Foreign brides swamp refuges
Stuff: Foreign brides swamp refuges
‘Men are legally allowed to bring them into the country and beat them senseless. We’re setting them up to be abused.’
Heather Henare, Women’s Refuge national manager
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I commented on that link site. I hope they listen.
“It seems that everything we do to take care of a few women opens the doors for many other women to abuse the system put in place. I have no doubts that women are getting physically abused and I have no doubts that alot of these situations would be resolved with intervention of some sort. Not neccessarily, refuge and easy access to New Zealand citizenship.
It has become well known that if a woman is having a hard time with the immigration services, she can turn to a refuge, lay abuse charges on her husband and become a New Zealand Citizen with their help. Is anybody concerned at the amount of men in prison serving sentences for these events. Some have been heard and have or are being released. But not enough. There is an amount of these women just playing our system. And the word is spreading fast through Asian, Fiji and India.”
Comment by julie — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 11:02 am
I want my country back.
Comment by Bevan Berg — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 12:17 pm
I agree with you Julie.
Heather Henare’s just being plain stupid and playing the emotional card saying – ‘Men are legally allowed to bring them into the country and beat them senseless. We’re setting them up to be abused.’
Notice there’s no actual evidence put forward to back up her ludicrous claim just ‘estimates’.
I also notice a disturbing trend happening in NZ.
Whenever men appear to be getting public attention for thier issues, as has been the case most recently with protests against the family court, it seems some radfem/s bleat some over the top emotive victim message to hog public attention and stir up more female anger towards men.
Sad thing is that inciting hatred towards a social group using stereotyping hyperbole (in this case men) is a form of violence.
Comment by Stephen Gee — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 1:24 pm
You can say that again, Mr Gee, happens every time.
If I may quote you.
“I also notice a disturbing trend happening in NZ,
Whenever men appear to be getting public attention for thier issues, as has been the case most recently with protests against the family court, it seems some radfem/s bleat some over the top emotive victim message to hog public attention and stir up more female anger towards men.”
Comment by Bevan Berg — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 1:44 pm
Stephen Gee,
I can see this trend.
And I think it is really sad how empires like the women’s refuge continue to grow. I have had a few discussions with friends and it seriously doesn’t look as if violence is increasing.
You would think that the whole aim for women’s refuge would be to not exist. In after 10 years and tax payers spending $100 billion plus, you would think things are better. If I was in charge and someone told me the problem was bigger, I would say, “What you are doing does’t work”
And I would pay out less money than more.
I have been in New Zealand for 10 years and I can honestly say, I don’t see half the violence I used to. The education programs and all the other areas towards nil violence has and is working.
There have been some really good ideas on this site and I seriously think we have to put plans into prevention rather than band-aids.
Comment by julie — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 1:44 pm
Which ideas are the good ideas Julie?
Comment by Bevan Berg — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 1:59 pm
Dear Mr Menz
I likeing you am very much.
I wanting to come you place to. Please help me.
I your side-maiden am seeking you to be. I very good to you be. Maybe children? No?
Pehaps you write me? I come you place to serve you. Send me air-fares kindly. $15,000 to my account, and I at your side be!
Thanking you kindly aagin.
Comment by Al D Rado — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 4:15 pm
My x-partner (asian) married a convicted peadophile more than twice her age to gain NZ citizneship (admitted to me) and then left him days after recieving her citizenship. There were numerous false statements in her immigration applications, and her NZ husband also discovered that she was still married to her asian husband, but before he could do anything he was arrested and then charged with sexual abuse against her daughter. He pleaded innocent, but his past conviction was difficult to escape.
She was told that I had a nice home all to myself and that I had ‘come into money’, and we were then ‘introduced’. She left me one week after our three year anniversary (of meeting) and made a claim on my home (she jumped ship too early).
In both cases she claimed physical abuse against her, but at least in my case she admitted to the police that this was a false claim. She has however made full use of the women’s refuge, legal aid (hiding her savings), easy-to-hide under-table-work, and the Family Court system, which has supported her efforts in keeping my son and I apart as much as possible (punishing me becuase she didn’t get my home).
I wonder how many other imports wait until they have NZ citizenship, or until the 3 year milestone is passed before falsly claiming abuse and taking advantage of our biased systems to screw over their partners, who are left destroyed or struggling.
Comment by Wayne — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 4:45 pm
Good on you Wayne for speaking up.
You are so not alone. Only yesterday another guy I know has married a woman who is only here for citizenship. These women are on the hunt for men who are gullable. But they don’t need to find gullable, for they are placing ads in the papers. It is becoming so normal that it is not hidden. And they have planned the violence cry and victim role before even coming here.
Comment by julie — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 8:25 pm
Bevan,
I had written something different but what I mean’t is that you are working in a different area than I am. What i think a good idea, you most likely will not.
Comment by julie — Sun 14th May 2006 @ 8:31 pm