One law for all – except Peter Dunne
Those of you who are forced to pay child tax will know the mantra of the tax police, “you have to pay … it’s the law.” I am sure many of you are aware of the harsh measures Mr Dunne’s tax police use to insure you comply with the law.
Today saw NZ First walk out of Parliament over Dunne’s flouting of the legal requirement to have 500 eligible members.
If you pay child tax, you must comply to the law. If your the Minister of Revenue you don’t have to comply with the law . That is hypocrisy at its best.
As Winston Peters put it : “What you’ve got is a Speaker saying I’ll give this man six weeks… to comply or otherwise. That is simply third world banana republic type of decision making and we won’t accept it.”
One law for everyone – except Peter Dunne.
Yeah but it’s no problem because our child tax father enslavement system with crippling penalties raises more than enough for the public coffers to pay him the $100,000 per year for party business whether he’s legally entitled to it or not, so stop complaining!
Comment by Man X Norton — Thu 6th June 2013 @ 9:34 pm
“One law for everyone – except Peter Dunne.”.. isn’t that the case always.. to think NZ has such arrogant scrupulous people representing the public.. its becoming a corporate nw instead of a democratic gorvenment. democratic voting is becoming a farce..
Comment by kiranjiharr — Fri 7th June 2013 @ 12:15 pm
Maybe not. Someone seems to have found the key to Mr Dunne’s accountability.
Comment by Allan Harvey — Fri 7th June 2013 @ 4:03 pm
By bye Dunnothing !
Comment by golfa — Fri 7th June 2013 @ 4:07 pm
Thanks for nothing mr dunne nothing!
Comment by Scott B — Fri 7th June 2013 @ 5:02 pm
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8769623/Peter-Dunne-resigns-in-spy-leak-fallout
Comment by kiranjiharr — Fri 7th June 2013 @ 6:30 pm
Well looks like Dunne could be ‘one of us’ in the near future,
‘Asked about the nature of the relationship between Dunne and Vance, Key said Dunne had assured him it was a thoroughly professional one’. -yeah right!
Any one know if he has younger kids which means years of child support? I’d laugh so hard if that all happened to him. Call it justice or karma….
Comment by Too Tired — Fri 7th June 2013 @ 10:12 pm
dunn nothing finally dunn something!!!
Comment by roo — Sat 8th June 2013 @ 7:34 am
Dunne is down the dunnie!
Comment by OMG you're &*^%$%& — Sat 8th June 2013 @ 7:43 am
These are times of great celebration. The big, bad glitch is (all-but) gone. Key, for the only time in his whole political life, dunne good. Could’ve dunne better by getting rid of the clown altogether of course, but I’m sure that will follow.
Comment by duggiewuggie — Sat 8th June 2013 @ 10:03 am
And if he goes, maybe earky electioon? Please some people? Definitely not others!
Comment by Gwahir — Sat 8th June 2013 @ 9:05 pm
We were over Dunne a long time ago and now he’s overDunne it himself.
In the meantime ask Bill English when the child support calculator is going to ready, he’s the interim revenue minister until they find another sucker.
Not that governments will need to worry about the barrage of complaints to MP’s for much longer. They will simply tell men to give your details to your paymaster (they know how to use the calculator) and let them sort it out for you.
IRD will only need a support team for wage offices and problem solved.
Larger companies will be able to afford the additional cost but small to medium businesses will suffer the cost factor of gaining expertise in handling child support issues through the pay office.
I am wondering if this will cause a negative employment stereotype for separated men and force more of them offshore.
Comment by Down Under — Sun 9th June 2013 @ 11:35 am
Maybe ahead of my time, I have consulted the with of Endor and believe he will shist to the most distant and darkest corner of parliament, cease making statements, and retire at the next election (Keeping his Superannuation of course). He will vote just as his leaders tell him to!
Early in 2015 he will be appointed high commissioner to Suwwarro Atoll (In the Cook Islands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suwarrow) or some such cenre of trade!
Comment by Gwahir — Sun 9th June 2013 @ 11:52 am
Ironically, Dunne’s actions leading to his current partial demise were a rare example of him doing something for the public good. But I feel little sympathy for him because he is responsible for ensuring the child tax system goes on for many years yet exploiting and impoverishing fathers and damaging father-child relationships.
Comment by Man X Norton — Sun 9th June 2013 @ 2:07 pm
The public good? Sounds more like his dick was taking to him about Andrea Vance.
Comment by Down Under — Sun 9th June 2013 @ 2:24 pm
Can’t waste a press release. This was obviously written before Dunne opened his mouth to change feet.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8772896/Single-parents-owe-IRD-11-5m
Comment by Down Under — Sun 9th June 2013 @ 4:47 pm
Yes, I’m not suggesting Dunne was motivated by contributing to the public good, but releasing information about illegal spying by government on citizens nevertheless may be seen as doing so.
Comment by Man X Norton — Mon 10th June 2013 @ 10:17 pm
I note that Dunne was quoted on Radio NZ this morning as complaining that he was being ‘penalized for being honest’. He was said to have claimed that if his party had simpy signed the statutory form dishonestly affirming that they still had 500 members then nobody would be any the wiser and the party would not lose the $185,000 or so it received for being a party in government (not including his salary and perks).
Well Mr Dunne, your revenue law requires ditched fathers to declare their income honestly and your revenue goons will most definitely punish every one of those fathers for their honesty by seizing a minimum of about 30% of their after-tax earnings in order to fund NZ’s largest family wrecking and child abusing project, the DPB, and (directly or indirectly) to funnel the father’s finances through his children’s mother so the father’s contribution and sacrifice can be hidden from his children who can be left or led to believe the mother is the only provider, and indeed to believe the impoverished father is useless or stingy towards them.
Dunne also complains that the Electoral Commission should be flexible and make an exception for his party, firstly by letting the party continue to be registered and continue to receive its parliamentary money despite not having the required number of members, and now by letting the party maintain its registration on the basis of unsigned internet membership rather than what the law states as the requirement.
Well Mr Dunne, you have been the leader of NZ’s revenue goons whom you have never allowed to show any flexibility to be fair or rational in its seizing of money from ditched fathers. You have spent many years sitting on an unfair so-called ‘child support’ system of male exploitation, changing it only in the direction of more unfairness for example by arresting fathers at borders and seizing money from their bank accounts. Finally you have then ‘reformed’ the so-called ‘child support’ system it so that it will be even more inflexible, unfair, irrational and abusive to children (through damaging their fathers and their relationships with their fathers), by automatically stealing men’s earnings at source and increasing the overall amount stolen from enslaved men.
Yeah right Dunne, keep complaining about bureaucratic inflexibility and unfairness. We all feel for you.
Comment by Ministry of Men's Affairs — Thu 20th June 2013 @ 9:10 am
The position of Revenue Minister being created to relieve the Finance Minister of child support Issues only needed some Wally to put his hand up and front the cause – and along came Dunne.
Over the ensuing period, the Revenue Department has grown increasingly dysfunctional not having to account for itself.
Dunne was a minister in charge of the 9% of the tax take required to fund this mess.
When is someone going to ask, what actually went on while Dunne was adjusting his bowtie?
Sure as hell wasn’t Seven-we’re not the Sharpest tools in shed on TV1 last night.
Comment by Down Under — Thu 20th June 2013 @ 11:02 am
Has anyone wondered why the POLITICIANS are in such a furore over the BREACHES of PRIVACY concerning the way the GCSB leaks were investigated – we have a journalist and MPs phone records investigated…….illegally it would appear. And the nation comes to a standstill while this is being reviewed…….WHY????
PROTECTING “PRIVACY” is such a big deal to many of the fleas we have as MP’s because without it, they cannot function – you see if it was LEGAL to tape a conversation or actually get to the bottom of issues and hold people accountable – think of how many politicians would be caught out – lying and cheating the public….and who would actually be held to account…..now there would be a good thing…….
You see they are defending PRIVACY rights, because their very existence requires it…….NO Privacy, NO getting away with corruption and deceit…
But other rights, those equally as important as PRIVACY – those the public hold dear, are not so important to protect – the right to parent, the right to see your children, the right to retain property, right to free speech, right to freedom of movement etc………
Those rights are not important to politicians – because they can survive without them……
Comment by hornet — Wed 21st August 2013 @ 2:18 pm
One law for all?
It is unfair to just criticize just one person. MR Dunne.
Yes someone that is blatanly responsible for the offending that occurs pertaining to the collecting child support; may also be any person that sits in parliament and does nothing, even when thier citizens have come to thier door broken and begging.
Slim and slimey majority?
How many MPs with the spotlight on, are exposed.
Is it just one person? involved in these crimes as definably as Mr Dunne.
Did they not all vote for it?
Is just Mr Dunne the person the spotlight goes onto?
Yes he betrayed us. But looking at them just serves them. Look at the issue and they inherently become irrelevent to it.
If a persons vote in parliament can be exposed as taking place after they had commited a crime that carries 2 years or more in prison. Does that make the supposed good deed of voting legitamate. Just for laws to be past into law with a slim and slimey majority?
For it all to be a far more complex problem that it looks.
One law for all?
Or is it that politicians cant actualy fix it. Does it actualy have those slim majoritys that sustains it, supports there idiological position, and manages government entitys with the power given to them by it.
What would happen the day after the election when all the female MPs are forced to paternity test on thier children, and equily what would happen if all the male MPs told us about the extras in thier lives. Or is it just Mr Dunne we look at pertaining to sexual behaviour and desires, and how its psycological and material drivers can make good men do bad things.
South Africa actualy got it right.
When dealing with an epidemic, a sickness that pervades all of society, treating victims, or targeting individual groups of offenders for vengance, only prolongs and shifts blame to effects not causes.
Honesty, and forgiveness are bedfellows.
Tommorow is the better day, yesterday just warns us of its pitfalls. Ones that should be avoided and those that we should fill in.
Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 3rd July 2014 @ 10:43 am
Can I please have someone create the title RACE AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
The debate of mens issues is being driven off topic due to the publics long subjection to ideology, driven by and using of ‘visible effects’ and shifting of blame.
This is not a race issue. Its a human rights issue pertaining to the actions of the crown against men.
Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 3rd July 2014 @ 11:02 am
@DJ WARD
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You will find all the information you need to be able to register as an author and create your own posts.
Comment by Downunder — Thu 3rd July 2014 @ 11:56 am