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Mon 15th December 2008

The law and men …. how bad is it?

Filed under: Law & Courts — Julie @ 8:11 am

There was a time when I believed that justice may be blind but surely it is not dumb. I figured (naively) that students actually studied the law and that all people were protected under it. In a funny way it was like a security blanket and I got on with life believing that the law had my interests at heart and that of my family and friends.

I guess, the child within me wants to continue to believe this … but as I get smacked around the head with reality from time to time, I find myself in disgust of the world I live in.

How can it be that lobby groups have more control of the way the world works than ordinary working class people? How can lobby groups have more power than politicians or judges? Ho Hum, woe is me to live in a world with no fairness! …. But I am the lucky sex. I should not be complaining. After all, the feminists have made darn sure that I won’t be suffering by the law! You see, I am of the more favoured sex because the feminists worked hard decades ago to make sure we gained plenty of resources today to fight the evil in the world known as masculinity/man/Patriarchy.

“Not enough men are serving time for rape”, say my sisters. And thy mighty lobbying will make sure the criminal court follows a quota system next year and the following year the quota amount will be upped and the following year until not one man will even have the right to a trial.

Crickeys!

I remember the grumbling over the fact that police were given quotas and they had to fine so many people each week else they lost their job. That really hurt!!!! But, just imagine a court system having to follow quotas. You’d be hoping the judge liked you or that they had enough guilty before you went up. Just imagine the judge knowing that 6 cases were going to be presented to him in a week and 5 have to be found guilty. Could you possibly be the lucky one out of 5? What ever happened to a fair trial. You are meant to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. you know! …….. The law is not designed for quotas.

But then look at little further down the track. What will happen when the police are held accountable to quotas over rape and they have the power to judge you right there and then on the spot? Imagine what sort of a promotion you will get to throw every man in prison on rape charges.

…………………

I can’t help but have my stomach in knots over this. How can you stop such horrible and evil power when you can’t even hold women’s affairs accountable for resources? How can you tell a world that this money you give to protect women is mostly given to lobby groups to terminate men? How can you show the world that gender studies is all about empowering women through the hatred of men?

“All men are rapists” is what the lecturers say. “All men are rapists” is what the feminists say when in positions of power in the community, councils, parliament, unions and human rights. “All men are rapists”, is what they teach lawyers and judges. “All men are rapists” is what the police feminists say as they climb the ladder enabling them to direct the whole force.

I ask you this dear reader; ARE ALL MEN RAPISTS? Are 50% of men rapists? Are 25%? 10%, 1%?

Look around you. How many of your male neighbours have raped? How many of your sons and grandsons have raped? How many of our fathers rape their daughters? What about your brothers; How many women have they raped? And your friends? Cousins? What about your husband?

What about the stranger walking into you office asking for representation or assistance? How do you really know he is guilty?

10 Responses to “The law and men …. how bad is it?”

  1. Alastair says:

    You are right Julie. Rape can depend on the definition used. I read some years ago that a female who agrreed, even encouraged the act could change her mind at a later date. It automatically became rape on her word alone.

    Don’t for get we are getting/Have got “On the spot protection Orders” Where the police become Judge, Jury, and executioner to destroy a family.

    Does all of this lead to Quota’s and competions. We already have the cop who set out to issue 100 speeding tickets in an 8 hour day! He succeeded, but did it held road safety? Imagine the competion, Free beer (And other substances?) for whoever issues the most on the spot orders on a saturday night. Is this Justice?

  2. perseus says:

    It is all about money and power, the normal games for politicians. 100 daily police speeding tickets are to raise cash for the local council and a percentage will go to the policemans’ ball. In a similar vain, fathers will raise more money for the government if they are separated from their kids, they will work harder if you take their kids from them and give them an incentive to work.

    If dads wanted to look after the kids too, who would do the work, they would be wanting DPB next ! The new On-The-Spot-Protection-Orders will make more angry men, what we need is trends to change, then something may be done, maybe the murder rate will increase. “Domestic Violence” is what is created NOT prevented , by confiscating fathers’ kids, house, making him pay child tax, throwing him on the street, by encouraging false allegations of violence

  3. Dave says:

    One thing that shocked me many years ago was the standard line from feminists that every man can be a rapist. The feminist logic is that every man has a penis and therefore every man is capable of rape.

    The feminists don’t appear to view males as having feelings or emotions (other than anger and rage). Feminists have conditioned themselves into thinking that males are sub-human. It is just the same mentality that early European explorers had towards natives they “discovered” and/or slaves they owned.

  4. Alastair says:

    I wonder how the Fems would rationalise Briar Dravitski and the like.

  5. julie says:

    Thank-you for the comments. I read a comment on a men’s site that hit hard.

    A man went out on a date with a female lawyer who had worked at the UN.

    standyourground

    It is a very scary world.

    And then I saw these pictures. A picture says a lot and especially the one with a cop holding down a guy and feminist saying, “Putting men in their place, one deadbeat at a time”

    Hunting for Archetypes

  6. SANTA CLAUS says:

    Estranged husband shoots wife dead
    IS THERE A BETTER SOLUTION THAN PROTECTION ORDERS, just a thought ? (piece of paper)

    Georgina Robinson
    December 17, 2008 – 9:05AM

    SYDNEY HERALD TODAY
    Shot dead … Melissa Cook.
    Latest related coverage

    A woman who was fatally gunned down by her estranged husband in Sydney’s southwest last night had taken out an apprehended violence order against him, police said.

    Just after 4pm yesterday, John Kudrytch, 39, walked into the BP service station on the Hume Highway at Casula and fatally shot his wife, 29-year-old Melissa Cook, who was working there.

    Four hours later police found Kudrytch dead inside the couple’s former home on Pine Road, just one kilometre down the road from the service station.

    Police say it appears that Kudrytch shot himself.

    Cook died shortly after being taken to Liverpool Hospital.

    Police have confirmed that Cook had taken out an apprehended violence order against her estranged husband, from whom she was separated and in the process of divorcing.

    A spokesman last night said “domestic violence issues” had come to the attention of police in the past.

    It is not yet known when the AVO was granted or what conditions it stipulated.

    The murder-suicide was the result of a domestic dispute, police said.

    Neighbour Carina Olivos said Cook and Kudrytch had been together for seven or eight years and moved in together three years ago.

    Ms Olivos said Cook had told her recently of the couple’s separation, saying she was “free” and didn’t want anything from Kudrytch, just the chance to “start a new life”.

    Cook was an employee of the BP service station on the corner of Pine Road and the Hume Highway.

    It has been reported that yesterday was her day off and she went in to cover for a colleague but a BP spokesman would not confirm that.

    Police said Kudrytch walked into the petrol station and shot Cook in the chest about 4.15pm, before leaving the store.

    Police said they arrived shortly after and conducted CPR on the 29-year-old until paramedics arrived.

    She was taken to Liverpool Hospital in a critical condition but died a short time later after emergency surgery.

    BP Australia released a statement about the female employee’s death and said they are cooperating with police in their investigation.

    “Following a shooting incident at the BP service station … BP Australia expresses deep sadness that one of our employees was fatally wounded in the incident,” the statement said.

    “The company expresses its sincere condolences to the family of the employee following this tragic incident.”

    The statement said BP are providing support and counselling to the employees working at the service station, which they have also offered to Cook’s family.

    Last night police surrounded the couple’s former home in Pine Road, Casula, where Kudrytch still lived. It was believed he had gone there after the shooting.

    Neighbouring homes were evacuated as officers from the Tactical Operations Unit, State Crime Command’s Homicide Squad, and NSW Ambulance officers were called in and tried to make contact with Kudrytch.

    Just after 8.30pm, State Protection Group officers went into the house and found the 39-year-old dead inside.

    Police said it appears he died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    Reports will be prepared on the deaths for the NSW Coroner.

    – with Peter Hawkins

  7. NCP says:

    The law and men …. how bad is it? PRETTY BAD I SAY…

    12 Dec Automatic Payment Inland Revenue 64.40
    Ncp

  8. Alastair says:

    For those of you having troubles with IRD review officers a database of them has been proposed on Pauls-news

  9. perseus says:

    I wonder if she had made false allegations of domestic violence THAT most of them do ?
    The strangest thing for me, is why MOST men in his position DON’T DO THE SAME THING, with the extreme injustice that usually goes with these orders. Kicking a man out of his home and stopping him seeing his children CAUSES domestic violence and makes things MUCH MUCH worse, when will these idiots realise that ?

  10. perseus says:

    Re Estrangeed Husband shoots wife dead

    I wonder if she had made false allegations of domestic violence THAT most of them do ?
    The strangest thing for me, is why MOST men in his position DON’T DO THE SAME THING, with the extreme injustice that usually goes with these orders. Kicking a man out of his home and stopping him seeing his children CAUSES domestic violence and makes things MUCH MUCH worse, when will these idiots realise that ?

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