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Sat 16th April 2016


Filed under: General — sharingiscaring @ 3:42 pm


On May 11th I have the final custody hearing for my children. My ex-Japanese wife has interim custody as I work. In over 3 years of custody struggle I have presented 58 offers of peace and sharing. All have been rejected by her and her Japanese boyfriend.

17 times this year she has blocked access in violation of the Court Order. The Police are not interested.The Courts are so busy it is near impossible to get time with a Judge.

I have no money and am representing myself.

Can someone please provide some Case Precedents where :

Custody has been given to the father because the mother refused to share and abide by Orders of the Court.

Yours faithfully,

Thu 14th April 2016

International Child Abduction

Filed under: General — allan harvey @ 2:00 pm

The issue of Child Abduction across borders is in the news again.

I also see that the story of Dr Elizabeth Morgan and her now adult daughter was discussed by Murray well known axe murderer this morning as well. The daughter Elena Mitrano is deeply scarred by her childhood experiences and the alienation of her father.

In NZ we also have the Kay Skelton saga which the Family Court in the end released significant information about after 7 years of effective support for the wrong side of righteouness. The NZ court also got it right in the Bianca Ormsby v Adam Thomas matter as well. Take care believing what Bianca and her supporters spin about this story. The ability for mum to have contact in a similar way to Kay Skelton exists because Dad is prepared to allow that to happen.

The Hague Convention is a good tool and the idea of dragging children across borders to remove their right to contact with both parents needs to be identified as madness and wrong.

Mon 11th April 2016

Public trust in NZ’s judical system

Filed under: General — allan harvey @ 12:06 pm

Colmar Brunton have done a survey of 1000 NZers, Who Do We Trust.
27% of respondents said their level of trust in judges and the courts had fallen cf 10% who said their levels had risen.
35% had complete or lots of trust in judges and the courts. 17% had little (14%) or no trust (3%). The majority had some trust 48%.
Younger people (45% of 18-29 year olds) had more trust 45% whereas those aged over 30 were more distrusting with only 31% having complete or a lot of trust. in the court process. Is that the voice of experience?
However the most startling result is based on household income. Those with $100,000 or more coming in were more assured 49% having complete or a lot of trust cf just 27% for those of us with incomes of $70,000 or less. I was somewhat surprised that the results for those on incomes of $30,000 or less was no different than those of us with average household incomes.
Does this reflect that those reliant on legal aid have found judges and the courts fail them? It seems to show higher satisfaction for those with an ability to pay for legal workers to successfully lead them through the maize of bureaucracy. Is this a concern? Maybe “blind justice” is peeking behind her blindfold?

Sun 10th April 2016

Unsupported child benefit – impact on child support

Filed under: General — BF1972 @ 11:39 am

Hi all

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of the impact of a child going onto an unsupported child benefit and how it then impacts on your child support liability? Does it reduce (as the child is no longer in the other parents care) or do IRD look to recover the benefit from either or both of the parents?



Fri 8th April 2016

CYF Changes are Mainly Privatization

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,Sex Abuse / CYF — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 8:32 am

While it may seem satisfying to see CYF clobbered for failing our children and families, there seems little in the proposed changes that will improve matters. The changes are in line with the National government’s privatization agenda that it has already applied significantly to prisons and schools and is seeping by stealth into health and most other government services. (more…)

Sun 3rd April 2016

Remembering Jim Bagnall

Filed under: Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — JohnPotter @ 7:33 pm

A farewell will be held at Morrison’s Funeral Home, 220 Universal Drive, Henderson, at 3.00pm this Thursday, 7 April 2016. This will be an opportunity to pay a tribute and share anecdotes with a cup of tea. Jim was always adamant he didn’t want a religious funeral, but I’m sure he’ll cope with a few of us getting together to celebrate his life. After all, he tolerated a dinner to honor his achievements back in 2013.

There will also be an (unofficial) Dedication of the Bagnall Knoll Opposite Waitakere Court on Friday 29th April at 1pm followed by a meal at the local Valentine’s Restaurant.

For those of you who can’t make it to either of these events, or perhaps don’t know much about Jim’s contribution to the New Zealand Fathers’ Rights movement, I’ve gathered together a few photos and videos of him in action.

Jim Bagnall in Albany - November 2015

Jim Bagnall in Albany – November 2015


Sat 2nd April 2016

Jim Bagnall Died This Morning

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 2:42 pm

Jim Bagnall passed away this morning after a long illness. He will be sadly missed by the many people he helped and those he campaigned with. There will be no public funeral but a dedication will be held on 29th April. FYI, Ministry of Men’s Affairs news release today:

The Pussy Pass is an Old-Fashioned Thing

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 1:49 pm

This story in today’s NZ Herald shows how the pussy pass was the norm 50 years ago. Marjorie Ellingham poisoned food that she served to guests and this was later assumed to be a way of covering up her own suicide. She gave herself much more arsenic than she put in the others’ food, presumably so her death would look like food poisoning that had not killed the others. Apparently, she had been experimenting for some time feeding others doses of arsenic. A young son of her guests ended up dying after eating her arsenic-laced food. (more…)

Fri 1st April 2016

Is the police force politicised and out of control?

Filed under: General — triassic @ 11:03 am

The answer to that lies within the Opotiki courts case regarding young men and under aged girls indulging in sex acts. Judge Louis Bidois shows great wisdom in the handling of the case and is to be commended for such. The girls in this case have ended up being collateral damage due to Police policy that holds a belief (communists and other totalitarian regimes do so) that the ‘ends justifies the means’. Before Helen Clark politicised the force wisdom would be used in police investigations of this nature. Now there is zero wisdom and hence we see bigotry and ignorance operating at a high level. The only way to climb the ladder in the Police Force is to be female or a eunuch. The NZ police force is just a tool of feminist bull shit and has lost its credibility as a servant of the whole community.

So.. Women Should Not Be Punished For Breaking The Law?

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 8:50 am

In our opinion NZ media spend far too much time on the US ‘primaries’ (that many media incorrectly refer to as ‘the presidential race’). We guess it’s cheap and NZ media have lucked in when it comes to Donald Trump because he can be quite entertaining.

The Trump issue that arose yesterday highlighted some frightening trends. Trump expressed his opinion that if abortion were to be made illegal then women who procure abortions should be punished. This apparently was so unacceptable to women that he soon recanted and decided that only the abortionist should be punished. That is the first frightening thing, that feminism can stifle reasoning and opinion so readily that even the chest-beating Donald Trump is humbled. (Probably not a good move for Trump either, to be seen as so spineless and unauthentic…)

Women make up 53% of US voters so politicians can’t afford to say too much that would turn them off. But really, if most women would be turned off by the idea that women should be punished for breaking the law, we see how unequal and dangerous feminism truly is. (more…)

Tue 22nd March 2016

2nd Meeting with Chief Human Rights Commissioner

Filed under: Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:50 pm

FYI, our media release:

A Community Group because successive governments have neglected the voice and welfare of New Zealand men

Media Release

Human Rights Commission Agrees Men’s Rights are Important Too

Chief Human Rights Commissioner David Rutherford has emphasized that human rights for males are as important as those for women and other groups.

A meeting in December 2015 between Mr Rutherford and representatives of NZ men’s groups and services identified areas in which men’s human rights have been neglected in NZ. The meeting recognized that in the drive to improve rights for women and other groups traditionally seen as disadvantaged, men’s welfare has been forgotten.

At a follow-up meeting in February 2016 plans were considered to include men’s issues in future reports to the UN about New Zealand’s human rights record.

Spokesman for one of the groups involved, Hans Laven from community group the Ministry of Men’s Affairs (MoMA) described the meetings as ‘historic’.

‘It’s reassuring that our HRC through Mr Rutherford has acknowledged that men and boys are in trouble as shown by high suicide and imprisonment rates, and that gender equity is as much a human right for men as for women’ Mr Laven said.

Other men’s issues seen as needing attention included gender inequality in sentencing and treatment under our justice system and family court, gender-specific laws that disadvantage men, the provision of refuge and other support services for men, and the need to evaluate new laws for their impact on men’s rights and welfare as much as women’s.

Another men’s representative who attended, Craig Jackson, said that NZ has an opportunity to once again lead the world in addressing a neglected area of human rights for half the nation’s population, just as it did a century ago regarding women’s suffrage.

Thu 17th March 2016

Why Have a ‘Positive Women’ Campaign for HIV?

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:00 am

In the news yesterday was a video of Carolyn Brooker ‘explaining’ why she is supporting a campaign called ‘Positive Women’ after losing her daughter to AIDS. From the Positive Women campaign: “We aim to provide a support network for women and families living with HIV or AIDS”. A 2010 review of services supporting those with HIV quoted Positive Women also describing their mission as being “to identify ways to empower women to go forward’. (more…)

Wed 16th March 2016

Radio NZ Breached Broadcasting Standard

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:46 pm

FYI, our media release:

A Community Group because successive governments have neglected the voice and welfare of New Zealand men
PO Box 13130, Tauranga 3141
Contact Hans Laven (07)5712435 or (0274)799745; hans@xnet.co.nz
or Kerry Bevin (021)269 8353

Media Release: 07 March 2016

Radio NZ Careless about Domestic Violence Figures

The Broadcasting Standards Authority (BSA) has upheld a complaint that Radio NZ broadcast incorrect statistics about family violence deaths. The incorrect figures claimed that more than twice as many women than men are being killed by family members in New Zealand. Authoritative figures show that almost as many men are killed as women.

Radio NZ relied on old figures published by the Ministry for Social Development that were unreferenced as to their origin. The BSA found that Radio NZ did not take reasonable efforts to ensure their broadcast was accurate. The BSA noted that Radio NZ also ignored a listener’s efforts to point out the figures were wrong.

Hans Laven from community group the Ministry of Men’s Affairs (MoMA) also criticized the Ministry for Social Development for continuing to publish the misleading figures.

‘I have written several times to the Ministry for Social Development (MSD) asking them to amend their figures to make clear they are not current and may never have been accurate, but MSD replied they are happy to keep publishing them’ Mr Laven said.

Mr Laven accused both Radio NZ and MSD of failing in their social responsibility by spreading misinformation that discounts male victims and harms NZ men.

Mr Laven warned that efforts to reduce family violence would be unsuccessful unless based on a realistic understanding of the problem. He called for Radio NZ to issue a correction and an apology to the many male victims of domestic violence.

Sun 13th March 2016

Men’s High Imprisonment Just Because They’re Bad

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 7:34 pm

The headline item on One News today was about a group of lawyers who asked the Waitangi Tribunal to hear a case that high Maori imprisonment and reimprisonment rates reflect racism. The Tribunal has fast-tracked an urgent hearing to deal with this travesty.

The elephant in the room of course is that the difference between male vs female imprisonment and reimprisonment rates is much greater than any racial differences. So it seems that high Maori imprisonment rates are due to racism but high male rates are because men are just bad bastards.

We know that the only gender-specific laws in NZ discriminate against men, such that an assault committed by a man towards a woman has twice the punishment for exactly the same assault committed by a woman, and that deliberately killing a baby or young child can only lead to a murder prosecution and punishment for men while women have their own special crime for this providing a maximum of three years imprisonment, rarely given. However, we’re not aware of any race-specific law that similarly discriminates against Maori. We also know that good research has shown significant anti-male sexism in our justice system regarding prosecutions and sentencing, but is there similar evidence that Maori are more likely to be charged more often and sentenced more harshly than other races for the same crimes? Never mind, as was the case for the UN ‘special rapporteur’ who came to NZ about two years ago to bemoan our racist society, sexism disadvantaging men is fine and can be ignored.

Sat 12th March 2016

The Gender-Bender

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 5:16 am

This is part of a post from A Voice For Men

Lies Men Are Fed

Section: “There is no “I’ in team”

This aphorism is used to promote selflessness and sacrifice in the common interest. Those that typically end up sacrificing the most are men. It is a false platitude exactly because every member of a team isn’t equally useful, ever.

Are the men that bring in all the new business at a large multi-national corporation as valuable as the women in the HR and compliance departments processing trumped up sexual harassment cases and making sure everyone has their top button done up? Are all the men that bring in new business equal? Of course not; there are star performers there are grunts, and there is dead wood.

To me, this is where we derail ourselves both as men and socially, but an excellent example of how the Gender-War has become a Gender-Bender.

This concept of men, suggests that their finer qualities should be arrogance, selfishness and greed. As a social model, the end game, can only be a failure, because it sets men up to fail.

You take away their freedom, their opportunity to learn and grow, and to build an identity.

It comes about by ridiculous comparisons to try to re-establish male identity, and confusing the process of business that gives a man his job and that opportunity, not an opportunity.

As for the ‘I’ in team. Every ‘I’ should have a clear understanding of what is required of him.

Some will fail.
Some will be slower than others.
Some may be promoted past their level of competence.
Some will shine.

If male leaders can’t understand why sensible women would rail against the concept being promoted in this article by a Voice For Men, then I think we (men) really do have a problem.

If this is the American Way, the way A Voice for Men wants to go, Menz should seriously reconsider its promotion of this organisation.

To put it bluntly, this is not a voice for men, and it is the lie we are being told.

Fri 11th March 2016

Common Ground

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 8:01 pm

There’s a story here, perhaps it’s a little off topic for men’s issues, but it does relate to fathers.

There was a dread of course that I could just as easily be another phone call to the control room, which fortunately never happened, or I could be the one making that phone call, and that was never far from my mind.

Wed 9th March 2016

A Hate Story

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:37 am

Her father was a man in uniform. That’s what she longed for, a husband just like him.

She found him, the one she wanted, and was immediately pregnant.

He didn’t mind the sex, but he wasn’t ready for a wife.

She never saw him again and aborted their child.

She liked male attention, (more…)

Fri 4th March 2016

Flat-line Editing

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 7:15 am

Have you heard of flat-line editing before?

Neither have I, but here is how I see it working. (Following on from Deconstructing Feminism)

Flat line across the page, with a zone above and below the line. The flat line is the line of incompetence. Walking along this line should get you fired for incompetence in the role.

Above the line is all things good, the professional zone – factual, accurate etc. – the things we would expect from an editor. Below the line is not the opposite; It is not all things bad

Below the line (more…)

Thu 3rd March 2016

Deconstructing Feminism

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 8:24 am

This post follows on from End The Gender War.

If I was to put Feminism in an ideological/political category, I’d go for totalitarian, and for that reason you cannot be ‘a man’ in a society of this nature. That eventually is completely taken away from you, and you only need look at some of the young males who are a product of our society today, to see this as a reality.

In the previous post I said:

If you do not understand your enemy, you put yourself at a great disadvantage.

What was the starting point that Feminism adopted? (more…)

Wed 2nd March 2016

End the Gender War

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 1:36 pm

There are many battle fronts against Feminism in this Gender War, but rarely do we see visible weapons and we struggle to recognise the source of the violence, this creeping violence, this increasing violence, this social violence that plagues our society, seemingly without explanation.

Without explanation, or by concealing the explanation, of course men will get the blame, we always do.

For men Feminism is (more…)

Tue 1st March 2016

The Vulnerable Children Act: another law that discriminates against men.

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:04 pm

The Vulnerable Children Act (2014) requires regulated organisations receiving any government funding to assess the risk of all employees applying for jobs working with children, and every three years all existing employees who work with children. The assessment includes police vetting on each occasion. (more…)

The “I’m Cranky” Speech

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 2:35 pm

Many years ago Australian Lawyer Michael Green came to New Zealand to promote his book.

I don’t recall the name of the book, but I do recall the speech he gave in Wellington.

The “I’m Cranky” speech. (more…)

Fri 26th February 2016

Recent Cases Show Feminist Ideology is Unsafe

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts,Sex Abuse / CYF,White Ribbon Campaign — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 12:23 pm

Recent cases highlight the danger our society, or at least the male half, faces under current approaches to violence. The case of Shona Maiden was one. She gave her false account of events to police and even went to news media with photos of her son cuddling her and appeared on tv with convincing tears giving the same account, that a man had punched her after she told him to f-off when he criticized her for speaking te reo. News media misrepresented even her account by claiming he assaulted her for speaking te reo, and generally took a white-knight approach in support of this abused damsel (see the MENZ Issues post ‘What Scumbag Would Do This?’). She said on public media that she had lost 5 teeth and had a plate in her mouth cracked, but she wrote on her Facebook page about 3 teeth on one occasion and 2 teeth on another and not about a cracked plate. After she was charged on the basis of the CCTV evidence she told news interviewers that she stood by her account and had told the truth!

The point here is that Shona Maiden believed herself to be a blameless victim of a male’s violence. She believed it so fully that she told the whole country through news media and she still appeared to believe it even after the CCTV evidence proved otherwise. (more…)

Thu 25th February 2016

Feminist Judgment

Filed under: Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:33 am

This Radio NZ article broadcast on Monday 22 Feb left our mouths hanging open. It was called ‘Feminist Judges’ and described a project funded by the Law Foundation (to the tune of $38,000) paying Elisabeth McDonald (Victoria University) and Rhonda Powell (Canterbury University) to re-write or get others to re-write judgments in a way that might be done by feminist judges. The ‘Feminist Judgments Project Aotearoa’ is part of an international movement that re-writes judgments by looking at feminist arguments that Courts often overlook. (more…)

Wed 24th February 2016

Don’t Assault a Politician if You’re Male

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 7:10 am

Josie Butler threw a dildo at the face of Steven Joyce. That assault subjected Joyce to risk of injury. If it had landed differently it could have caused an eye, mouth or tooth injury, unlikely to have been serious but not impossible. Ms Butler’s cause was confused, not based on personal trauma, and she justified it to herself with some inane comparison to rape. Media made great mirth from her violent offence and there was barely any recognition that it was violence that deserved the same disapproval as any other violence. She wasn’t charged for her crime. (more…)

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