Male teachers should have insurance benefit.
Male teachers should be give an extra benefit paid by the government. That is an insurance fund to pay the legal costs in any abuse allegation plus compensation for the stress and impact on their career.
I have no idea if the current case is valid or not. For all I know this guy may be a raving predator. On the other hand he may be innocent and facing a huge legal bill to defend himself. He says he was naive. Well frankly pretty much any male teacher would have to be naive to get into the profession. What would be the point of a career in teaching for a male? The risks far out weigh the rewards.
If a male teacher is accused by a student for an incident on school grounds, and there is no video/audio evidence to support the allegation, then I can’t see why the teacher can’t sue the school for exposing him to a dangerous working environment. Teachers of both sexes shouldn’t be placed in positions of vulnerability where a rapacious judicial system will destroy them on the word of a child.
Comment by rc — Mon 19th April 2010 @ 6:08 pm
There is an insurance scheme for teachers. It protects both male and female teachers. It is called NZEI for early childhood centres and primasry schools and PPTA for secondary schools. About 95% of teachers are members. Both organisations employ solicitors who are very experienced in these matters.
Comment by Kiwi Skier — Mon 19th April 2010 @ 11:03 pm
I wouldn’t be so stupid as to become a teacher!
Comment by Scott B — Wed 21st April 2010 @ 2:09 pm
That seems to assume that stupidity is a trait of teachers or that Scott B accepts a feminised teaching workforce.
The Jesuits have a saying that goes something like, “give me the child and I will return you the man”. Schooling was a large part of their approach to dveloping communities that found their ideas acceptable and in some circumstances the norm.
My own personal view is that unless Scott B and others show more respect for those of us who continue to work in education we might as well give up now.
What a stupid comment from Scott B. Yes the profession is overwhelmingly female in early childhood and about 60% female in secondary schools. Perhaps greater stupidity is that real men are not prepared to work in environments when things get a little tough.
I’m hanging in there, as did Jim Bagnall and many other of our notable father activists.
Comment by Kiwi Skier — Wed 21st April 2010 @ 3:46 pm
Scott is 100% correct for me, Jesuits did not have to contend with NZ’s stupid laws, maybe you should hang around with what you term the “real men” Allan
Comment by Kiwi in Thailand — Wed 21st April 2010 @ 3:55 pm
Keep hanging in Kiwi.
Teaching is a worthy profession and we meed more males teaching our young men.
My boy attends an all boys college – hes taught by men and woman,the men who teach him are certainly not stupid.
Probably if the pay wasn’t so low I suspect more men would be teaching.
Regards
Scrap
Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Wed 21st April 2010 @ 3:58 pm
So go tell all the men who have been wrongly accused that my point is stupid. See who they agree with. Go on, I dare you to.
Comment by Scott B — Wed 21st April 2010 @ 4:57 pm
So go tell all the men who have been wrongly accused that my point is stupid. See who they agree with. Go on, I dare you to.
I disagree with your view – I did not comment on the quality of your comment.
Regards
Scrap
Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Wed 21st April 2010 @ 5:50 pm
It wasn’t aimed at you.
Comment by Scott B — Wed 21st April 2010 @ 5:54 pm
I trained as a teacher several years ago.
I clearly recall one principal inviting me into his office for a one on one ‘chat’.
‘Shit!’ I thought, ‘I’m not even through training yet (I was on placement) and already I’m going to get canned for something I didn’t do’. He then completely took me by surprise by telling me he wanted me in his school once I was through my training. Looking back I see he was desperately in need of more male teachers (the school had 3 and about 25 female teachers). I made a half hearted comment along the lines of “I’ll think about it”. The semester continued and I went to another school for another placement in my training. In that school I had a supervising teacher who was in her 60s and I assumed would be ‘old school’ in her attitudes and not have been inculcated with feminist values. I couldn’t have been further from the truth.
The very day I arrived she placed a bright red miniature post office letter box on her desk. She then proceeded right in front of me to have all 25 of the kids sat at her feet and tell them she had put the letter box there for them. She explained that if they had any concerns or worries they could take a slip of paper from the pile of such she’d put next to the letterbox and they could write down their issue and ‘post’ it to her. That she would check the box each day to make sure they were OK.
With the Peter Ellis stitch up still in mind I made the decision then and there not to teach in NZ.
I could recount many more such instances during my teacher training which alerted me to the terribly unsafe misandric environment feminists have created for men within many parts of the NZ education system.
I think it’s a shallow insult to call those like myself wary of teaching in NZ stupid.
If there wasn’t a risk there wouldn’t be an insurance scheme, duh!
Comment by Skeptik — Wed 21st April 2010 @ 11:20 pm
It’s stories like this, and I have heard many, that made me state that I wouldn’t be stupid enough to become a teacher.
Comment by Scott B — Wed 21st April 2010 @ 11:38 pm
A female teacher raped a female student. She was only banned from teaching for 3 years. The teacher successfully appealed and got the ban reduced to 2 years.
Can you imagine what would have happened to a male teacher?
Comment by Dave — Fri 23rd April 2010 @ 5:41 pm
He’d still be in jail and would never be able to teach again nor would he be welcome in any community again either. If it was true that he had, then fair enough btw! But that is what should have happened to her!
Comment by Scott B — Fri 23rd April 2010 @ 8:35 pm
I don’t just imagine what would happen tothe guy, I know what would happen – minimum of 7 years imprisonment, reduced to 6 or maybe 5 if he was very lucky and did a abuse prevention program (Plus 2 years follow up supervision with a probation officer) and he would NEVER EVER teach in nz again. Just another glaring example of the pussy pass that goes on in the ‘justice’ system of NZ.
Comment by Skeptik — Fri 23rd April 2010 @ 9:45 pm
Shantay,
Forgive my cynicism. Like many who post regularly here I’ve been burnt many times by feminists in NZ.
So I feel compelled to ask you (a stranger)some questions before deciding how to answer your question –
Why do you say this website is a good one?
Who exactly are you?
Why do you want to use comments from this website?
Comment by Skeptik — Tue 4th May 2010 @ 7:48 pm
Talking about burnt.
When I first came to NZ, I wore a red jumper to my sister-inlaw’s house and a guy tried to light me on fire.
Comment by julie — Tue 4th May 2010 @ 7:58 pm