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CYF “name and shame” website

Filed under: General — UF @ 4:12 pm Tue 23rd January 2007

The blog site that names and shames CYF employees who parents have felt bullied or intimidated by, has caused reaction from PSA union and CYF general manager Lorraine Williams, who says she “could not promise teh department will always get it right”.

Well the solution is obvious – to set up a complaints Authority to investigate such allegations adn greviances, as United Future deputy leader Judy Turner said today.

It would aslo do a lot of other good. Is this a generally agreed good idea?

80 Responses to “CYF “name and shame” website”

  1. wendy says:

    I agree their needs to be a complaints authority.

  2. Scrap_The_CSA says:

    Another complaints authority? Be as effective as the PCA no doubt.

    Problem is that no one trusts complaints authorities as they just become another layer of dross.

    Its not removing causes its adding another layer of bureaucracy.

    So from my view no, not a generally agreed good idea.

    Regards

    Scrap

  3. wendy says:

    yes thats true Scrap. I didn’t think about that. What are peoples thoughts on the website in general?

  4. john says:

    I reckon the best complaints authority is sites such as this on the internet. A major cause of the downfall of the Stalinist regime in Russia was not some “complaints authority” but the underground writings of men such as Solzenetsym.
    The Communists were not able to stifle public dissent- I will be interested to see how much success the NZ apparatchiks can achieve in shutting down dissenting websites such as http://www.cyfswatch.blogspot.com/

  5. dad4justice says:

    I am 100 per cent behind the cyfswatch website and the tactic of name and shame. Just as I am equally proud of http://www.Handsonequalparent.org.nz scroll of shame. I hope they put up the low life social workers that put the knife into me, as I sent their names through today. If they are shut down. I will create a blog /website where I intend on naming and shaming cops, judges, family court psychologists, lawyers and social workers and I will welcome any litigation. I have overwhelming evidence the experts were wrong and overwhelming evidence that there was criminality.

    Judy Turner is part of that inept disgraceful political party that set up the totally ineffective Families Commission.Her leader Peter Dunne protects the identity of drug dealers while crushing countless men with his child support extortion racket. We do not need political cronies of the present Government making up more countless, pointless bureaucratic positions. We already have enough toothless Government corporations gliding along on corporate pay rates without any accountability or scrutiny. All of them have made an ‘art form’ out off writing off complaints over the years.

    How can State agencies that continue to be a failure to our children claim that they have established themselves on the welfare and best interests of child as their paramount principle?

  6. Alastair says:

    How do we hold it truely independent in a country such as NZ. probably the only way is have independent (Not Jucicial, Lawyers, S/W’s, or similar) just joe public, on local panels with power to walk into offices and sieze files

  7. julie says:

    Alastair,

    How do we hold it truely independent in a country such as NZ.

    Bring back the Privy Council!!!!

  8. Jim Bailey says:

    Great stuff – This is the most exciting and promising thing we have had since BOTHERING began – In fact its another form of BOTHERING is it not?

    I agree with those suggesting its nonsense to open yet another so called complaints authority

    These Authorities/Commissions/Onbudsmen/etc have proved useless to Javan and my progress/complaints re FC-CS-WINZ-School-Local body networks etc, over the last 12 years and I have heard similar from many others some on this forum.

    I have asked the http://www.cyfswatch.blogspot.com/ Blog owner via E-Mail to send the info re private addresses etc for these and any other scrum that damage our **Whole-NATURAL-Biological-FAMILIES** so we can add them to the Nominations for Shame (The list of those to be BOTHERED)

    As I have said to enquiring media many times in the last few days – I do not know who it is but applaud their courage and have linked HandsOnEqualParent to the site

    I am especially inspired by Helens responce

    By the way all are invited to add to the nominations anywhere in NZ

    We begin BOTHERING in earnest again shortly.

    We will be calling on many more to support the BOTHERING and the **NZ-FATHERS-Coalition** nation-wide – I have asked all to return their **Coalition-BOOKS** with their new recruits and updates to be added to the master and will resend a new one to those who recognise my costs with a $20-0 note.

    Much will depend on the outcome of my **Defended Hearing** re the so called disorderly conduct charge as to what I can do but I hope either way many more are inspired. Its 10 times more effective than any commission and the Media gives voice to those who dare

    The more who get their story told loud and clear the more we will get the support of Joe public – We have no choice but to go thru the negative affect stage – Many of us are in this for the longhaul and refuse to be bothered by the appathy and negative feedback.

    We will need to rethink our tactics once it is clear wether some POLICE and some JUDICIARY are clearly on the growing beneficiary payrole of those who truely suck the taxpayer to fulfil the aims of the **Empire of Injustice**.

    I believe the charge is a hastily trumped up nonsense and a deliberate ploy to protect those who damage our **Whole-NATURAL-Biological-FAMILIES** by Helens agents in the Anti-Family brigade.

    Go http://www.handsonequalparent.org.nz/41379/52897.html

    Onward – Jim

  9. Bevan Berg says:

    It would be even more interesting if the unhealthy relationship between some cyf staff and family court staff was exposed. That may be the catylist for the 24/7 response. Threatening that overall control.

  10. julie says:

    More than a dozen child youth and family social workers are being offered police protection after their names, personal details and abusive allegations were published on a website.

    panic

    I am sure the public can’t be foolish enough to think parents who have suffered through CYFS and the FC are going to kill them yet the public must hear the stories are real else why would police protection be involved.

    Oh, this is massive and they know it. They have decades of abuse out there to be exposed.

    Jim, good luck for today.

    Simon Collins,

    Wondeful article in the NZHerald.

  11. dad4justice says:

    Bevan,
    The correlation between the conniving cyfs, cops and family court is beyond belief, as my experience indicates that they operate in highly secretive/lewd world where alienated parents are often not even told of hearings where orders are rubber stamped by a sinister judge . I attended a family group conference ( the week before Christmas ) and a judge said to me he is sick and tired of lawyers and cyfs staff deliberately shutting children out of the lives of biological families. He thanked me for my meaningful input, which should see an alienated grand mother, re-united with her grand son after 6 heartbroken years.
    I am meeting with cyfs staff this afternoon on various matters and after that I am going to the office of a feminazi bitch lawyer and girlyman child counsel. These cretins did not have the decency to tell yet another heart broken mother that there was a hearing regarding her 5 state stolen kids last week! The judge gave custody to cyfs because the lawyers were on holidays and the evil cyfs has another 6 months to damage the children!

    This family court — cyfs — lawyer — psychologist cess pit is nothing more than a lucrative gravy train of deceit, planned by gender bias government orchestrating a mandate hell bent on destroying as many families as possible, at the same time these scum get extremely well paid for all their insidious destructive behaviour!

    Police protecting cyfs employee’s -poor things – no doubt more ACC claims for hurt feelings – bloody pathetic maggots – get hard – look at the injustice – as they started this !!!

    I was a fly on the wall when Lianne Dalziel in 2002 instructed the judicial system here in Christchurch — what a moronic radical feminazi bitch! This is one sick country and its about bloody time these scum were named and shamed.

    I have put the cyfs social workers up on the site and I challenge police to come around for a chat ! See if I care -my neighbours think I am a cop as they’re always visiting a once decent dad shafted by a hateful gender bias system !!!

    To hell with the consequences as our CHILDREN DESERVE BETTER.

  12. Bevan Berg says:

    I doubt many would argue that our children deserve better. The real question is – is it “OUR Children” or “our CHILDREN”?

  13. Kevin Owen says:

    The same philosophy is throughout our education system, corrections, health system etc. You might of noticed they are all failing our children like cpys is. The reason none of it worked in the first place.

    The quote below may interest some

    Elementary and Secondary Education Act.

    In 1965 came the Elementary and Secondary Education Act

    This essentially put Psychiatry and Psychology in the drivers seat of society and firmly established the policies that would harm our children’s minds for the next thirty years.

    The ESEA allocated massive federal funds and opened the school doors to a flood of Psychiatrists’ Psychologists, Psychiatric Social Workers, Psychiatric Programs, Psychological Programs and Psychological Testing that continues today.

  14. Alan Radford says:

    Has http://www.cyfswatch.blogspot.com/ been blocked? I can not get it. If it is blocked then here is proof that free speech in NZ is a hollow dream. “Free” just so long as it agrees with what the censors agree with. In my opinion, nobody, even CYFs workers, should be immune from prosecution, if they act corruptly, lie, abuse children, use the absolute power of their position to further personal prejudices. CYFs workers have absolute power, thus we have absolute powerlessness. The welfare of our families comes down to sheer luck. Considering their power, they are really touchy! If they always acted properly, what is there to fear?

  15. julie says:

    Hi Alan,

    The link you gave goes on to another page. Try the URL link on comment 9 or comment 4.

  16. dad4justice says:

    I hear that google and the Ministry of Development are at present working on a resolution on the fate of the website .

    If it is closed down then the Socialist Government cannot defend the indefensible .Many parents have irrefutable evidence the FC and Cyfs experts were WRONG . If they do this simply underlines the need for a full public inquiry.

    However do you think a Government that is built on a orchestrated litany of corruption would know the meaning of words like responsibilty and accountability.

  17. John Brett says:

    According to NZ Herald reports, the Ministry of Social Development CEO Peter Hughes has told taxpayer-funded lawyers to “do whatever is necessary to get rid of this website” and claims “we will be working 24/7 until that is done”.

    Precedent suggests that Google are unlikely to cave in to our little banana republic minority government.

    The battle in fact will attract a world wide audience interested in freedom of the Internet.
    The NZ Government could easily end up looking like a petulant bullying tin-pot regime.

    Other more powerful governments might learn that they cannot stifle criticism either.

    A precedent will have been created-
    The sunlight of scrutiny will prove to be the best disinfectant.

  18. Graeme says:

    How Green is MP Sue Bradford she is going on about stopping smacking to prevent child abuse but what about CYF.

    CYF I suspect do far more emotional damage then that of parents smacking their children ever could.

    Sue I am not disagreeing with the anti smacking bill what I am saying is that CYF is a bigger problem and more important issue overall.

    Come on Sue help us make CYF more accountable that’s all we ask.

    We are not asking you to take sides but give us a voice and chance to get the children we love and adore back. If you think the government cares more about our children then we do and can do a better job then us you are dreaming.

    Children have been hit by foster parents, killed raped in CYF care or because of their mistakes. Any child abuse is not good enough one case is one to many let alone if it is under a government department who keep getting away with mistakes. Please Sue and other MP’s who claim to care we need your help.

    Social Workers have a code of ethics and registration panels, but what’s the point of all this, if at the end of the day the issues are with the department and no one will act. There is no point shooting the messenger with all these codes and rules if they are toothless and useless.

    The Government wants to hold individual Social Workers accountable which is great but all that will do is hang them out to dry while the department keeps on going. Given CYF tent to lie and push the blame onto front line staff to cover-up for higher management mistakes I fail to see how anything will change.

    Come on MR Hughes CEO and Ruth Dyson do something other then blast this webpage. Deal with the incidences and you would find people would not have to wrote in.

    I don’t blame people for not putting their names on this webpage as you would make life harder on them and their families. MR Hughes you are the gutless one by not dealing with the problems which allowed things to get to this extreme.

    How would you feel if your family life, safety and security was turned up side down and all put under threat. Once you put yourself in our shoes you might understand why people are so angry and you should of seen this coming after so long. Don’t shoot the messenger (this webpage) but deal with the issues like a man.

    One more comment MR Hughes what’s more gutless giving people a free phone number to anomalously report t child abuse to f**k people over they have a grudge against, or setting up and anomalous blog to speak the truth.

    In the same way parents of malicious complaints can not defend themselves to CYF I hope you and the staff now no it feels to be totally F**ked over with out any way of defending yourselves.

    Both the CEO and Government should be ashamed that things ever got to this point we now face.

  19. Jim Bailey says:

    Graeme,

    Wake up – Sue Bradford – Peter Hughes don’t care a rats bottom about our Kids

    They are deliberately trying to damage our **Whole-NATURAL-Biological-FAMILIES** and endorse current Govt Policy for their own aggrandisement/ pvt agenda or perhaps even reponding to hurts from their own pasts – who knows what drives the Anti-Family-Brigade?

    The best we can do is bring this reality to the public by BOTHERING them at their Hearths where they BOTHER us

    Many of us have gone way beyond appealing to the Human/Family side we hoped these people had.. As in “we know the Russians love their kids” — Sorry their have proved beyond doubt that their agenda is NOT Family Orientated

    Most of us at the front line have done that for many years as have our predecessors

    Most of us at the front line Parent/GrandParent our Kids and fight on to do our best to make sure current heinous Law and Social Policy does not steal our Kids, Children and Grandchildren

    Have you not noticed the JimB’s — Kerry — Paul and Mike Catton — and many of the others have their Families — We aren’t as the media would have it either deadbeat or disgruntled DADs we are doing the job of Parenting our Kids and GrandParenting our GrandKids

    We fight on for their right to do the same for their Kids and will do time (AS was the JP who presided over my defended case against so called **Disorderly Behaviour**, so willing to do) if that is what it means to expose those who damage our **Whole-NATURAL-Biological-FAMILIES**

    Come join us at our Kid orientated – Strategy-Buddy-Equal Parenting meetings known as **Bacon Sandwiches** most Saturdays at 1pm — Bring something food wise to share — bring your kids/grandkids if you can — If you can’t you’re bound to meet someone who can help you change that and stand with you while you do

    If you have a look a John-P’s list and/or my list to find others doing something similar in your town or perhaps start your own **Bacon Sandwiches** . For more detail go http://www.handsonequalparent.org.nz/48597/12049.html

    Onward — Jim
    HandsOnEqualParent / **NZ-FATHERS-Coalition**

  20. dad4justice says:

    Its Official on Trade Me Opinion thread titled “Dear cyfswatch” thread I am the mystery man behind the blog as Tim Barnetts homosexual friend called Tom alias darthman from Christchurch City has said so.

    I have complained about this twisted screwballs criminal comments, however the powers of be, allow malicious slander to run rampant without giving me the chance to counteract his claims . If anybody is a member of Trade Me can you complain, as the dirtbags won’t listen to me as they have banned me because of the Tom or Tim chap !!!!

  21. julie says:

    Dads4justice

    The blogger of cyfswatch has given his own story online. It is not you although you would be the first guess for most, that is just common sense. Look how much you do and how fond everyone is of you.

    Take it as a compliment for your hard work. Don’t worry about fools like Tom or Tim or should I say, TimTom. LOL

    He will look the fool soon enough.

  22. Bryn says:

    My daughter (23) is in the middle of a stoush with CYFS and I am waiting on a family court date. It seems that certain members of her mothers family and their friends have issues with her being a single mother. I will give the full story when I have the information.
    Suffice it to say, I fully support public accountability and the negating of secrecy for it’s own sake.

  23. Deela says:

    All I know that is 19 years ago Dept of Social Welfare and Police stepped in and stopped a ‘toddler’ relative of mine from being murdered. Now a caregiver himelf, thanks to schools and believe it or not early help from social workers. Kids are dying in NZ someone is doing it. If it is good enough to print Social Workers names, these lily white families should print theirs.

  24. John Brett says:

    So CYPS got it right once, 19 years ago.
    That’s nice to hear, lovely, whoopdy doo.
    Is this reason to accuse good families of being child murderers?
    A child is 75 times more at risk if removed from the protection of it’s natural father.
    CYPS are very good at excluding fathers from children’s lives- (i.e. promoting child abuse)

    CYPS are able to work in secret, and quick to take their revenge on anyone who speaks up or opposes them.

    A good parent would be very unwise to criticize CYPS publicaly

  25. Interestingly your site comes up in a lot of searches, the UK social workers named site is here http://nameshamesocialworkers.blogspot.com/

  26. Bob says:

    Hi all, I agree with the comment that says “Problem is that no one trusts complaints authorities as they just become another layer of dross” Peter Hughes gets the final say with the Cyf review panel, which is only as good as the information they get. I come across another blog about “Does FGC mean “Family Group Conferences” or “ForeGone Conclusions”… ? You can find it at http://familygroupconferences.blogspot.com/ As a father I got screwed at a FGC in the same way the blog talks about and done no better in the family court system either. I suggest you all read the blog and think about the bigger picture. Its hard to see how Men will win without a fight and changes starting with Cyf working all the way up. How Cyf write you up in their reports carries a lot of weight in court and lawyer for the child. If you can get them on side you have a chance. Our child was moved out the area so I deal with another office now and what a difference that made, The Greymouth office sucks and the manager can not be trusted. In my view everything Graeme Axford wrote about Christine McKenna, is to kind she is far worse then he describes. I don’t know Graeme but seen him protesting out side the CYFS office for the past 6 months or more and viewed his youtude videos on http://www.youtube.com/user/talk2graeme We need more Men like him working for CYFS.

  27. There was global publicity at the name and shame website as they attempted and eventually did take the site down, but only because of personal threats. OK don’t threaten any of them publicly that only gives them ammunition to remove the site, there are tens of thousands of people in our situation all over the world who have had their kids removed without good reason and even in the instances where they social workers have been PROOVED wrong they lied in court are not held accountable for their actions nor tried of perjury. The internet is vastly bigger than any one state. I say more and more name and shame sites all over the world and better still all linked to each other all carrying the same information, they can’t take us all on, and with a bit of luck it will cost them a fortune to try. If they have nothing to hide what have they got to worry about, “what? social worker anonyminity is in the interests of the children?” we hear them cry and that’s the reason why the lying scum social workers don’t get named, I think not!

  28. Graeme says:

    It looks like the http://www.youbethejudge.org/ webpage has been taken down or having big problems like never before. The webpage was about “You Be The Judge – Family Court Issues in New Zealand and the world. What is going on at CYFS? Social Justice in NZ – Government Agencies and kidnappings” In the same way they went after CYFSwatch it looks like youbethejudge is next and then who knows next time you come here this could be gone as well LOL, I hope not, so much for free speech.

  29. Martin Swash says:

    http://www.youbethejudge.org/ might have been taken down, but it still remains in the Cache of most proxy servers. To access a Cached site simply do a google search and select the small blue “Cached” underneath the entry

  30. Hans Laven says:

    The talk2graeme youtube articles were good. CYFS management responds with only platitudes and positive spin. The case highlighted a situation I have come across a number of times in casework in which a father or other family member speaks rudely to the social worker who then pursues a vendetta, not out of any real interest in the needs of the children but because of power tripping and retribution.

    Check out this one, and note the total intransigence of CYFS management who choose to ignore what’s going on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fyxyw75FUE&feature=related

  31. You will be glad to know that copies of all websites are held on the WayBackMachine http://www.archive.org/web/web.php and “YouBeTheJudge” including some but not all linking pages here.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20080119120319/http://youbethejudge.org/

    All of the other sites that have been closed down as mentioned in previous posts are also there!

    What was the web address of the site that named the SW Scum?

    Sadly since they have destroyed our families we have nothing but time on our hands, perhaps its time to make a concerted effort to get many sites containing the same information scattered all over the internet, they cannot take them all down!

    Use public blog sites and social network sites, e.g. set up a “myspace, bebo,facebook” and any other of the big social networking sites (HERE http://social-networking-websites-review.toptenreviews.com/) Make an account in the name of the social worker you want to name, send up a photograph of him/her, many of them allow a job description, my oh my if ever there was an opportunity to say how well you do your job! Then name them in yet another social network / blog site, then set up a link to their social network site. Perhaps set up several similar blog sites, but don’t make them all public, so IF they manage to close one, the next one can take over. Blogger for example allows you to do this; it also permits anonymous posts to be added, the perfect medium.

    If you do this then “they” have to take on the global blog and social networking hosts, who more or less are keen on the free speech principle, it becomes time consuming and costly for them, and with a bit of luck would get a lot of publicity. Sounds perfect to me!

    Don’t set up your own domain unless you can host it is a country that isn’t flavour of the month with western countries whose governments like to push people around, perhaps Russia or China and the like.

    The internet sites where the SW scum are named for sure touch’s a raw nerve with them for which I am eternally grateful. We need to touch nerve on nerve on nerve until they have an excruciating death, similar to that which they put those at the receiving end of their injustice through.

    So many of us have been blinded yet “they” have perfect sight… an eye for an eye!

  32. Captain Obvious says:

    Ill start a website where we can name crap parents who spend their time whining about CYFS rather than growing up

  33. dad4justice says:

    Mr Obvious give me a email to [email protected] and I will
    provide you a list of children raped while in CYFS care!

  34. John this is so so true. CYFFS hate solo mothers too. They spent all the time with my false accusers and degrading liars, then before I knew it at the time I was drawn, quartered and hung without a trial nor hearing inside the family court. Yes I was guilty according to these cold hearted Nazis. I tried to stick up for what little rights I now know I have and they tore me to pieces, and knocked anyone who came in my defense. CYFFS would never ever think about helping anyone would they. This Gestapo has messed up so many lives with their horrible perverted lies and slander. I know of a 13 year old girl who is now beaten, neglected and emotionally abused. CYFFS couldn’t give a F**** now that they have got her away from her innocent mother. Yep they hand this 13 year old over to an abuser, someone who took an axe to a poor cat and cut it from its head to its tail right down the middle and left the poor creature to die a horrible death. This is the kind of person that these cold hearted lying Nazis want our beloved kids to be raised by. CYFFS can go to HELL, HELL, HELL. CYFFS are of pure vindictive EVIL. They help no one, they save no one. CYFFS are the true abusers, they are drunk with the blood of the martyrs, they are the beast himself. CYFFS have taken away my life, they have destroyed my family with so many lies. I am never going to forgive them, why should I CYFFS are the Devil, and I long for the day that I see them burn in hell for all the atrocities that they commit on the innocent biological families. CYFFS don’t want real mothers and real fathers. There are so many hurting parents and children out there we need to have our stories aired. The truth needs to be told, and justice needs to finally come to all those innocent parents and children who have been hurt, destroyed and violated by these cruel Nazi SS femmi fascists.

  35. Captain Obvious, you are a coward and an asshole for saying that. You selfish pratt, I wonder how you’de like to have someone you love taken away from you, or are you just like one of those cold blooded CYFFS NAZIS, thoughtless, immoral liars, without any feelings nor compassion. Your crude sarcasm makes me want to throw up. You have no idea of the unlimited suffering that CYFFS have caused so many innocent families. Are you from another planet? I think you better do some positive research. It’s not about whining nor growing up mate, its about getting the truth out there, justice for the families who suffer, and to make these evil vindictive social workers and all who conspire with them that take part in their evil exactly what these CYFFS vampires deserve. If I had my way I’de lock them all up in a cold dark dungeon and throw away the key, that goes for corrupt lawyers, (especially child consel), dirty low life shrinks and asshole psychologists who finish off CYFFS dirty work and put the icing on their cake. These Nazis are making a killing out of the system, while breaking many hearts along the way. CYFFS are getting away with murder, pain, destruction and suicides. Time CYFFS paid their dues. Captian Obvious you are an asshole just like the CYFFS GESTAPO!!!!!!

  36. John Brett says:

    Hi Michelle
    Divide and rule is a time proven strategy. Set men against women has been a very sucessful strategy
    Yes I know that women also get a bad time- my daughter lost her children for a time to CYPS.
    Now I have a plan to sue CYPS over their interventions 16 years ago. Fortunately the facts are very simple and clear, the outcome was conclusive (in my favour),and the damage very significant. There is no personal gain for me, I would just like them to be humiliated- so that their failure becomes very public, so they lose the confidence of the public and the politicians, and so that they will be less likely to do the same things again. I will start looking for a good QC interested in the case
    Regards

    john

  37. Graeme says:

    I agree with this comment “Set men against women has been a very successful strategy. I have seen this happen many times, CYF is the problem and the genders need to see this and not fight each other as you will be playing the game, as I call it. In the mean time the children suffer.. I think its fair to say this system is unjust and needs to be changed so both sides get a fairer deal for the sake of our children. Mum’s & Dad’s need to when possible stick together to spite their differences when taking on CYF. I have seen both genders get a really crap deal from CYF and neither one wins, other then CYF…

  38. SicKofNZ says:

    Captain Obvious says:
    Ill start a website where we can name crap parents who spend their time whining about CYFS rather than growing up

    Being discriminated against by CYFS because of my gender is not remedied by growing up nor desisting from whining.

    My tape recordings of CYFS staff that revealed deliberate lies that affected my children’s safety do not disappear if I grow up or stop whining.

    My stolen mobile phone that was held in a CYFS staff members desk drawer for six months, while CYFS denied possession of my property, was returned to me because I DID WHINE to my Insurance Company who pressured the criminals in to dropping their nutz and returning my property almost immediately.

    CYFS deserve every bit of whining that is directed at them. When CYFS begin to heed scientific studies, rather than their clinging to fraudulent statistics, then I expect the whining will diminish. People whine for a reason!

    What’s your excuse for whining here? Bored? No man to take your hatred out on today?

  39. julie says:

    Hi Michelle, it is real nice to have your comments. I am so pleased you are speaking up.

    There are thousands of mothers who feel exactly the same way.

  40. andrew says:

    I saw your posting on CYFS name and shame website at MENZ issues. I am interested in hearing how you got on regarding your issues with schools/CYFS etc? I have issues that sound similar to yours with these organisations! Please email back.
    Andrew

  41. Michelle Stewart says:

    Dearest John Brett. I like what you say, and I thank you. Your words are true, especially when you say that they work in secret and take their revenge on anyone who speaks up or opposes them. I like to say this happens to mothers’ too, especially “poor” solo mothers who have little support around them and become their prime victims of CYFFS cruel shocking abuse. Once that 1st false telephone call is logged, you seem to be living on borrowed time with your family. Evil CYFFS have it all worked out through the corrupt family courts of NZ before you get the right to speak, they simply pay off court appointed shirnks, child counsel lawyers, and wankie psychologists to present the court with their forged dirty pieces of paper to blacken the name of the parent accused, whether they be the biological mother or the biological father. The reports will read if you are a mother that you are suffering from a severe mental disorder and if you are a father then they will hit you with the sexual abuse buzz. It’s all a shame, and they are doing it for big bucks and our Government don’t give a stuff, they are off guzzling down expensive bottles of wine, $500.00 rip off luxury dinners, and porn movies at $20.00 a pop, and they are way to busy beneficiary bashing to be bothered cleaning up some no-good Nazi corrupt government officials.

  42. Kiwi In Thailand says:

    I am sure that nearly all men on here support female as well as male CYFS victims too. It is all about government finances , using their pawns and laws to increase their coffers.
    CYFS is an even bigger injustice than fathers have to face, well i think that anyway. I hope that you get some peace and justice Michelle

  43. Michelle Stewart says:

    I have nothing against men, most of my closest best friends are all 100% male. My my you seem to have a lot of hang ups. Don’t pass judgment unless you know the true situation. I’m not whining, and telling it how I have seen my side of the story unfold over a long period of time. Bored no, why would I ever get bored. I have plenty of good things to keep me occupied, for instance my 5 adorable pure Siamese cats and 3 moggies to keep me busy and amused. Yep I’ll admit my hatred, and it’s all directed to CYFFS and their Nazi lying bunch of facist SS Gestapo pigs who conspire with them. CYFFS are evil though and through. I have plenty of good men around me most of the time, I have nothing against men. What’s your problem Captain Obvious, there’s no need to be rude, nasty, sarcastic and mean when I’m stating fact not fiction. I know how these mongrels’ CYFFS operate and in my opinion they should be shut down for good,I’m gonna see all of those CYFFS pricks burn in the fires of HELL because none of them give a flying fuck about any of our beloved children. CYFFS are in-humane lying motherf****** who can rott in HELL HELL HELL

  44. mits says:

    From personal experience I can tell you that if you really want to upset an CYFFs employee simply ask them, as politely as possible “what are your qualifications to do this work?”
    I dont know why but those few words translate into something extremely offensive in CYFFs land. You wont get an answer most of the time but it is interesting to see the reaction. Frothing at the mouth, outrage and convulsions can be expected as a matter of course from having the audacity to ask, politely as possible, “what are your qualifications to do this work?”
    So therefore the translation to CYFFs speak must be pretty outrageous.
    I never found out, what it translates too that makes them so upset. (or their qualifications either come to that)

  45. Dave says:

    Mits, This speaks volumes.
    I had a similar experience with Council for the Child in the Family Court. I asked very politely what his qualifications in child development were. Boy did he hit the roof! I had a witness with me and was recording the interview so he quickly calmed himself down. I didn’t press the point – no need to, since it was all on tape. Through the interview this must have been really screwing with his head. Right at the end of the interview he came back to the question of his own accord and tried to answer it.

    In my profession I am often asked for a CV or a CV summary by my customers to establish my credentials to do the work they want. It is simply being professional.

  46. Stacey says:

    I would like to say shame on the Kaitaia CYF’s who refuse to take knowledge of child abuse taking place in their town due to them knowing (usually by family relation) of the person who is committing the child abuse and/or neglect!

  47. Connie Johnson says:

    Why are we still reading the same day in and day out? Cyps killing off generations Is there not one social worker in any one dept who can stand up and take ownership for soooo many mistakes that there peers are making but no you are all in it together because noone s come knocking on my door or picked up the phone and made a fucking phonecall but yet u can answer the fucking phone and talk shit with people that are making worse mistakes than what theyre fucking going on about out of spite???????? Ok like im still watching on the news and yet it seems like the answer is always no to everyone oh we will make mistakes as cyfs and put helpless kids with adults harming them and cant fight them off but you cant fucking get the kids out of that situation when u can fucking c that its wrong u dumb fucks and u got your qualification in what??????? In how to harm people and families???? Fuck sakes make me unhealthy and sick over all your unnecessary bullshit yeah bull fucking shit !!!!!???

  48. Connie Johnson says:

    Here cyps here’s some advice: what to do: find my daughter and my son bring them to me and then I can tell them how wrong yous all were and show them evidence by all my employers friends families and witnesses and documentation and you’d can figure out the rest yourselves either way my children are going to find out about your little sneaky business scam going on and I get to see the look on your faces when me and my babies find the truth out OK do ya think you can handle that it will only take 5 minutes not over 25 years fucken arssholes

  49. kirsty says:

    Not only men and solo mothers they are breaking up, families too!
    I took my new born to the hospital as noticed he wasn’t using his arm. Xray showed a fracture, we can’t explain it. He hasn’t been in pain, he just wasn’t using it.
    They then did a full body xray and it showed healing fractures in his leg which we couldnt explain. I have vidoeos every day of his life and gave them to the hosp, cyfs and police as the pediatrician said my son would of been in pain and someone would of noticed. Not once did he show any signs of pain. My midwife, plunket and GP had nothing bad to say about us. Yet even with no history of abuse, the hospital can’t even give us timelines on this and to top it off my son had a second xray to check they were healing find and they “found” a fraacture in his spine which Im adament is a new one whilst he hasnt been in my care as has never been mentioned before BUT apparently it was within the same times as his legs but never noted….
    System is so wrong. So my partner and I are the concerned parents, that notice something is not right, take him to get medical treatment and get him taken off us… and yet those who dont take their children to get care get to keep them..
    We believe our son has a medical issue, but it’s a matter of testing and finding it which the hospital pediatrician doesnt want to do as he is saying its child abuse…

  50. Ashley Cook says:

    Ive done everything cyfs asked of me to help my son even telling them my personal life story and now they are not going to assess my son into my care because they said i abandoned him… not true i stated the facts that i was pritty much held against my own will and still am to this day because the father of my youngest son wont sign a passport for him i swore never yo leave one of my babirs in another country without me again. I havr made attempts to go back but child support said they would most likely keep me in nz if i were to return because i owe child support yet im paying it so i cant leave with my babies and i cant leave without WTF

  51. Connie says:

    The only thing that makes you different to everyone else CYPS if 3 things: A telephone, A piece of paper, and your lies.

  52. Connie says:

    As i lay here trying to sleep on my sons 16th birthday all i can think about is cyps and how they love to watch my babies see there mother go through torture cypf love watching children suffer by children watching there mother suffer through the torture that cyps put me through to cyps yourd quite happily shut down a bar 3 strikes and you murder rape kids and still keep your door open for 100 strikes? Answer: Yes. Cant wait to have my day with you just remember this CYPS i have worked so hard to get to where i am nobody is ruining this chance for me nobody

  53. Connie says:

    How about i bash you cyps and put you in hospital and then take your babies off you and give them to the one that just finished bashing you because thats what you did to me plus the rest of it you pack of sadistic sickos

  54. Connie says:

    To CYPS,

    If death penalty was still in New Zealand, I would string you up and execute you myself, and quite happily. 🙂

  55. Allan Harvey says:

    Connie, we hear your pain.
    I hope you have good support to help you be there for your kids.

  56. Connie says:

    Cyfs aye like picking on innocent you pack of ass kissing kiss ass mother fuckers. You kissing ass with lawyers laughing around the place having cups of teas with each other rubbing your hands together who u can fuck over today go shove yr acts up yr ass because you honestly believed that noone like me would ever come across your pathetic cruel silly little game here ill spell it out one last time GO SHOVE YR ACTS UP YOUR ASS YOU AND MY PATHETIC LAWYERS you ass licking fucks yous make me sick so much i think u knw what id love to do to yous right now and yous left to have babies out of benefitting from me and my babies and fucking screwing with our minds for the hell of it yous need to be shot

  57. Connie says:

    You played that real well cyps and ex lawyers now i look back you two faced money hungry bastards and to think i had no idea but yous already knew that and yous all knw who yous are

  58. Connie says:

    From me and my two babies forever

  59. Connie says:

    Thanks allan harvey for your thoughts and consideration but no theres no support from those that are responsible for all these years of torment and hell put on me and my suffering babies and still not.

  60. Connie says:

    And i dont want any from them neither do my children.

  61. dunnuffinwrong says:

    # 50 Kirsty, I read out your brief story in August to some friends of mine after your post. I got the impression that we all felt the same deep compassion and hope for you and your child in a dreadful situation. Share more with us if you will…what can be done..?

    #59 Connie, you are hurting and angry..since your not being edited or challenged here feel free to make this page your own. Rant and cry and scream and swear because no one minds about the language but we can only read and wonder when we would rather figure how the fuck we can help somehow.
    Many of us reading these pages are blokes that feel deep, deep hurt from loss of access to our children and through courts and access issues. Some suffer from cyfs total failures too.
    Those govt workers that only exist to administer adjustments to our family’s futures often do so in retribution of their own failures without any understanding or compassion. They piss me off.
    Free speech is great, but who is listening? I’m not sure.

  62. Connie says:

    Kirsty thats just it not just anyone can just do anything about it or I would be thats the mastermind behind there money trafficking games info = money lies = money big money it seems money is the answer to get out of there tangle of webs you know when you sit there once your there chosen lucky dip and u think oh yep this is so wrong and spiteful that they can lie to a judge if social worker dont like you out of spite and that oh yep ill have my baby home because ive done nothing wrong and the next minute ten years later yr still waiting and its still a process yeah right how easy is that for them

  63. Connie says:

    Thankyou to dunnuffinwrong for your reply read it wrong thought it was from kirsty need some way of breaking the silence with cyfs this is the only way to address it hoping the monsters that did this and still is reads my truth since this power of authority cyps overrules the world and are never wrong this is the only place i get to let them know what the fuck theyve done and that im not giving up since they dont acknowledge nothing so keep this site going it might stop some from actually following through

  64. Connie says:

    Cyfs aye the more i research the more the jigsaw starts coming together you really think that changing acts all the time covers up the slack pathetic crime yr manipulative social workers do or by calling it valnurable childrens service no and no and no again you spend all that time and money covering up and using the police too to cover up yr shit but cant take 5 mins to correct my life of happiness you took away??? Disgusting vomit sick horrified in shock angry and everything else right now at u poor others that have no idea DAM!!!!!!

  65. Gary says:

    I had good results with the Police Complaints Authority so I don’t think there’s a reason to think a CYFS Complaints Authority would be toothless. Someone should also know about a woman Petra at Marinoto West Youth Team who is really into reporting parents whose children and teens have mental health issues to CYFS for the most trivial of reasons. She really gets off on it.

  66. connie says:

    Since Im the one my daughter is the closest to I will speak for her when it comes to love and truth – cyfs if i needed you ever or my baby girl im sure i she would of asked to why she always comes to me AND NOT YOU YOU SMART ASS.
    And i already know as a mother/mum know what my daughter thinks of what u call a service not quite sure what good you do than what yr well known for and it would be fair to say if anyone is mental unfit neglecting abusive mentally physically emotionally and the million other abusiveness words my daughter would say yes mum thats what cyps are a pack of useless lazy celf centered violent evil monsters. Yep thats what my daughter and i think of you. Have a horrible day. Ps. My daughter would love to have you in court too standing right by my side. Have a nasty day.

  67. connie says:

    I love.you my son and daughter and noone or.no department or no money.or no amount of time or no lies or no amount of paper or nothing can ever ever never take that away or no amount of years xxxxxxxxxxxxxxooooooooooooooooooooxxxx or no bitch or bastard

  68. connie says:

    Getting close now cyps what are you going.to.say when i have both my children standing next to me with evidence?????? i hope you have yr little pathetic pile of bullshit papers next to ur lying ass ready

  69. connie says:

    We will soon.see if you have been.doing what you were paid to do collen boyer and lucia fucking.stowers fuck you collen.you worthless piece of shit and all your little kiss ass bitches next to you

  70. Connie says:

    Cyfs aye u like carrying on you know the funny thing is is that if you had never fucked up from the start i wouldnt be carrying on remember that ummmm 12 years old mutha fuckr

  71. Connie says:

    Yeah me at 12 – to cyps ihateuihateuihateuihateuihateuihateuihateuihateuihTeuihateuihTe

  72. Connie says:

    Another day of mind screwing games and the more I put this trillion piece jigsaw together of another language….oh my gosh I should have never ever been put through any of what I got forced through violently abusivly and all because of my age and all because YOU ALL JUST f$”!?/ CAN Lawyers social workers and getting families involved on your side all against just me because I had NOONE you scandalous evil monsters u saw me coming a me not knowing any of what was going on I didn’t know nothing except you all lying to me making out you were on my side all over a spiteful phone call and because I tried standing up for my rights to me and both my babies and you all didn’t like that aye Lucia stower and the rest of you well I got news for you keep your eyes open at night and my useless lawyers who were not on my side due to my evidence you kept hidden and went with there lawyers and fucking money hope it was worth it when you think I would just be another one who would what kill myself over it and you would all get away with this?????? No No No because I knew all along I did NOTHING WRONG and you should of never taken my home and my babies and left me homeless with nothing when I did nothing wrong you all screwed me over real good and the one thing I would do different back then is not use you as lawyers which Melanie baker who is useless as well put me on to you to why I ripped your lying papers up and caught you’d having cups of tea with who you were meant to be against and on my side and requesting my files with your emails having good ol conversations with who you were meant to be against and on my side fuck sakes how young and dumb I was to think oh yep my lawyers are fighting for me this prices which never should of been yep they’re sorting it and before I know it all this unnecessary court stuff will be all gone…..hundred years later still going thanks everyone

  73. Connie says:

    By the way now I know what the word cross examination means and trial…thats for people who have been convicted of a crime and arrested screw your system and the poor families who have lost someone to that all for nothing but that’s OK I must of put this story of injustice out there a trillion times and oh no don’t all jump up at once for the “best interest of the children” no no no don’t let’s just wait til it’s too late again and watch the statistics rise to why the rates of harm out there goes but you all know everything. Don’t come to me and fix nothing as quick as you all are to break it if u had a phone call that you would ACT upon

  74. Connie says:

    And then u had the cheek to say after putting me at a dead end and with everytging against me from day one that I was oblivious to any of what I was walking into on my own with hundreds of yous all throwing papers and court dates at me when my lawyers didn’t even do there job from day one to say that my babies were now settled where they were that there’s no hope for me anymore far out I never had any hope from the beginning anyway with you all lying to the judge feeding the judge lyes hiding vital evidence there was nothing or no-one on my side ever and you’d hide the vital evidence that should of never separated me from my babies and the useless information you would fucking use at me had nothing to do with where this fucking story started from from day one aye Colleen Boyer and as for you Lucia and lawyers and other hundreds of social workers that knew NOTHInG that Colleen was orchestrating funny how after so ling your lies comes out thanks to me not giving up and you all will no longer be a night mare but a dream come true when I slam this nasty truth all over your ugly faces take that!!!!!!

  75. DJ Ward says:

    I myself have been very lucky not to have had these CYFS people in my life.
    It’s petty clear I should be thankful.
    Like any parasite if they find a way into your home it often requires drastic measures to get rid of them.
    How solid, undeniable is your evidence of wrongdoing.
    Record everything, including secretly if needed.
    Complian about these people to the relevant authorities.

  76. hornet says:

    Adolf Hitler

    “The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.”

    ― Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf – A NAZI.

    And today we have the ACT Party stating they want the right to take children from POOR people, good people sent into poverty by the very government charged with protecting them, charged with creating opportunity and prosperity, not as we have seen over the last NINE ( 9 ) Years – where all work and opportunity has been sent offshore under the false pretext of FREE TRADE – Anatoly Golytsyn warned us all – the WEST would have COMMUNISM forced on it under the GUISE of FREE TRADE.

    Vulnerable children BILL – will create more VULNERABLE CHILDREN in NZ, as children are forcibly removed from their parents. This is Colonisation of NZ all over again – the is GAZA all over again.

    Any parent standing up for the most basic of human rights – or any parent opposing government crime – will have their children taken from them as punishment – this is exactly what these psychopaths are preparing for in NZ.

    Everyone who posts on here, has a horror story as to how the NZ Government has DELIBERATELY DEPRIVED good FATHERS of time with their KIDS – that directly creates more VULNERABLE CHILDREN for the state to PREY UPON.

    That is the agenda in play again, and that is what everyone needs to talk about.

    Under “TOLLEY” – my family were illegally surveilled by the MINISTRY of SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT NAZI Department, all because I made complaints about breaches of RIGHTS TO DUE PROCESS by Government departments.
    What provisions are in this New BILL to prevent Government from using and abusing these powers to silence Dissent, or opposition to Government crimes?

  77. JohnPotter says:

    It’s a great quote hornet, but it doesn’t appear in Mein Kampf, and it wasn’t made by Hitler.

    Since 1990, there has been a convention regarding discussions on the internet, that if the only way you can win a debate is by calling your opponent a Nazi, then you automatically loose. This is known as Godwins Law.

  78. hornet says:

    thanks john for the correction, the term “NAZI” is concerning to me, given that the individual who attempted to entrap me on firearms charges was talking about looking forward to the ETHNIC CLEANSING of Maori in the coming planned invasion of NZ for its resources, and as I recall ETHNIC CLEANSING was a NAZI TERM.

    Ethnic Cleansing and or genocide should be abhorrent to everyone.

    I have also read Albert SPEER – the book by one of Hitlers henchmen, and in it after the Nuremberg trials – SPEER details his concern for the future of humanity, in particular if we allow governments to use technology against citizens to such an extent that we see human rights disappearing. SPEER predicted the biggest battle in the future for humanity was the fight for Human Rights.

    Hitler TERRORISED the world with TECHNOLOGY and as we are all witnessing today, TECHNOLOGY is currently being used for EVIL and not for GOOD of Human kind.

    What ever LABEL we place on these behaviours the concern is still the same – these tactics and methods should NEVER be tolerated.

    Racism, Ethnic cleansing, preying on vulnerable people, created by bullies and psychopaths, human rights abuses are all systemic problems we all need to be concerned about. My experience tells me we still have a long way to go to resolve these concerns in NZ, especially when there still appears to be a very racist underbelly which is never talked about, and one that is now using its past colonisation tactics as previously used on indigenous people – and expanding these same tactics of control onto all races of humans.

  79. Downunder says:

    When you go to the isolation camp, you’re alone, in a secret place. The smell, you’re not sure … is it gas … or the collective stench of cockroaches. The shock treatment, the processing, even though you survive, as you walk out the door you’re not aware that other men died from the scene.

    You’ve been cleansed from her life, and the children’s by default, they now live in a different camp, on the other of the wall, the other side of the law.

    You go back, you fight, others take flight, but either way, when you walk the narrow streets of shame, the scrubby back streets of the lost and lame, with its Secret Surveillance, its State Sleuths, you’re labelled, excluded, confined to an underworld, a dark place in the underbelly of society, below that of the criminal, the wastrel, where Surreptitious Serrasalmus, feed quietly in the wasteland of the unclean and the unwanted.

    Yes, it is best not to make historical comparisons, other people might miss the point, not make the connection to the obvious. Yes, better just to tell it like it is, and the occasional sympathizer might suffer their guilt with a little help, but only if they’re not seen.

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