So, you ask, “Where do my child support payments go?”
It’s no mistery that the $$ from late payment penalties do not go to custodial parant, but, where does it go?
This is an enlightening article…
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These payments along with paymentswhere the custodial parent is on DPB go to a
slush fund called “The Consolidated Fund”
Am I surprised Peter Hughes (Head of MSD) tops the list.
Comment by Alastair — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 9:26 am
no surprise!
Comment by Scott — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 10:05 am
I think it’s sad that we talk so much about what is happening to us but I’m not seeing a lot done about it… but there were about 35 protestors trying to save the snifters, jafas and sparkles!
Comment by Tigerseye — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 11:07 am
Take heart Tigerseye,
Snifter, Jafas & sparkle protestors will die sugary deaths.
Those of us heart have been smoked like bacon or biltong by the FC processes and we hang around. Few of us have an ounze of sugar left but plenty of tanin, tar and formaldhyde. We just need to find ways of working together successfully. The MENZ movement is at least 35 strong but we pull in many directions.
Comment by Allan Harvey — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 11:18 am
Maybe Tigerseye you are looking in the wrong place or not hearing what is being said.
Regards
Scrap
P.S. Also support the SLA – Long live snifters.
Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 11:24 am
I’m listening intently Scrap. I guess my point is that if 35 people can make the news with regards to sweets then perhaps the problems with the CSA has been approched in the wrong way.
Maybe, as you say, I have been looking in the wrong places. Maybe there hasn’t been enough media focus to bring this problem out in to the open. Maybe too many people are taking a holistic approach which is confusing the issues – a more direct, step by step, problem by problem stratagy is required.
From the outside the mens movement appears to be in a constant state of dissaray and the political pyramid is being paid very well to keep it that way. Devide, conquer and weaken the movement – confuse and disorientate the mass and cover it up with manure, sit back and wait for the financial roses to bloom.
Problem – reaction – solution = the ultimate goal of the government to control the chaos.
It’s just my opinion… maybe I’m wrong
Comment by Tigerseye — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 11:54 am
well said allan, not an ounce of vulgarity, a sweet change to the air on here.. well done, (chuckles)..
Comment by Colin of Nazareth — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 12:44 pm
Tigerseye,
I’m happy to meet sometime (preferably with Scrap as well) as we live in the Wellington area. It is a political change we want and Dunney needs targeted when the dust settles post election. The lobbying needs to start ASAP after 8 Novemeber.
I heard Peter Dunne’s Party President (Denise I’m a nobody) last night on talkback deflecting a couple of Child Support issues saying what great work Dunney has (not) done in the CS area.
Truth is he is the man who rejected his officals recomendations for positive changes and delayed anything happeniong till acter election tiome by refering to Families Commission for some “research”.
A time wasting sychophantic approach.
Comment by allan Harvey — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 1:08 pm
Thanks Allan,
I think that is a great idea and the earlier we start organising a stratgy the better prepared we will be on that day.
I’d be more than happy to host a meeting with you and Scrap at my place – what say you Scrap?
Comment by Tigerseye — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 1:47 pm
Why would you target Peter Dunne after the election, unless you have a job offer for him?
Comment by John Brett — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 3:08 pm
Mens movement in disarray?
If you leave [name deleted by moderator] out of it, I think that most people and most groups work well together, and give the same message to the media.
Comment by John Brett — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 3:11 pm
John, I’m not sure you read me correctly and I certainly don’t see many if any news reports about about movement. As we draw closer to the elections I hope to see more.
It needs to be in everybodies face – it’s not. To find anything out you need to dig. It doesn’t appear to be very important and the question is WHY?
This is purely observational
Comment by Tigerseye — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 3:32 pm
Target Dunne as he has positioned himself for Revenue in whatever is the next Govt. In his (wet) dreams he has 3-5 MPs to offer, ballance of power, bables galore to choose and he will prostitue his party to agree to anything Key (or Clark) wishes to become Treasurer.
Comment by allan Harvey — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 5:23 pm
Dear John,
This is a rather an unfair criticism of [name deleted by moderator].
Sure, he can be obstinate, to some, even unbending and obnoxious in portraying his viewpoint, however he has provided a great deal of exposure and frontline work, and will continue to do so irregardless of solidarity behind him.
I have no beef with any person who attempts to address the Systemic damage inflicted by the State guised under Social Engineering whatever method they choose to strike back.
Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Irene Morgan, Rosa Parks all were probably ridiculed or even chastised by their peers in wishing to institutionalise change, however they eventually had success.
Wouldn’t it be easier to lop off the head from the gorgon if we had a more tolerant approach to each others actions irrespective of how they conduct themselves.
The adage my enemies enemy is therefore my friend springs to mind.
Kindest Regards
Paul Catton
East Auckland Refuge for Men and Families
(09) 271 3020
Comment by Paul Catton — Fri 3rd October 2008 @ 5:31 pm
It’s not only the salary that the MPs get, it’s the expenses where they make the most CA$$$$$$$$H , travelling, living etc etc, and here’s us Dads paying CS, vote them out !
Comment by Perseus — Sun 5th October 2008 @ 9:40 am
Laurence J. Peter is reported to have said, “Bureaucracy defends the status quo long past the time when the quo has lost its status.”
Peter Senge (1999) “…collaboration is vital to sustain what we call profound or really deep change, because without it, organizations are just overwhelmed by the forces of the status quo.”
Dr. Horrible “And by the way, it’s not about making money, it’s about taking money. Destroying the status quo, because the status is not quo.”
Comment by Colin of Nazareth — Sun 5th October 2008 @ 4:23 pm
John Brett – I’ve deleted the name you mentioned in #11, not because I disagree with you, but because it does seem to me like a personal attack, and because the individual isn’t able to defend himself in this forum.
Comment by JohnP — Tue 7th October 2008 @ 9:20 am