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Fri 28th August 2015

Fathers Day at Ambury Farm/Park Sunday 6th Sept

Filed under: Events — realkiwi @ 10:16 am

Father and Child Trust and Family Start Manukau invite you to:

Family fun at Ambury Farm/Park – Mangere Bridge, Auckland – 11am-4pm
Free Bouncy castle, BBQ, drinks, cool music and fun games for families..

All welcome – come and see the cute wee lambs and enjoy the open space…

This event is part of a Fathers Day/Week of events,
including fishing off Mangere Bridge on Saturday 5th Sept, 1-5pm…
Testimonial Wednesday 2nd Sept – Mauri Ora Fathers Circle 6-9pm

Ph 5251690 or email info@fatherandchild.org.nz for more details.

Thu 27th August 2015

Amy Adams’ Consultation is a Sham?

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:11 am

FYI, our letter to Hon Amy Adams. For background see (hear) http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/201768136


Tue 25th August 2015

Research exploring the experience of sole fathers caring for their child(ren) and the impacts to you and your family

Filed under: General — Dominic @ 11:35 am

Sole Fathers experiences of accessing social services.

You are invited to take part in research that Jason Rushton a thesis student on the Masters of Social Work programme at Massey University is undertaking in regards to exploring the experience of sole fathers caring for their child(ren) and the impacts to you and your family

The purpose of the study is to learn about the experiences sole fathers face when accessing social services.

I plan to interview up to eight sole fathers.

If you would like to find out more information, please contact Jason Rushton, by Phone or Text on 021 0700 705 or email jasonrushton@vodafone.co.nz
This project is supervised by Dr Michael Dale, Massey University, Phone (06) 356 9099 ext. 83522, M.P.Dale@massey.ac.nz and Dr Martin Sullivan, Massey University, Phone (06) 356 9099 ext. 83525, M.J.Sullivan@massey.ac.nz.

This project has been reviewed and approved by the Massey University Human Ethics Committee: Southern B, Application 15/46.If you have any concerns about the conduct of this research, please contact Prof Julie Boddy, Chair, Massey University Human Ethics Committee: Southern B, telephone 06 350 5799 x 86055, email humanethicsouthb@massey.ac.nz

I took a look at some of his work papers and intentions and believe it could help fathers in the future.

A Grandmother’s Perspective on Family Violence

Filed under: Domestic Violence — JohnPotter @ 9:35 am

Hi John, after reading through the family violence discussion document today I sent the following email through and thought you and your subscribers might be interested in the subject.
Regards, SanNan.

My recent and current experience regarding my grandchildren has highlighted significant problems with our systems approach to this subject. Specifically the rights and powers to protect children from harm. As a grandparent I have a duty and responsibility to protect my grandchildren from harm caused to them by their parent, however current legislation does not allow me to do so. I have no power to take a child away from the abuser.

After staying in hospital with my 3 month old granddaughter injured by her consistently neglectful mother (who didn’t want to be there) shaking her and screaming at her, I had absolutely no power to prevent the mother taking the child away at discharge time.

The abuse and neglect was reported to hospital staff and Social Workers who then referred the matter to Family Works. The Hospital Social Workers advised that the mother was free to take the child if she wanted to. The harming of this child was not considered to be important enough to be considered urgent and appallingly the mother suffered no consequences for what she had done to the child because – the child had survived and recovered. Therefore the mother was permitted to take the child and everyone ‘hoped’ that it wouldn’t happen again. I was advised that I had no legal right to stop her taking the child. We were told that ‘eventually’ someone from Family Works would make contact with the mother to help her do a better job.

It became very apparent that part of the complacency was due to the fact that it was the mother who harmed the child which apparently is ‘more understandable’. If the abusive parent had been the father, more action would have been taken. Gender bias when it comes to the safety of children is unacceptable.

Placing a child back in the care of their abusive parent without any supervision is unacceptable and denies that child their basic human right to be safe from harm. Babies cannot speak up or defend themselves.

  • The Law and all agencies working in areas regarding child safety, should put the safety and wellbeing of the child BEFORE the rights and wishes of the abusive parent.
  • grandparents should have the legal right and power to remove the child from the abusive parents care until that parent has received counselling and completed an approved parenting programme and anger management programme. Until these programmes are completed and it is proven that the child will be safe, the abusive parent should be permitted supervised access only.
  • shaking a baby is ABUSE
  • pouring ‘boiling’ milk into a babies mouth is ABUSE

These are serious issues that must be addressed.

Our current systems obsession with keeping children with their parents (especially mothers) has gone too far and has caused complacency within the agencies responsible for dealing with these matters. The systems and rules themselves are putting children at further risk.

Mon 24th August 2015

Boshier To Be Chief Ombudsman

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 6:48 pm

How can the head of the a male-blaming campaign that deliberately excludes concern for male victims be trusted to be an ombudsman? How can a person who has publicly called for more draconian state violence towards men be put in that role? NZ men can now look forward to the same discrimination they routinely experienced in Boshier’s Family Court man-denigration machine. NZ men will now be deprived of fair service from what should be a public watchdog on the behaviour of other state organisations.

Wed 19th August 2015

Convicted Killer living with Children

Filed under: General — goose @ 12:10 am


this guy has been in the media a number of times, my son is the 14 yr old mentioned in this article and the way I was treated when I asked the Police if this man was a risk to my child was awful. I am pretty sure if the shoe was on the other foot, i.e I had my son living with me and my new partner was a convicted killer – cyfs would have removed the children from my care, but all I got was ‘this sounds like a custody issue so we will not be getting involved’

Tue 18th August 2015

How shallow are females on tinder?

Filed under: General — triassic @ 11:27 pm

In response to this article in the Herald I ran my own study. In my first post I added my close up photo and simply said I was looking to form a relationship with a woman to share the good things in life and to love and cherish her. I added that I had lost my home, my job and my children after my previous marriage failed. I then swiped right on the profiles of a hundred women, indicating that I was ‘interested’. After five hours i had received 16 matches from potential dates.
I then replaced my photo with one of me sitting in my lamborghini aventador wearing my Cartier watch and a fist full of $$$$$. After again swiping right on a hundred women, this time my profile attracted 75 matches in the five hour time frame – a 250 per cent increase on my previous post.

The Herald is right….there really are narcissistic people out there that go to these particular sites to satisfy their appetite, but they are a minority of folk and come from both genders…….that is what the Herald is saying, isn’t it?…surely!!

Sign this US petition demanding paternity testing

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 7:54 am

Although a US petition, changes in international law and approaches will be influential towards changes in NZ. It’s interesting that it’s being done by ‘Women Against Paternity Fraud’. Although it’s hard to avoid feeling suspicious of any women’s group these days, their motivation appears to be social responsibility and it’s important that men’s groups go all out to support any women’s group that is seeing sense, showing support for gender fairness and/or showing understanding concerning men’s issues.

Sign the petition here.

Fri 14th August 2015

Women’s Law on the way for New Zealand

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics — Downunder @ 7:04 am


A new set of harsher standalone offences may come from a comprehensive review of New Zealand’s domestic violence problem, the Justice Ministry announced last week.

This article is more specifically about a father viewing these proposed laws from the perspective of his autistic son’s mental health issues.

Police were working with the Health Ministry and other agencies, including Autism NZ, to improve how they dealt with the issue, which included “enhanced” mental health training given to officers by people who had gone through mental distress and had dealt with police while in crisis.

The irony here of course, is that a woman will be able to have a complete meltdown and her husband or partner will get arrested without any consideration for his mental health, well-being, or personal circumstances.

Creating these specific offences will go exactly were we might expect; justifying the worst side of women.

Women’s Meltdown Law … and that of course is for the benefit and wellbeing of the children of the next generation – Yeah Right.

Thu 13th August 2015

Men Need to ‘Step Up’ to Support Women Into High-Paid Jobs

Filed under: Gender Politics,General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 2:29 pm

We share and comment on an interesting broadcast by Radio NZ on ‘Te Manu Korihi’ (‘the birds singing’) on 7 August 2015. Excerpts from the transcript were as follows:

Presenter: The head of the Federation of Maori Authorities says Maori men need to step up and be more supportive of Maori businesswomen. The Authority runs an annual hui for Maori wahine to support the progression of women in top business leadership roles. Te Manu Korihi’s Alexa Cook reports:

AC: “The chair of the authority, Tracey Haupapa, says wahine face challenges in progressing up the business ladder to senior leadership roles such as chief executive and manager. Ms Haupapa says for women to move forward in business, men need to be more supportive.”


Fri 7th August 2015

Feminist Logic 101

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:06 pm

The Court of Appeal is said to have “reached a new milestone” in having its first all-women bench in its history. This was seen by New Zealand Law Society President Chris Moore as being “another step in a long road to equality”.

Mr Moore has clearly been well trained in feminist logic. ‘Equality’ for feminists means total female dominance. You just need to understand the feminist definitions of words you thought meant something else.

Tue 4th August 2015

Recent Women’s Refuge Poster

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:36 pm

WR poster 0715

So are Women’s Refuge implying that internet trolling and anonymous victimization is something men mainly do to women? All they need to do is visit almost any feminist blog to see the misandrist online violence perpetrated by women, or look through MENZ Issues to read the demeaning, emotionally abusive responses by presumably female feminist trolls to many viewpoints expressed by men.

Revise abuse guidelines – Amy Adams

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 2:47 pm

This news article disturbs me on many fronts. To allow a new or current partner secret access to someone’s historical police record that is sealed will only end in corrupting relationships and could potentially end in male suicide.

Mon 3rd August 2015

Radio NZ informed of error concerning DV statistics

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:41 pm

Dear Morning Report

At 8:28am today 03/08/2015 you broadcast an article entitled ‘Judge says change needed to make protection orders effective’. Your announcer commenced by stating “14 women, 6 men and 10 children are killed by a member of their family every year on average; pretty extraordinary statistics…”. Your web site also states “Fourteen women, six men and ten children are killed by a member of their family every year on average…”. (more…)

More gossip from our leading newspaper

Filed under: General — triassic @ 4:34 pm

This story Was front page news. It is only when one reads the facts that the headline disintegrates. The girl in the bikini was not attacked at all. Her boyfriend was the target of aggression because he took umbrage at the guys being cheeky. Things got out of hand and an object was thrown and hit the girl. This is not happening in NZ, no, this is happening way over in Louisianna USA for God sake. Why the F*** would this WELL SPUN story be of value to readers way down under? Only the Herald knows the answer to that but I’m pretty sure some wanker in the office has an anti-male agenda and the Editor is now happy for the paper to be a gossip piece. What a pathetic newspaper it has become.

Sun 2nd August 2015

The cost of being a NON-custodial parent

Filed under: General — nzleagle @ 11:53 pm

So today I was helping a friend of mine work out their entitlements though Winz and IRD, my friend is a Single Parent with a child under 5.

For them renting a 2 bedroom unit in South Auckland for $300 a week, and working 20 hours a week at min wage, their total take home weekly income will be $724 a week, including child support from the Non Custodial Parent who has care of the child 2 nights a week.

So after they have paid for their rent, that leaves them with $424 a week for all other expenses.

So now if you look at the non-custodial parent, they still require a place to live, a place large enough to ideally have a separate room for the child to stay in while in their care, bedroom furniture, clothing, toys, activities, food, etc Say that that non-custodial parent also only earns min wage for 40 hours a week and also has a 2 bedroom unit in south Auckland at $300 a week.

Once you take into account the Accommodation from WINZ, and Child Support Paid. The Non-custodial parent has a take home income of $489 a week. Leaving the Non-Custodial Parent with $189 a week for all other expenses after accommodation.

This works out to the non-custodial parent earning $235 less than the custodial parents income. While undertaking 20 hours more paid work.

So does it actually cost 65% more to have a child 5 nights vs 2 nights?

Rent per week is the same, power will be roughly the same, phone/internet bills wouldn’t be expected to be any different. Can probably expect to pay 50% more for a food bill, both parents still need to provide clothes, toys etc

Maybe the Government needs to look at these costs, and realize that it costs to have children in your care. and start working out their rates of Working for Families, and Accommodation on a nightly basis rather than having to meet a certain threshold….. It wouldn’t be overly hard to work out entitlements, the hardest part would be proving the actual time you have…

If you got assistance based on the days you have children, with the above situation, it would change from the non-custodial parent having a take home income of $489 to $548 a week. With the Custodial parent going from $724, down to $600….

Thu 30th July 2015

Provocation and Hopelessness Cause Terrible Reactions

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 12:11 am

Tony Robertson committed seriously disturbed sexual and sexually motivated offences against children and was sentenced to eight years prison. It may well be that he would have committed the horrific running down, injuring, rape and murder of Blessie Gotingco after his release if given half a chance. However, it may also be that if he had been able to get on with his life after his sentence as used to happen, he would have found some worthwhile way of supporting himself and choosing a better life. Even if he committed further sexual offending this would probably not have been fatal and he would soon have been caught and imprisoned for another long duration, to the relief of the community. Instead, what happened was that on the basis of fortune telling about his future behaviour, after he had served his entire 8 years for his previous crimes he was given a further 10-year sentence of ‘extended supervision’ and he gave up caring about anything.

Tue 28th July 2015

Millionaire leaves daughters $27m – but there is a catch!

Filed under: General — triassic @ 4:59 pm

In this NZ herald article the final line says it all. Rather than being portrayed a loving wise father wishing to protect his daughters inheritance, and therefore setting up protections and persuasions for such, he is simply labeled as a ‘controller’. The etymology of this word in this context is derogatory and the Herald must know it. The tag line from the NYP is the authors opinion and is offensive to many fathers so why not leave it out? This father is a very wise man and does not wish to have HIS money frittered away by irresponsible daughters so he lays out clearly some strict guild lines on how they should better themselves in the hope that they can hold onto their inheritance.I have done the same for my 2 daughters within my trust.

A nice story spoiled by a bitchy ending.

Mon 27th July 2015

Harmful Digital Communications Act

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:00 pm

This Act came into force on July 3. It’s probably a good idea for all posters to check out the information about it published by the Dept of Justice. It seems to provide the opportunity for people who don’t like something that was posted to ask/demand that it be taken down. The site administrator then needs to contact the author and ask if it can be taken down. If the author refuses, so the story goes, then the aggrieved party can take the matter to as-yet-to-be-established agency and then to a District Court which can order the post be removed. (more…)

Fri 24th July 2015

Canterbury DV research 38% of victims are men

Filed under: General — allan harvey @ 6:07 pm

When Men Experience Violence – An Interview with Researcher Shelley Johnson

Well, I was amazed to find that of the assaults in the Canterbury region from July 2014-March 2015, 38% involved a male victim.

All the media is around males being the perpetrator and females being the victim but there are males that are victims and it’s the male victims that are not gaining support.

Thu 23rd July 2015

Labour MP Kelvin Davis mocks men with a white ribbon

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 1:14 pm

We noticed that Labour MP Kelvin Davis wore a prominent white ribbon in parliament and during subsequent news interviews when he challenged the government about a possible cover-up concerning the death of an inmate who was thrown off a balcony in one of our privately-run prisons. Hey, it’s great to see any politician pay any attention to the welfare of a man no matter what the motive, this happens so rarely. However, Mr Davis’ white ribbon made it clear that his stand was nothing more than political gamesmanship. It can only be disingenuous to pretend that you care about a man while you overtly support a campaign that deliberately and pointedly excludes men as deserving of called-for protection from violence and that promotes false propaganda that only men commit violence worthy of concern. Wearing a white ribbon while pretending to care about a male victim frankly amounts to mocking men and their welfare concerns. Ha ha, we get the joke Kelvin. One may as well wear a Ku Klux Klan outfit while grandstanding about the misfortune of an African-American. For anyone who thinks honestly about it, a white ribbon is like a Ku Klux Klan badge promoting gender discrimination against men. (more…)

Female U.S. Restaurant Manager Would be Prosecuted if a Male

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:03 am

This interesting US case involved a female restaurant manager who yelled at a crying baby. An opinion piece on the matter was published here. Below is a reader’s comment in response to the article. The case raised similar issues to those in NZ’s ponytail-pulling crisis. (more…)

Titanic Syndrome

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 12:13 am

This is a media release from the Ministry for Men (Formerly Ministry of Men’s Affairs):

‘Titanic Syndrome’ Destroys Males

A spokesman for the Ministry for Men (formerly Ministry of Men’s Affairs) claims the ‘Titanic Syndrome’ is destroying males in NZ. The Ministry for Men is a community group because successive governments have failed to protect the voice and welfare of NZ males. The National Government has never sought advice from men’s groups. The earlier Labour Government promoted women’s welfare through the Ministry for Women (formerly the Ministry of Women’s Affairs) with funding that has now topped $100m.

“The majority of frozen bodies in the sea when the Titanic sank were men. Women were deemed more important.”

“As males in NZ sink into poverty, homelessness, slave labour, financial entrapment, judicial persecution and emotional abuse the pile of suicided male bodies is four times that of females. Our society is the Titanic.” (more…)

Wed 22nd July 2015

The Formation of Union of Fathers

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:17 am

Reading through the previous post, NZ Men Fed up with the Family Court, it occurs to me that some history from a few years back may be of interest to some of the commenters.

At the time I arrived on the scene of the Family Court chaos and corruption, the North Shore Men’s Centre had already been formed. I was in Auckland, it was my point of entry, to what was happening at the time.

(Of course, that was in the dark ages, when this site didn’t exist, and Men’s Issues was a good old paper pamphlet post-out that arrived in the mailbox once a month.) (more…)

Wed 8th July 2015

NZ Men Fed up with the NZ Family Court

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:24 pm

This Facebook page is humming! Well done Dominic. It reflects and is building a fast rising wave. We’re in for some interesting times.

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