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1. 

   Dear Friends,

   Listen on-line to Parliament Debate Section 59 Bill at:

   http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/live/parliament

   They are debating something else just now, but will go through until 6pm. They reconvene at 7:30 and go through to 10pm.

   Regards,

   Craig Smith
   National Director
   Family Integrity
   PO Box 9064
   Palmerston North
   New Zealand
   Ph: (06) 357-4399
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   Our Home….Our Castle

   Comment by JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 4:10 pm

2. 

   I use smack ; lock me up

   Comment by keith — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 5:12 pm

3. 

   Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that today, the very day that the bill to outlaw smacking is passed, a cold front with accompanying heavy rain, gale-force wind, power cuts, thunder and lightening is sweeping over the country.

   Comment by Al D Rado — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 5:57 pm

4. 

   Sue Bradford smacks of parental violence

   Comment by Al D Rado — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 5:58 pm

5. 

   I’m a whingeing male backlash extremist. Lock me up!

   Comment by Simon Offshawe — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 7:09 pm

6. 

   Why don’t you go find a HIV boyfriend.

   Comment by Bevan Berg — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 7:32 pm

7. 

   See: She Should Smack Sue Should’nt She.
   Sue Smack Sue Silly.
   Sue Sometimes Smacking Suits.

   Comment by Dave llewell — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 8:37 pm

8. 

   That’s a head full of sueshe

   Comment by Bevan Berg — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 8:43 pm

9. 

   Sue smack me!

   Comment by Al D Rado — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 9:58 pm

10. 

    “rebel without a cause” crossed out,
    with “rebel cause of Bradford” below.

    Comment by xsryder — Wed 14th March 2007 @ 10:05 pm

11. 

    Feminist socialism at it’s finest. Sadly, it would appear the bill will be passed. Never make the mistake of thinking NZ is a democracy. Haven’t they done well so far in replacing the family with the state; a pity that the social reform policies so far have only escalated youth crime rates to startling levels.

    The current situation is frighteningly similar to Germany 1920-1937 (see how the govt controlled the population by controlling the children). That’s just a recent example – the effects of socialist govts on population are well documented throughout history.

    Australia has never looked more attractive – I want my children to grow up in an environment where the family counts for something, and morals and respect are more than just words in a dictionary.

    Comment by Gordon — Thu 15th March 2007 @ 12:10 am

12. 

    Spare the rod
    Spoil the KID
    ““““““““““““““`

    Sign the CIR and get signatures
    Go http://www.handsonequalparent.org.nz/87741.html

    Onward – Jim

    Comment by JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent — Thu 15th March 2007 @ 7:20 am

13. 

    Subject: NZ – Well done – MP – NZ – Taito Phillip Field – E/Mangere – Manukau City – Labour

    Source;

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/3993030a10.html

    Field’s tactics delay anti-smacking bill

    By MARTIN KAY – The Press | Thursday, 15 March 2007

    Oponnents of a bill banning physical punishment of children have delayed its passage until May, increasing the pressure on MPs whose support could be wavering.

    The bill was to have passed its clause-by-clause committee stages last night, but a filibuster charge led by 50 amendments proposed by former Labour MP Phillip Field mean it will not be completed until March 28.

    The earliest Green Party MP Sue Bradford’s bill can now have its third reading is May 2, although that could be pushed back further if there are any changes to the parliamentary programme.

    The bill is still certain to pass as Labour and the Maori Party are backing it, but their MPs will come under immense pressure to change their minds before the third reading.

    It is unlikely any Labour MP will break ranks, but some are understood to be uncomfortable with the bill becoming law. Many will feel the heat in their electorates and can expect to be bombarded by an email campaign urging them to vote it down. The delay also gives time for a petition opposing it to gather momentum.

    Bradford was philosophical about the delay and said she did not think the intervening period, which includes a three-week parliamentary recess, would endanger the bill’s progress.

    “I never expected that it would get through (its committee stages). I just have to accept the parliamentary process,” she said.

    In classic delaying tactics, Field proposed 50 alternative dates to the bill taking effect once it received the royal assent, saying it should not be “rammed through” and enforced immediately afterwards.

    He warned the bill would have a “huge impact” on the Pacific Island and Maori communities, and the delay was needed to allow time for reconsideration.

    National also dragged out the debate, delaying arguments on the bill’s cumbersome title — The Crimes (Abolition of Force as a justification for Child Discipline) Amendment Bill — for an hour.

    In a bid to speed up proceedings, the Greens and Labour declined to take allotted speaking spaces.

    Shadow Leader of the House Gerry Brownlee said the delaying tactics were due to a fundamental disagreement with the bill, rather than any hope Labour MPs would break.

    “We think it’s a very bad bill and we’ve got no intention of seeing it raced through Parliament,” he said.
    Prime Minister Helen Clark conceded yesterday that not all Labour MPs agreed with the decision to back the bill, but that was normal with any legislation, and she continued to defend treating it as a party rather than a conscience vote.

    “I can’t recall a conscience vote on this. I recall being in government in the 1980s when we legislated to take corporal punishment out of schools. To the best of my recollection, that was not a conscience issue.”

    Onward in Coalition — Jim Bailey — JimBWarrior

    Founder – http://www.HandsOnEqualParent.org.nz
    And – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HandsOnEqualParent-News

    Comment by JimBWarrior - HandsOnEqualParent — Thu 15th March 2007 @ 8:32 am

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    Reasonable force is Reasonable. Yeah right.

    Is someone actually making teeshirts? The guy who owns this blog, http://johnthebaptist.blogspot.com is at the moment screen-printing some tee-shirts for a holiday program this holidays. Get in touch with him if you need someone to make the tee-shirts, aye.

    
    Kiwis want to keep Section 59
    This website helps you to email the MPs, and also has updates on the Section 59 debate.

    Cheers.

    Comment by Andy Moore — Thu 15th March 2007 @ 10:25 am

15. 

    What have all the men been doing for the last 30 years other than watching cricket and thugby?
    What has happened to men in this country? TV1 last night reported that one quarter of men in Auckland shave their legs. That answers part of it for me

    Comment by Micheal — Thu 15th March 2007 @ 11:42 am

16. 

    Helens whipping bans whipping

    Comment by B B — Thu 15th March 2007 @ 3:52 pm

17. 

    Helens whip around for the state family.

    Comment by Bevan Berg — Thu 15th March 2007 @ 5:03 pm

18. 

    Thanks to Bradford and the Greens, mum & dad can’t discipline me, I can get pissed at 18, and soon I’ll be able to smoke weed legally.
    Sue is da bomb!

    Comment by xsryder — Thu 15th March 2007 @ 11:10 pm

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    Punish naughty children: Bring smacking back to the House of Representatives!

    Comment by Sparx — Fri 16th March 2007 @ 4:38 pm

20. 

    Bevan,

    An excellent concept. Looking forward to seeing some of these start appearing in public.

    And, go Philip Taito Field! You and the National lad are the only voices of sanity in this queer wilderness of fascism.

    Comment by Ethos — Fri 16th March 2007 @ 4:40 pm

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