Men are wallets
Men are viewed as wallets. Before marriage, during marriage and after marriage.
Governments see themselves as substitute men-wallets. This is illustrated by a new initiative exclusively for unemployed single women.
I think many men would be OK with this provided there was some reciprocal commitment. However that is not the reality. Men need to ask themselves more and more – what are the risks and what are the returns for them in marriage.
A Dutch newspaper reports the following:
The Frisian villages of Dongeradeel and Dantumadiel have come up with a novel way of cutting spending on welfare payments – encouraging jobless women to find a rich man, the Leeuwarder Courant reports on Tuesday.
The local social service departments are paying for the women to have a make-over in the hope they can hook up with a rich husband to support them, the paper says. If 70 women find a new husband, the council can save €400,000 on welfare payments.
The councils are putting €1,400 into each woman to have her hair done and get help with her image. They will also get their wardrobe updated and tips on social skills and presentation.
Once the transformation process has been completed, the women will be registered at a local marriage bureau Mens en Relatie in Oentsjerk, the paper says.
So far fewer than 10 women have signed up for the scheme, which is described as ‘unethical’ by locals. Taking part is completely voluntary, officials told the paper.
There is a so-called charity here in NZ that asks for money so women can buy clothes for job interviews! I kid you not! Not as bad as the above though!
Comment by Scott B — Wed 9th June 2010 @ 3:47 pm
I wonder if this crazed Dutch council will give single men a donation of 1400 pounds each so they can get training on how to avoid becoming the next victim of false allegations by Dutch women and how to be Men Going Their Own Way MGTOW?
Comment by Skeptik — Wed 9th June 2010 @ 8:30 pm
A wise friend once said to me rather than men being like wallets, men are in fact like urinal cakes – we get p****d on until we disappear.
Comment by Gerry — Wed 9th June 2010 @ 10:08 pm
Actually this is GOOD News- this initiative is SO Desperate that it brings ridicule and scorn on those promoting it, AND publicises the Marriage Strike!
I believe that the original anti-men feminists would not have been so stupid.
Comment by John Brett — Thu 10th June 2010 @ 5:57 am
Ohio – According to the Alliance Police Department’s report, Audrey Scott, 57, called emergency services for no reason a total of five times, advising dispatchers that she “needs a husband”.
When officers responded to Scott’s apartment to find out what was wrong, she stated, “I don’t know.”
Scott was sentenced to a $250 fine and 10 days in jail. 3 days already spent awaiting trial and 7 days suspended on condition of good behavior for one year.
Comment by Dave — Fri 11th June 2010 @ 4:20 pm
Can anyone tell me why would the limit for shared care of childsupport be 146 nights when working for familes is only 123 nights, it doesnt make any sense why one government agency has 2 different limits for the same thing
Comment by Craig — Thu 17th June 2010 @ 12:47 pm
Sense, get real. We work with legislation from politicians.
It is 146 because it is 40% of ther nights in a full year.
We used to be part of WINZ back in the days when I first started at Child Support so then we are two.
Besides the right hand here at IRD has no idea what the left hand does so why are you surprised.
Doohhh
Comment by Ms IRD Officer — Thu 17th June 2010 @ 1:58 pm
Short answer,
No.
Regards
Scrap
Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Thu 17th June 2010 @ 3:13 pm
Typical IRD never answer the question.
Regards
Scrap
Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Thu 17th June 2010 @ 3:15 pm
Excellent question Craig. Yet another example of how deeply flawed this system is. The entire thing revolves around fundamentally unsound ideology.
Comment by Dave — Fri 18th June 2010 @ 12:40 pm
MGTOW
Since leaving NZ, i have been looking for a group/philosophy that i think will be effective in righting what happened to me and MANY MANY other men.
Thanks to Skeptik, i looked at MGTOW, i was very surprised that it seems to have the same goals and attitudes as me. Big government will always be able to suppress any dissent, use moles to infiltrate any organisation that threatens it and it’s finances. It controls half the economy for god’s sake.
God knows how men in our position must have felt BEFORE the internet ! The internet has been a god’s send for the men’s movement, of course it was created, like most things , by men.
Current websites are useful as support mechanisms and soundboxes, but are , at the end of the day, NEVER GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING !
It seems to me that men MUST learn to be personally stronger, especially emotionally. Go your own way, yes !
The number of men who have experienced what we have experienced, is growing every day, unfortuneately !
The general philosophy of MGTOW is to have the personal male independent attributes, but also political goals such as reducing big government etc. But i am mainly attracted because it sums up exactly what i feel.
How can a government TREAT it’s own citizens with such disdain and injustice ? It has been VERY cathartic to have been on MENZ, but i would also like to advise men NOT to trust local “Fathers’ group reps”, and so called mens group “leaders”.
So this is my last post here, one day things will change, but maybe NOT in our lifetime, NZ will FOLLOW the rest of the anglosphere world in stopping the war against men. It may be due to a world war, a big depression, or a mass marriage strike, BUT 1 DAY IT WILL CHANGE !
Here in England the BBC seems to be having many pro-father documentaries at the moment, this all positive, but there are still many many feminists in the top management at the BBC.
Men have incredible emotional and financial turmoil in their lives due to the HUGE injustices of the family court. Some may never get over it, but personally it has made me stronger , albeit very bitter about the govenrment. I will never AGAIN let a woman spoil my life. You must read about women, there are many books about bad women and their motives now.
I would encourage other Kiwi blokes to read about MGTOW, and if it fits in their modus operandii, join us !
GoodBye from Martin
Comment by martin swash — Mon 5th July 2010 @ 4:31 pm
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/124125670/russian-billionaire-investing-in-kiwibuild-to-help-housing-crisis
There is lots of people like this in the world.
Who can live in luxury for the rest of there lives.
And still couldn’t spend it all.
Countless others who can fund NGOs
This isn’t charity however, it’s business.
So intent is to make profit.
And I’m sure his partners will do well.
All that’s fine obviously, and is capitalism.
Don’t be fooled by, I am helping.
This is what you need.
Yes I will charge a little more.
So I make profit, and profit is good.
You actually don’t need to be charitable, to be charitable.
I will give you some of my billions, as temporary shares.
Obviously you need help, building this thing.
It creates income, and you can return my charity, using its profit.
Then the billionaire, who made no money.
Can be charitable again.
And again.
Still rich, but magically his money did many things.
Obviously some charity burns money, or a direct asset donation.
Emergency food, medicines, or community asset.
And that is unavoidable.
But some of those things, occur because the other version of charity, not happening.
Hey 3rd world country.
Building that, could really help you.
As long as you promise to pay us back, from profits.
We have some bored billionaires, wanting to do good things.
Your country can own all of it, eventually.
Wow that road helps you.
Look you have renewable electricity, and distribution network.
Water infrastructure, and electric trains.
Another version of charity with money, is Elon Musk.
Offering rewards for solutions.
Or investing in world changing things.
Risking just burning money.
Similar to the person in the article.
As Elon Musk makes money, from those things.
One is just business, and the resultant gone with time.
One put a car in space, priceless as museum piece.
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