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Mon 3rd August 2015

Radio NZ informed of error concerning DV statistics

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:41 pm

Dear Morning Report

At 8:28am today 03/08/2015 you broadcast an article entitled ‘Judge says change needed to make protection orders effective’. Your announcer commenced by stating “14 women, 6 men and 10 children are killed by a member of their family every year on average; pretty extraordinary statistics…”. Your web site also states “Fourteen women, six men and ten children are killed by a member of their family every year on average…”. (more…)

More gossip from our leading newspaper

Filed under: General — triassic @ 4:34 pm

This story Was front page news. It is only when one reads the facts that the headline disintegrates. The girl in the bikini was not attacked at all. Her boyfriend was the target of aggression because he took umbrage at the guys being cheeky. Things got out of hand and an object was thrown and hit the girl. This is not happening in NZ, no, this is happening way over in Louisianna USA for God sake. Why the F*** would this WELL SPUN story be of value to readers way down under? Only the Herald knows the answer to that but I’m pretty sure some wanker in the office has an anti-male agenda and the Editor is now happy for the paper to be a gossip piece. What a pathetic newspaper it has become.

Sun 2nd August 2015

The cost of being a NON-custodial parent

Filed under: General — nzleagle @ 11:53 pm

So today I was helping a friend of mine work out their entitlements though Winz and IRD, my friend is a Single Parent with a child under 5.

For them renting a 2 bedroom unit in South Auckland for $300 a week, and working 20 hours a week at min wage, their total take home weekly income will be $724 a week, including child support from the Non Custodial Parent who has care of the child 2 nights a week.

So after they have paid for their rent, that leaves them with $424 a week for all other expenses.

So now if you look at the non-custodial parent, they still require a place to live, a place large enough to ideally have a separate room for the child to stay in while in their care, bedroom furniture, clothing, toys, activities, food, etc Say that that non-custodial parent also only earns min wage for 40 hours a week and also has a 2 bedroom unit in south Auckland at $300 a week.

Once you take into account the Accommodation from WINZ, and Child Support Paid. The Non-custodial parent has a take home income of $489 a week. Leaving the Non-Custodial Parent with $189 a week for all other expenses after accommodation.

This works out to the non-custodial parent earning $235 less than the custodial parents income. While undertaking 20 hours more paid work.

So does it actually cost 65% more to have a child 5 nights vs 2 nights?

Rent per week is the same, power will be roughly the same, phone/internet bills wouldn’t be expected to be any different. Can probably expect to pay 50% more for a food bill, both parents still need to provide clothes, toys etc

Maybe the Government needs to look at these costs, and realize that it costs to have children in your care. and start working out their rates of Working for Families, and Accommodation on a nightly basis rather than having to meet a certain threshold….. It wouldn’t be overly hard to work out entitlements, the hardest part would be proving the actual time you have…

If you got assistance based on the days you have children, with the above situation, it would change from the non-custodial parent having a take home income of $489 to $548 a week. With the Custodial parent going from $724, down to $600….

Thu 30th July 2015

Provocation and Hopelessness Cause Terrible Reactions

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 12:11 am

Tony Robertson committed seriously disturbed sexual and sexually motivated offences against children and was sentenced to eight years prison. It may well be that he would have committed the horrific running down, injuring, rape and murder of Blessie Gotingco after his release if given half a chance. However, it may also be that if he had been able to get on with his life after his sentence as used to happen, he would have found some worthwhile way of supporting himself and choosing a better life. Even if he committed further sexual offending this would probably not have been fatal and he would soon have been caught and imprisoned for another long duration, to the relief of the community. Instead, what happened was that on the basis of fortune telling about his future behaviour, after he had served his entire 8 years for his previous crimes he was given a further 10-year sentence of ‘extended supervision’ and he gave up caring about anything.

As is the case with Protection Orders, the naive belief is that by depriving men of their civil rights and hammering men with unjust methods of attempted state control, this will increase safety. That always seemed unlikely. Men (and it has only ever been men) who have served their entire sentence and are then sentenced again for the same crimes to another 10 years of constant close and imposing surveillance and intimidation by agents of the state, in which where they live, what they do, whom they have contact with and most everything else about their lives is controlled and restricted by those state agents, can be expected to be very angry about this. It’s most unlikely those men will develop any sense of belonging, respect or appreciation regarding the society in which they live. Also, they can be expected to feel backed into a corner, defeated, hopeless about their ability ever to live a tolerable life, . Under those circumstances a good proportion of men will give up any idea of achieving an acceptable life. (more…)

Tue 28th July 2015

Millionaire leaves daughters $27m – but there is a catch!

Filed under: General — triassic @ 4:59 pm

In this NZ herald article the final line says it all. Rather than being portrayed a loving wise father wishing to protect his daughters inheritance, and therefore setting up protections and persuasions for such, he is simply labeled as a ‘controller’. The etymology of this word in this context is derogatory and the Herald must know it. The tag line from the NYP is the authors opinion and is offensive to many fathers so why not leave it out? This father is a very wise man and does not wish to have HIS money frittered away by irresponsible daughters so he lays out clearly some strict guild lines on how they should better themselves in the hope that they can hold onto their inheritance.I have done the same for my 2 daughters within my trust.

A nice story spoiled by a bitchy ending.

Mon 27th July 2015

Harmful Digital Communications Act

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:00 pm

This Act came into force on July 3. It’s probably a good idea for all posters to check out the information about it published by the Dept of Justice. It seems to provide the opportunity for people who don’t like something that was posted to ask/demand that it be taken down. The site administrator then needs to contact the author and ask if it can be taken down. If the author refuses, so the story goes, then the aggrieved party can take the matter to as-yet-to-be-established agency and then to a District Court which can order the post be removed. (more…)

Fri 24th July 2015

Canterbury DV research 38% of victims are men

Filed under: General — allan harvey @ 6:07 pm

When Men Experience Violence – An Interview with Researcher Shelley Johnson

Well, I was amazed to find that of the assaults in the Canterbury region from July 2014-March 2015, 38% involved a male victim.

All the media is around males being the perpetrator and females being the victim but there are males that are victims and it’s the male victims that are not gaining support.

Thu 23rd July 2015

Labour MP Kelvin Davis mocks men with a white ribbon

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 1:14 pm

We noticed that Labour MP Kelvin Davis wore a prominent white ribbon in parliament and during subsequent news interviews when he challenged the government about a possible cover-up concerning the death of an inmate who was thrown off a balcony in one of our privately-run prisons. Hey, it’s great to see any politician pay any attention to the welfare of a man no matter what the motive, this happens so rarely. However, Mr Davis’ white ribbon made it clear that his stand was nothing more than political gamesmanship. It can only be disingenuous to pretend that you care about a man while you overtly support a campaign that deliberately and pointedly excludes men as deserving of called-for protection from violence and that promotes false propaganda that only men commit violence worthy of concern. Wearing a white ribbon while pretending to care about a male victim frankly amounts to mocking men and their welfare concerns. Ha ha, we get the joke Kelvin. One may as well wear a Ku Klux Klan outfit while grandstanding about the misfortune of an African-American. For anyone who thinks honestly about it, a white ribbon is like a Ku Klux Klan badge promoting gender discrimination against men. (more…)

Female U.S. Restaurant Manager Would be Prosecuted if a Male

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:03 am

This interesting US case involved a female restaurant manager who yelled at a crying baby. An opinion piece on the matter was published here. Below is a reader’s comment in response to the article. The case raised similar issues to those in NZ’s ponytail-pulling crisis. (more…)

Titanic Syndrome

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 12:13 am

This is a media release from the Ministry for Men (Formerly Ministry of Men’s Affairs):

‘Titanic Syndrome’ Destroys Males

A spokesman for the Ministry for Men (formerly Ministry of Men’s Affairs) claims the ‘Titanic Syndrome’ is destroying males in NZ. The Ministry for Men is a community group because successive governments have failed to protect the voice and welfare of NZ males. The National Government has never sought advice from men’s groups. The earlier Labour Government promoted women’s welfare through the Ministry for Women (formerly the Ministry of Women’s Affairs) with funding that has now topped $100m.

“The majority of frozen bodies in the sea when the Titanic sank were men. Women were deemed more important.”

“As males in NZ sink into poverty, homelessness, slave labour, financial entrapment, judicial persecution and emotional abuse the pile of suicided male bodies is four times that of females. Our society is the Titanic.” (more…)

Wed 22nd July 2015

The Formation of Union of Fathers

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:17 am

Reading through the previous post, NZ Men Fed up with the Family Court, it occurs to me that some history from a few years back may be of interest to some of the commenters.

At the time I arrived on the scene of the Family Court chaos and corruption, the North Shore Men’s Centre had already been formed. I was in Auckland, it was my point of entry, to what was happening at the time.

(Of course, that was in the dark ages, when this site didn’t exist, and Men’s Issues was a good old paper pamphlet post-out that arrived in the mailbox once a month.) (more…)

Wed 8th July 2015

NZ Men Fed up with the NZ Family Court

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:24 pm

This Facebook page is humming! Well done Dominic. It reflects and is building a fast rising wave. We’re in for some interesting times.

The Age of Estrangement

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 8:37 am

Safe in the bosom of wickedness
Rocked in the arms of selfish defeat

The wind whispers their names
Heard only by those in hopeless retreat

They’re spoon fed and neat
Dressed only to be seen

There’s starlight dancing in the sky.
A lonely reminder of what could have been.

There’s cash a plenty
Thou satisfy the Servile’s might

Tis only the moonlight warming the cold dark nights
Not the love of bairns lost to the fight

Tue 7th July 2015

Interesting article on Equal Shared-Care

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 1:20 pm


Mon 6th July 2015

Inside the mind of a victim

Filed under: General — triassic @ 10:04 pm

Yo feminists, remember when you preached about Rihanna being a typical victim of male violence when she and Chris Brown had an intimate partner altercation? Remember how you slagged off Chris as a tyrant? We’ll take a look at the mind of that victim in this video created and directed by Rihanna.
“Bitch-better-have-my-money” Reveals the violence and anger lying below that cute lady’s exterior. Much the same way it lies beneath a lot of these so called lady victims.

Truth is that these violent women provoke violent attacks on themselves and quite often precipitate the same violence on the male partner but in their rage forget they don’t have the strength to have the desired result.

Rihanna is a very talented and creative girl and this latest creation of hers gives us concrete evidence that you don’t need balls to have a violent nature lurking beneath.

Sun 5th July 2015

The Silverspoon Sisterhood

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 9:36 am

There is a lot that could be said about the recent deaths of a mother and three children in Ashburton. You could hardly be blamed for thinking ‘oh no, not another Ed Livingstone‘ when this story initially went to air.

There is something a little more sinister afoot (a foot in mouth that is) around this story now: Source:


Sat 4th July 2015

More research showing the importance of fathers

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:21 am

This article was interesting: Moms, Let Dad Be Dad It raises questions about the adequacy of all those parenting assessments done mainly by female psychologists in Family Court with misguided assumptions about what constitutes good parenting and bonding. (It goes without saying that most of those assessments found the mothers to be superior and were often used to further deprive children of their father’s role…)

Another observation we make with respect to this research was that it was done by a female, and the journalist who reported it was also female. It’s encouraging to see women prioritize reasoning and the pursuit of truth over self-serving feminist ideology. However, it’s also a sad indictment on our era that when it comes to families, parenting and even fatherhood, research and reasoning are much more likely to attract media coverage when undertaken by women. Men’s perspectives and wisdom continues to be generally ignored by mainstream media, though we are starting to see some signs of change.

Fri 3rd July 2015

The most bizarre men’s rights campaigns

Filed under: General — pcObelix @ 4:50 pm

I do not see anything bizarre about any of these campaigns

Bizarre men’s rights

Forced to relocate overseas

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 2:10 pm


Judge brings malicious case (male assault female case) to an early close.


Oh Dear, and we were told violence is a male problem!

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 1:06 pm

Woman in custody over Wellington stabbing spree
Hark, did I hear some hint of concern from Women’s Refuge, Shine, White Ribbon and the many other male-blaming feminist groups about this family violence? No, I must have been mistaken, that was just the sound of them sipping tea as they discuss their next campaign to convince the population that only men commit violence worth worrying about and violence only matters when it’s done towards women.

New Deputy Leader for New Zealand First

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:00 pm


Ron Mark having recently re-entered politics has secured the deputy leadership of New Zealand First in a ‘not-so-secret’ coup, that predicted the outcome before the event.

The eventual leadership of New Zealand First under Mark has been discussed on Menz before as has the possibilities that might eventuate from his stewardship rather than the current leader Winston Petering out fast.

The word is that it was the sacred cow of Peters, democracy itself, rising from within the Party, that delivered a blow to the iron reign Peters has kept for so long.

A NZ First lead by Mark may offer:

the possibility for a better hearing of Men’s Issues

a real threat to the Girls Party NZ Labour

and a platform for another of the politically disillusioned Jones Boy to return from sabbatical in the Pacific.

Food for thought?

Wed 1st July 2015

Courts are busy and serious places, and judges are busy people

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — MurrayBacon @ 4:34 pm

Courts are busy and serious places, and judges are busy people

Man rebuked for claiming to be ‘fictional entity’ in court

2:11 PM Wednesday Jul 1, 2015

A man who fell off a moped and said his identity was a fiction created by the State has been rebuked for trying to be “funny” in an unusual court judgement.


Sat 27th June 2015

Child support

Filed under: General — Mikey @ 11:40 am

My experience with child support as a paying parent has been an utter nightmare. For one, my daughters are constantly being told by their mother that I do not pay enough. The Ird letters and assessments are shown to my kids, so they are fully involved in the financial battles. This has created conflict between my children and myself.
Then any money that goes to their mother is gobbled up by alcohol and smokes and my daughters do not get any child support anyway. If in fact school books and uniforms are bought, my children ask me for extra money, which I refuse because child support is meant to cover this. Again I look like the arse hole. Anything that is bought from the child support money never comes from from me in the eyes of my children and their mother takes all the credit of any purchases. There was a time when I was on the bones of my arse on the DPB, where I had to prove over a period of three months that the children were in shared care, for me not to pay child support. Whilst a telephone call from their mother to the ird was proof enough that they were not in shared care.
Whilst I was recording these times on spreadsheet the ird literally took money in a lump sum from my bank account over night without informing me.
I moved countries. Child support deducts contact time, so it is greatly reduced. However the mother of my children does not accept contact time being part of child support. So every year I have to go to a review to change it, having to keep receipts to prove what I have spent.
Annual income assessments are fictitiously created by the ird if the proof of income is not submitted. This means that they are telling me how much I have earned and how much child support I have to pay. Interest and penalties are added on top of the “made-up” earnings. The mother of my children is rubbing her hands to get hold of this money and when she gets notified that in fact I do not earn this, again I am the arsehole to my children.
Not only has child support created utter war between myself and my ex, it is part of the cause of my daughters not seeing me in five years.
And when a child refuses to see you with full support of the mother, should you pay any child support at all?
My answer is no. But the ird do not care if you have no contact, so it is ok for the mother to have all time and say with your children and take your money as well.
If there is in fact a satan on earth, it would be the ird. To use this system as a form of their own business ventures, charging interest an penalties, as if it were a loan that they are giving you is sick. I cannot wait until my daughter reaches the age over the limit and then I in capital letters… “I” can finally spoil her and her mother can go to hell and buy her own smokes and alcohol.

Another Diplomatic Offending Situation, where is the feminist outrage?

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:29 am

Apparently, the wife of the Indian High Commissioner has assaulted a male staff member. There are significant parallels here with the recent case of the Malaysian diplomat accused of some kind of assault. However, there will be one major difference: we won’t hear a whisper from the feminists in objection to how it was managed. (more…)

Wed 24th June 2015

IRD Payments

Filed under: Child Support — midnighthauler @ 3:58 pm

I have just been notified by my sons school who I have had know contact with since Jan, that he has decided to leave and has a job. He is in process of completing sign out papers (not sure how long that takes, if anyone can enlighten me). He is taking on a full time job but I am not privy to that information. My battle will continue with IRD and payments I bet even if and when I inform them.

They rang the other day and I lost the plot and said to poor girl on ph its a wonder us dads want to commit suicide due to the constant harassment from you. Not long after hanging up the police arrived on my doorstep to assess my state of mind. If its not ph calls then its letters in the mail and it is wearing me down.

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