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   They can shove their Hell pizza up their ******** !!! This country is a cess pit of child abuse and debauchery and what else would I expect living as a mere helot under the hellenistic conditions in a hellish regime lead by a greasy ogress called Hellen Klark !!

   Comment by dad4justice — Fri 27th July 2007 @ 10:50 am

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   is there a link to read this??

   Comment by starr — Fri 27th July 2007 @ 12:44 pm

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   What magazine?

   Comment by Maxx — Sat 28th July 2007 @ 8:08 am

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   Bevan,

   You haven’t put up a link. Your comments are bordering on intolerant of others practices within justifiable limitations in a free and democratic society. In this dialogue you complain about the private sector where marketing devolved can work into the extremes of societal wellbeing, in this case flouting religious security and making a mockery of such protections in front of our sons and daughters. They; our sons and daughters, are left to compete against such expensive campaigns, either balanced against adversity for their mothers or fathers counsel, their own functions by choice, or their communities affect to disaffect the harm that could be done by negatively working on human security as it has evolved – and especially at youth.

   We know already that the church are not prepared to step up to protect fatherhood. We already know that the church have abandoned my argument that proves this pursuant extreme feminist agenda has faulted its purpose for Margaret Wilson’s mistake (still waiting on Scrap) and would leave those individual children deliberately raised without the influence of and developmental access to their biological father, on their own, fending for themselves – or to the mercy of God as some may argue.

   You haven’t provided a link to the story. What line – who draws it and what is the fathers’ response to this line that you suggest exists?

   Comment by Benjamin Easton — Mon 30th July 2007 @ 10:16 am

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   The story can be found here.
   Hells Pizza has lauched a magazine that many may find rather childish.

   Now I haven’t read the magazine or seen it. However any magazine that has a scantily clad Nicky Watson on it is on the way to getting a tick of approval from me!!

   Apparently there are irreverent jokes about Steve Irwin which will obviously not amuse some people.
   It is also reported that there is a picture of a pizza in a condom with the caption “the pizza for meat lovers”. Obviously this is adult humour so I wouldn’t recommend going to Hell’s Pizza and getting this as bed time story material.

   Going from the press reports only – I don’t see what the problem is. Well OK as I have said I realise some will find it ofensive and it shouldn’t be in the child reading section of the public library. So I guess it isn’t that I don’t see the problem. It is more than I can’t relate to the objections.
   Please explain to me what is the big deal. Why bocott this excellent product?
   As far as I know it’s a fine magazine – if a little childish. If I ever get myself a copy I’ll have a read and let you know. However going from what has been reported, there doesn’t seem to be anything here a teenager shouldn’t read and younger children probably wouldn’t want to read it anyway.

   Comment by Dave — Thu 9th August 2007 @ 8:15 pm

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   Do you think we should ask schools to send pizza home with their homework?

   Comment by Bevan Berg — Thu 9th August 2007 @ 9:35 pm

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   I consider myself to have a dry sense of humour but you lost me.
   Schools, homework?
   I thought we were talking about Hell’s pizza magazine.

   Comment by Dave — Thu 9th August 2007 @ 10:26 pm

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   It is not about sense of humour Dave. When you go to a pizza shop you expect a quality of food production that doesn’t fill your children’s stomach with rubbish. When you go to a school you expect a quality of education that doesn’t fill your children’s head with rubbish. What will be in this magazine next time? Who is going to be the next – McMagazine.

   Comment by Bevan Berg — Fri 10th August 2007 @ 8:55 am

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   I misquoted the Hell’s Pizza ad about Russell Crow. I didn’t see that he was holding a piece of pizza in one hand and a sword in the other saying “on my word unleash hell”. He’s dressed up in his Gladiator clothes.

   For those who enjoy sport (?) they may be aware that Russell Crow has bought the NRL (OZ – National Rugby League) team nick named the “Rabbitohs”. Others call this team the bunnies. It has been many years soince they have made the top 8 p[ositions in the league and often enough get the prize of the wooden spoon (last). This year they are doing better, although I’m not so sure if these latest marketing ploys are going to do it for them (although “those who live the longest see the most” as my dad often enough would say).

   Suprisingly all around this advert the wind shields that hold (say) 2 x 1.2 meter colour posters are warm and cuddly pictures on bunnies. I haven’t looked to see what they are selling.

   And off to his right and accross the road from this bloke with the Hell’s Pizza and authority to unleash the hordes, is another bigger poster saying “Wake up and smell the roses”. (This is Jim Bailey’s quote as he resigned from the menz. movement. org /fatherscoalition. and I am not implying the events are connected).

   So we have this tough guy ready to bring Hell surrounded with lots of warm and fuzzy. Yet, Russell Crow’s first move was to ditch the cheer leaders. No girls in tight outfits dancing provocatively for the blokes to oggle. And then there was this last weekend. Russell took all the boys on a special traning session which turned out to be a love in. He told them he loved them. He told them that they needed to embrace love. I love you he said… and then asked them individually to tell the other guys what they loved about eachother.

   Now if there was ever a joke about confusion of sexuality its got to be in there somewhere. If anyone wants to laugh out loud surely its going to have some connection to bunnies and cocs.

   For my thinking, this is all just a gauge on where we are in society. Admittedly RC would have been trying to get across a message of greater responsibility to family, and for men to get closer to those necessities instead of rejecting them outright for male power – brutal and exciting as it is necessary for men in sport or possibly in war to exercise and unfortunately as it can be manifest as vicious and unruly in the home or on the street: but please Russel give it a break bro. Don’t patronise us like we’re a bunch of mindless pizza heads.

   Comment by Benjamin Easton — Fri 10th August 2007 @ 10:52 am

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    Bevan – My understanding of your point is: child exposure to Hell’s Pizza Magazine is a kind of education [learning experience] that fills their heads with rubbish.

    As I said, I haven’t read this magazine so perhaps you are right. Based on the reports, I certainly wouldn’t recommend it as child reading material.

    My point is this:
    (a) Such things exist in the world and [based on the reports] there doesn’t appear to be anything in here that I wouldn’t want a teenager to know exists.
    (b) Children learn from their parents what an appropriate response to such things is. I would want the child to see my reaction to things in the magazine. Depending on the age of the child, he/she will most likley adopt some or all of my view of such things.
    (c) Therefore I am not particularly concerned about this magazine.
    (d) I don’t send my child [or anyone else’s child] to open the front door and give some stanger money while I am not present. That is my personal idea of being a responsible parent. However the lady in the story seems to think it is fine to let her child to do this and it is terribly irresponsible to then give said child a magazine.

    I guess I don’t agree with her style of preparing children for the real world. Then again, in New Zealand personal responsibility is not actually part of the real world. So perhaps on reflection, I am a silly old conservative, idealist and this woman is 100% right on.

    Yes I think I must learn to point my finger at everyone else first if I am to live in contemporary New Zealand.

    I guess I must be a real slow learner. I blame the education system. (See I am getting the hang of it slowly).

    Comment by Dave — Fri 10th August 2007 @ 3:00 pm

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