King in the United States.

    Comment by civil dissident — Tue 19th September 2006 @ 4:46 pm

11. 

    What about challenging the extraction of CS from income, that way we might be able to call on the combined strengths of unions nationwide to organise rolling stoppages or a go slow.

    Comment by XSryder — Fri 22nd September 2006 @ 5:11 pm

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