Murder? My Arse!
I would love to be a fly on the Jury wall (6 males 6 females) at the murder trial of Gable Tostee.
I always knew this guy was in for a tough time but never this tough. Every piece of gossip about Tostee has been wrong. Phil Vine from 3D reported that he plied Warriena Wright with alcohol but in fact footage on CCTV showed her picking up beers and Tostee paying for them. In her txt she tells him that if she is tanked up she is more likely to be “a freak between the sheets”. Evidence shows she was violent toward him throwing ornamental rocks at him and more. The neighbours say they could hear her screams yet she never requested anyone to call the police whilst she was out on the balcony. Facts show she was heavily intoxicated and out of control.
Now, here is this important issue…… whilst not written into law it would appear that men are responsible for women’s safety whilst on their property or in their company. Should Tostee have thrown her out on the street (he said she was too drunk to be out on the street alone) and she was raped or worse he would have been in the clear. The Judge is clearly pissed off that at least 1 juror is taking an emotional stance.
Even if found not guilty the punishment will be in the process. Huge stress and a legal bill in the 6 figures. NZ is not the only place where the Police prosecutors are political.
An interesting perspective that has a ring of truth about it.
Comment by Andrew McCarthy — Wed 19th October 2016 @ 6:57 pm
I agree. Tostee was the victim of a violent, emotionally disturbed female, then the victim of prosecutors seeking to hold a man responsible for a woman’s stupid actions. Tostee probably never in his wildest dreams expected that anyone would be stupid enough to try to make that impossible climb, something only specialist climbers with the right equipment, skills and sobriety would ever attempt. I don’t believe that Wright tried to climb down out of fear; Tostee wasn’t even on the balcony with her. It’s more likely she did it because of drunken indignation at being put outside.
One could reasonably accuse Tostee of putting a drunk person in a situation of risk. However, if he had put her out of his apartment entrance door, that would have involved great risk too. He probably believed that on the balcony she might settle down and there was nowhere she could go to place herself at risk.
What would you do if a guest was drunk, abusive and violent towards you and your home? A good response might be to call the police to have the guest taken away to some safe situation to sober up. However, Tostee will have known (as most men do) that if he had called police he would have been at high risk of being treated by them as the offender and them believing the woman’s false allegations over his account. This sexist treatment by police and Courts of domestic call-outs renders it unsafe for a man to call them, therefore rendering that option unsafe and not sensible for men when faced with violence from females. Similarly, if Tostee had tried to call a taxi and to get her into it to be taken home, her unruly behaviour was unlikely to be cooperative and the taxi driver or others were likely to call police. Tostee then had few options for dealing with the situation and for keeping himself and his possessions safe.
Comment by Man X Norton — Wed 19th October 2016 @ 11:02 pm
Not guilty!
Comment by WayneBurrows — Thu 20th October 2016 @ 5:39 pm
Gable Tostee has just this moment been found not guilty of murder and not guilty of manslaughter of Warriena Wright. Some might argue that this indicates that the system works. It doesn’t.
Gable Tostee is the victim of domestic violence. He took non-violent action to both protect himself, de-escalate the situation and yet not harm his violent attacker by locking his attacker out onto a balcony. The drunken perpetrator, Warriena Wright, then removed herself from the gene pool by climbing over the rail of the balcony in an attempt to reach the balcony below. A choice of action that was so stupid it was basically guaranteed to result in her death many stories below. Which to no-one’s surprise was the result.
The fact that Gable Tostee was the victim of repeated assaults with weapons from his attacker was never in question.
No one has suggested that Warriena Wright was so scared that she threw herself off the balcony. Just that she made a suicidally risky choice and that is somehow a man’s fault. Anyone who considers women to be adults would have refused to buy into that theory.
Warriena Wright and Gable Tostee spent the night drinking and having sex at his Gold Coast apartment after meeting on a dating app. So Warriena Wright had made a series of risky impulsive decisions before she decided to violently assault her victim and then drunkenly climb over a rail designed to discourage such actions. She didn’t stop for a few minutes and think. She climbed to her death moments after being locked out. No one was going to tell her what to do!
The fact that Gable placed a locked door between himself and his attacker to protect himself was never in question.
This is the sort of advice that is given to male victims of violence. Remove yourself form the area or if you can’t do that, remove the other person. Don’t retaliate. That is what he did. It’s not as if it is safe for a male victim of domestic violence to call the police to get her removed. If Tostee had done that, we all know that he would have been arrested and a lot worse. So he did the only thing he could to get a safe outcome for everyone.
She then decided to take gross risks with her life, which she has the freedom to do. She did that either because because she was so drunk, angry, stubborn and self entitled that she refused to calm herself down and be an adult or she just thought she would never have to address the consequences of her actions. Perhaps both.
The issue was simply because the ruling ideology states that male = bad, all powerful, abuser, and female = helpless, never responsible for herself victim.
Tostee should have been praised for his actions. And even though Warriena Wright was a drunken, domestic absuer, who should have been given jail time and perhaps deported, she would be alive today, if she at least had the slightest bit of self control to calm herself down and let herself sober up a fraction.
The Police should have determined there was no case to answer. There was certainly never the slightest evidence of murder that I have been made aware of. No doubt the political pressure to pursue at least a manslaughter charge, prevents the police from treating males equally under the law. Since when did locking someone one to balcony, in any circumstances, imply that the person should have reasonably expected a death to result? When it did go to court, it should have been thrown out as lacking merit and evidence.
That is not the world men live in.
Tostee wasn’t praised he was demonised in the media on both sides of the Tasman for months. He was put through a full trial in one of the highest profile cases I can remember. Then after all that, the jury took 4 days to finally get a unanimous verdict. Because the man = bad perpetrator, woman = good victim ideology.
The toll on Tostee must have been horrendous. He is not only the victim of domestic violence but he has been victimsed again by the system. The public are somehow supposed to be reassured because his life wasn’t totally ruined by being jailed.
Personally, I’m not reassured at all.
One news outlet has already published a character assassination of Tostee, minutes after he walked free.
Oh but don’t forget people, women are the oppressed class and men are the perpetrators. An entire generation of school children will now have this as compulsory re-education in Victoria. That way the next Tostee will be jailed. That is feminist “equality” for you.
Comment by Vman — Thu 20th October 2016 @ 7:58 pm
Good synopsis Vman. I agree.
Note that the Tostee case has been referred to by various journalists, feminists and white knights as evidence of males as sexual predators, violent monsters and even as an example of (NZ’s!) ‘rape culture’. That was all long before the case was put under the scrutiny of a trial, showing how readily feminist ideology and propaganda lead people to think irrationally.
Comment by Man X Norton — Fri 21st October 2016 @ 10:33 am
Read the script of the whole recording here. It shows that Wright was violent and crazy. The alleged choking sounds were clearly when Wright had some heavy object that she was trying or threatening to bash Tostee with and he was trying to take it off her. Tostee is generally kind and reasonable until near the end when he appeared to become quite angry about her ongoing violence towards him. The spin that the feminists and most media commentators have given us based on their assumptions was just so wrong.
Comment by Man X Norton — Fri 21st October 2016 @ 3:09 pm
She had a history of self harm , cutting herself I believe so she clearly was unstable . Poor guy!
Comment by Bunyip — Fri 21st October 2016 @ 4:31 pm
#7 where did you get this onto from? This poor girl had major psychological problems that led to her death and I am so happy that her past has thus far not been dragged out into the public domain. I also wish that the press would hold back on Tostee’s irrelevent past.
Comment by triassic — Fri 21st October 2016 @ 9:51 pm
That info I first heard on the radio on the way to work the other day , It was found in the post morton examination of the body that she had multiple scars on her wrists , thigh and upper chest which appeared to be self inflicted and that they were probably weeks or months old .
Comment by Bunyip — Fri 21st October 2016 @ 10:41 pm
Google it , there are quite a few write ups containing that info floating about .
Comment by Bunyip — Fri 21st October 2016 @ 10:43 pm
#8: What’s good for the goose is good for the gander
Comment by Man X Norton — Sat 22nd October 2016 @ 9:57 am
I agree man x but this girl is not the problem, per se, that irks me. She was a troubled girl struggling with life. The Press and the Police Prosecuters are the problem. It is a tragedy for both individuals. She is dead after all and she has a mother and father who will suffer a lot more with her dirty laundry hung out in public. Once again we see the negative results eminating from the cancer called ‘feminisim’
Comment by triassic — Sat 22nd October 2016 @ 12:18 pm
Yes triassic @12. All due respects to the dead and sympathy to her loved ones.
I would prefer to show compassion and sensitivity in such cases. When feminists, women generally, white knights, media and the Courts return to showing compassion and sensitivity towards drunk, violent males who are troubled and struggling with life, I will follow their example. Until then, drunk, violent females who are troubled and struggling with life will just have to put up with the same kind of treatment men get, under the gender equality that the sisterhood claims to want.
Tostee was probably at least as troubled as most people are in our era, although in the feminist era his one-night-stand lifestyle was a very sensible choice that provided him with some protection against having his assets plundered, his economic life ruined and his father-heart seriously wounded by some disloyal wife. He was clearly quite honest about what he was offering his dates, enabling them to make informed choices about whether to see him for sex. Also, he wasn’t violent or very drunk yet he was still subjected to nasty misrepresentation and prejudgment by media, feminists and white knights, and this continued even after he was acquitted and the facts were released to the public. Sorry, but troubled ladies really can’t expect much kindness and consideration in this vicious feminist era.
Comment by Man X Norton — Sat 22nd October 2016 @ 10:17 pm
She was a deaconess of the seventh day adventist church , so what was she doing prowling for cock on tinder ? and why the hell was she cutting herself ?
The mind boggles , the self harm thing is common among prostitutes .
Comment by Bunyip — Sun 23rd October 2016 @ 11:16 am
Self-cutting is typical for people with Borderline Personality Disorder, often resulting from very early childhood insecurity, neglect or poor attachment.
Comment by Man X Norton — Sun 23rd October 2016 @ 11:54 am
From my experience, borderline personality disorder ALWAYS results from early childhood insecurity neglect or poor attachment.
And mabye I read it wrong but I thought it was her mum that was the deacon of the 7th dayers.
Comment by voices back from the bush — Sun 23rd October 2016 @ 11:53 pm
My mistake it was in fact her mother .
Comment by Bunyip — Mon 24th October 2016 @ 10:29 pm