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Thu 20th July 2017

Where are all the Children?

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 1:34 pm

Natural reproduction hits an all time low.

Our fertility rate has dropped to 1.87

Whether men want children is probably not the issue here. Women are capable of aquiring a pregnancy if they want, knowing the decision will be fully funded by the State.

I’ve heard some misplaced fear amongst the younger generation, but even from educated women too, that they are doing the world a favour by having a single child. Haven’t they heard the world is past peek population – even China has given up its one-child policy.

Then we’ve seen media articles outlining the thoughts of young modern females, that have better things to do with their time.

It’s not an unrecorded phenomenon in developed societies, even as far back as the Roman Empire, with the decline in natural population generally seen as an ailment to a healthy society.

Is Feminist ideolody killing the Kiwi?

Are we going the way of the moa?

Virtual Justice

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts,Men's Health — Downunder @ 10:50 am

Video links have been used for some time now, within the Justice System, to eliminate minor appearances, for a person in custody.

In September the Police arrest process in Central Auckland will be transferred to a new processing unit near Mt Eden Prison. Along with this will come virtual court appearances, where overnight arrests will be dealt with through video links.

This is a conceptual change to our Justice System, firstly in terms of bringing people before the court, to see the judge in other words, but secondly, isolating individuals from the outside word, from contact with other people apart from the processing staff.

It is a conceptual change in the traditional role of the Police to now deliver an offender to the processing unit rather than the court.

We have a century plus of court reporting, (some highly amusing records within the pages of history) but now there is a question of how much the media will see or could be stopped from seeing.

The majority of the arrested are of course men. These men will be in a new camp. A vague isolation somewhere between the Police and the Court, inches from the nearest prison.

Cost effective, convenient, carbon efficient, or another step in dehumasing the male of the species?

Wed 19th July 2017

Gender Equality, Non-Discrimination, Yeah Right

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:37 am

Special Grants only for women to promote leadership skills

Sun 9th July 2017

Protection Orders – Court of Appeal Decision

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 7:02 pm

News Source

This is mostly Catriona Mc whatsit blowing her own trumpet, but the actual decision may be worth looking at for those interested.

Thu 6th July 2017

Presentations from the International Conference on Men’s Issues 2017

Filed under: General — Ted @ 4:25 pm

These are now being published on the Ear For Men YouTube channel. The latest one at time of writing:

Augusto Zimmermann – The Abuse of Domestic Violence Orders in Australia

Wed 5th July 2017

Referral for Auckland Legal Aid Lawyer experienced in de facto /sham-constructive trust court proceedings

Filed under: General — Andy @ 1:09 pm

Can anyone recommend an Auckland or maybe Hamilton based legal aid lawyer competent in de facto relationship and sham/constructive family trust proceedings. Thanks

Tue 4th July 2017

Suicide And The Hidden Reality

Filed under: General — triassic @ 9:23 pm

The NZ Herald has run a story on youth suicide. Any story helping to drop the suicide rate is to be commended but why pick youth suicide as though that’s where the BIG PROBLEM lie. Check out this bar chart and you might see my point.
For the website go here

It should stick out like dogs proverbials where the biggest problem exists and where most help and public awareness should be focused. It is my cynicism around the NZH agenda that I note – in youth suicide the gap between male and female is a lot closer than in any other group. It is the one cohort where you could (possibly) state that suicide is not a gender issue. Over-all, and in any other group, gender is a major issue and is ignored as such by the media and mental health. To be fair, the lives of males have been dispensable and used as cannon fodder since time began so why should any body think to put a stop to that now?

Mon 3rd July 2017

Paula Bennett the Victim of Preposterous Allegations

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 7:52 pm

A guy called Ashley Farrell claims he was a child when he shared company with Paula Bennett and he experienced her doing things that may have been illegal, while he also claims to have been aware of other things she was doing at the time that may have been illegal in her capacity as a beneficiary. We can’t risk repeating the allegations here because of threats made by Bennett, her lawyers and retired Judge Dr David Harvey (Director of the New Zealand Centre for ICT Law) about stuff like defamation, harassment and the Harmful Digital Communications Act.

We were able to read the allegations here but we believe they have been taken down. We may have committed a serious offence by reading the allegations so we would discourage anyone from trying to do so.

Some might say that Ashley Farrell was unwise to make his allegations in such a public way instead of making a complaint to police and informing the authorities about the other offending. However, we don’t know if he ever tried to do so. We all know how police often treat men who make allegations against women. It ranges from refusing to take the complaint or refusing to take it further, to charging the man with some offence instead. And when that woman is the deputy prime minister…

Ashley Farrell’s allegations are simply preposterous. It’s totally unacceptable ever to question the honour of any woman. Any man who makes allegations about a woman should be imprisoned and put to death, without trial.

Sun 2nd July 2017

Motion To Amend The Purpose of This Site and to Amend the Governance Policies.

Filed under: General — martin @ 11:04 am

I have not been a member of this site for very long relative to some of the others, but I find that it’s rules are draconian and support adult censorship; specifically the involvement of John Potter who proclaims to own the site and his minions you proclaim to remove content on the grounds that it violates the rules. According to the site’s own proclamation found on the about page:

“the committee (UOF) decided to withdraw from political activism and concentrate on developing support services for separated fathers negotiating the Family Court. Menz.org.nz is now owned and administered by the current webslave John Potter.”

I propose the following:

1) That this in NOT what this site is about, it doesn’t support services for separated fathers, nor does it promote activism. What is really is, is a site for men to express their views and opinions about anything and everything related to all aspects of men’s lives with a bent towards fathers dealing with the injustices presented to men and then more specifically those men who find themselves dealing with broken down relationships and how they are treated by government agencies within NZ.

Therefore I request that the information page and the policies are changed to reflect that actual purpose of the site.

2) Censorship is a harmful thing and goes in the face of one’s fundamental right to freedom of expression. While there are occasions where we are all offended by those you critique us or what our opinions are, that is too bad.

I have been a member of left-wing do-good societies who constitutionally could not expel members who had ideologies that were so opposite to the societies values only to end up entertaining that person’s beliefs instead of rationally asking them to leave. To have asked the person to leave is not censorship, rather it is pragmatic way of dealing with the freedom of expression but in the context of the forum which it belongs.

[ Mod: content removed – discussion about the appropriateness of other’s comments is specifically forbidden]
Does not belong!! This is censorship.

I propose that NO form of censorship is applied to the site, other than where absolutely necessary.

Finally, this is not a complaint about anyone in particular, as I am sure the motivation of those who moderate believe in what they are doing, but I disagree. The site is stale, it is run by left-wing self-centred bureaucrats. Perhaps a new site is what is required, after all John Potter believes he owns this site. He doesn’t own it other than by name and registration of that name. It is actually owned by the people who contribute, without them it would just be a placeholder.

Fri 30th June 2017

The Death of a Child

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:54 am

We are seeing more often the death of children due to distracted ‘carers’ and convictions for manslaughter.

Mother and grandmother jailed for death of baby Isaiah in hot car

In this case the comparison is drawn in the article about one other case and the sentence.

There is also a question of the presence or absence of the father in these cases, and how they are included or excluded.

Tue 27th June 2017

Our Submission to Ministry of Health Concerning Suicide Prevention Strategy

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 7:48 am

MoMA asked Hans Laven to prepare a submission and we post it here with thanks for his hard work. It’s not short but hopefully worthwhile.

We draw attention here particularly to Section 2, Section 3 and Section 6.1. And the sentence that pretty well sums up the previous and the currently proposed Suicide Prevention Strategy: “While partnering with Maori, Pacific and other groups is justified, partnering with men’s groups and men’s services is more justified, indeed essential, and excluding men from mention here amounts to appalling sexism.” (more…)

Sun 25th June 2017

The Perverse Effects of Child Support

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 9:50 am

We need to be aware in our conversations with other men (and women), that within the depth of our ongoing experiences, we hold valuable information which needs to be collected, if by no other means than the addition to this reservoir of experiences.

The voice of men is too often drowned out in the flow of Feminist bullshit: if that conduit of reality escapes us, the conduit of purification does also.

As an example, this is a situation I came across in a recent discussion. (more…)

Sat 24th June 2017

Feminism, it’s not about equality.

Filed under: General — Hugin @ 5:15 pm

A response to this article http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/women-of-influence/94016874/women-of-influence-feminism-has-been-around-for-over-150-years-and-its-still-needed that I’m sure wont be published in Stuff.co.nz
Story Here
I recently read an opinion by Anna Guenther concerning the future of feminism. She started her opinion off with a tale of some casual sexism, but don’t worry it was sexism against men so that’s okay in feminist world.

She had been asked to speak about the future of feminism and had to decline as she admitted she wasn’t a feminist, however her boyfriend was and was happy to speak. The organiser unsurprisingly said no Anna reported. (more…)

Entertaining Stupidity

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 8:47 am

It was always going to happen, but many people may still scratch their heads and wonder why?

We look around us and see not only the current rabble of destructive youth, but an increasing number of adult female offenders, in particular you might observe, the multi-million dollar fraud club of mischievous-maids. I’m sure they compare notes – “mines bigger than yours”.

Of course this would have nothing to do with the innocent progression of Feminism. (more…)

Sun 18th June 2017

Finding my Child

Filed under: Child Support,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Had_Enough @ 11:30 am


The mother of my child took her out of NZ 3 years ago against my will but the Courts allowed it so there was nothing I could do. She was 15 at the time but is now 18. I had very little contact with her while she was overseas because her mother gave a false addresses and refused to allow me to speak with her when I called on the phone and eventually moved so phone contact wasn’t possible. I was able to figure out what Canadian school she was attending and built up a good rapport with her teachers and was given access to her school portal. A couple of months ago her headmaster informed me that she had left the school and he was told she had gone back to NZ. Her mother isn’t mentally well and, although never formally diagnosed, I believe she has borderline personality disorder and is highly paranoid and unstable. My concern is that I don’t know where my daughter is and have no way of knowing if she’s OK or not. IRD won’t tell me which I find a bit annoying because they are quite happy to continue deducting one quarter of my take home pay each month because my daughter is allegedly still at school and thus still qualifies for child support. I was wondering if there’s a Govt agency or process such as the Official Information Act that would give me information on my daughter’s whereabouts. I would appreciate any info on this. Thanks guys.


Fri 16th June 2017

Sex, lies and a baby: When dads discover they aren’t the father after all

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 9:40 am

News Clip

Its not so common to see news stories mainstream like the one above. You just couldn’t miss it if you were a member of parliament.

This site is about mens issues. But this problem is not just about men or even boys. Just reading some of the outcomes is harrowing for everyone involved. Daughters, sisters too have to manage when the truth comes out.

I was particularly taken from the comments made by Peet. (more…)

Wed 14th June 2017

Attendance at assessment and non-violence program

Filed under: Domestic Violence — martin @ 8:46 pm

I am sure some of you have attended these. I myself have attended one some 7 years ago. I will start with a question – what is this about?

Let me explain. I have a custody order already allowing supervised access. In the last “programme” I went along (I think it was supposed to be a group activity) and ended up only agreeing with the guy over one thing – pointless waste of time for us both and so ended up on a one-on-one programme – which also turned out to be a waste of time.

So I would have thought that under the Human Rights Act, I have the right to freedom of thought. Am I to go along and be re-programmed by some git who wants to force me to assimilate propaganda like I might have expect in somewhere like China or the former USSR? Surely the old adage about leading a horse to water must apply here?

Has anyone got a good understanding of how this works?

Influences on decision making in NZ child protection

Filed under: Events,Gender Politics,Sex Abuse / CYF — MurrayBacon @ 6:50 pm

What influences decision making variability in the Aotearoa New Zealand child welfare system? (Seminar with Emily Keddell)

Thursday 22nd June 2017 4 – 5pm

Venue: Room N614, Epsom Campus

Location: 74 Epsom Avenue, Auckland

Host: The School of Counselling, Human Services and Social Work

In many countries, the complex nature of decision-making in relation to children who have been neglected or abused leads to variable decisions regarding their care, even when case characteristics, family circumstances and levels of harm are similar. This leads to a justice problem, as both children’s right to protection, and parental rights to maintain the care of their children, should be enforced in a consistent manner by legal and regulatory systems.

Tue 13th June 2017

Why Aren’t There Any Women On Team NZ?

Filed under: General — martin @ 7:05 pm

Your guess is as good as mine – can’t they do anything?

Sun 11th June 2017

A video for our nations MP’s

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 11:50 pm

Sat 10th June 2017

You All Paid For It, So Thanks

Filed under: Law & Courts — martin @ 6:23 pm

As I said, here is the update.
I just received the Protection Order and Parenting Order today – two young policemen did their duty by delivering and pseudo reading out what they deemed to be important – no contact, no firearms, lasting forever, etc, etc. I had to let him carry on I didn’t have the heart to tell him that I knew more about the law than he likely ever will and that anyway I have already been through this before.

Thu 8th June 2017


Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 2:33 pm

This newly named sexual orientation, ‘pornosexual’, is probably related to some extent to MGTOW. Under modern laws and administration, relationships and marriage have been made seriously dangerous for men. However, there’s no mention in the article about that aspect of the issue.

Previous posts have highlighted a mounting campaign by feminist forces against pornography. We can’t allow men to find ways out of being enslaved, now can we? (more…)

Tue 6th June 2017

Discharge of Protection Order

Filed under: General — telemachus85 @ 10:48 am

My ex partner took out a protection order and I challenged it as she accused me of several things but as it always goes I lost and it became final …. I breached the temporary protection order by communicating with her online and sending her texts as I wanted to assure her I meant no harm was convicted and fined for it.

From there on I decided I need to let it go as she is vicious and can just destroy my life so now it’s been 4.5 years I never ever contacted her or go in the area where I think I might bump into her. I applied to courts to lift the order as I have been in a steady relationship for last 2 years and have no desire to contact her anymore. I received a letter that she has engaged a lawyer and going to file a defence. What do you think are my chances of getting the order lifted as I just want to move on in my life. Is it worth contesting it or try again in 2-3 years time? I was advised by community lawyer that if 3 years have elapsed it is a good time in my case it’s been 4.5 years already… Any suggestions

Mon 5th June 2017

Treating Babies Differently by Gender

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 4:31 pm

This study should be fascinating, probably for its poor research design, invalid extrapolation, poor reasoning and misuse of words that mean one thing to imply they mean something else. From what we can make out, the researcher surveyed a group of parents and found that 79% said they wanted their children to be free of limiting gender stereotypes and 92% said they agreed it was important to treat girls and boys equally in their early years. Mmm, well most parents want the best for their children and if the wording of questions makes them sound like that’s what it’s about, most parents would tend to answer “yes”. Anyway, from this startling finding the researcher concluded that it’s ‘crucial’ we don’t treat baby girls differently from baby boys because that will cause the boys to be domestic violence perpetrators and will cause people generally to think men make better leaders. And so forth.

It is surprising that feminist academics continue to ignore the evidence that gender is largely genetic. We have known quite a few educated parents who were careful not to use blue or pink or gender-specific toys or activities. Guess what? As soon as they were old enough to actively show their interest in one thing or another, most of the boys just wanted such things as toy trucks, weapons and things to dismantle while most of the girls just wanted such things as dolls, flowery things and personal embellishments, and neither showed much interest in the other’s preferences.

Incidentally, it seems to be common practice by the feminist researchers to spread their claimed findings and extrapolations through news media before actually publishing their papers. This cleverly prevents readers from being able to check the actual research to see if the news release information was justified. It’s only possible of course because of journalists’ complicity.

Sat 3rd June 2017

Preventing adolescent relationship abuse and promoting healthy relationships

Media have given publicity to a NZ Family Violence Clearinghouse paper recently prepared by Dr Melane Beres called “Preventing adolescent relationship abuse and promoting healthy relationships”. The paper is an opinion piece citing various research papers of varying quality in support. This may have been lost on journalists who attributed various statistics to the ‘report’s findings’ when in fact they had been findings in other studies merely repeated here.

The main theme of Dr Beres’ paper was that adolescent relationship violence (sexual, physical and emotional ) is a big problem in NZ that needs to be changed, and she made various suggestions about what exactly should be targeted for change and how best to achieve this. She may well be correct in some of what she says though it and the underlying assumptions deserve careful scrutiny and consideration. Although adolescent boys report being subject to significant levels of the same problems reported by girls, Dr Beres clearly lays the blame for such problems mainly on males, maleness and male socialization. There is also an interesting confusion in her paper between gender and racial political correctness, for example implying that if Maori youth were to be taught traditional Maori culture and values this would result in reduced violence.

However, the point of this post is to highlight the false propaganda involved in Dr Beres’ paper and keenly spread by our journalists. Surely it’s not unreasonable to expect that journalists will try to clarify what things mean and will try to convey accurate information about the world? No such luck when it comes to feminist assertions and other politically fashionable stuff. (more…)

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