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Fri 21st April 2017

Promoting the Lucrative Industry of Prostitution

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 12:22 pm

Have you noticed the recent campaign across all media to increase the status and acceptability of prostitution (well, only female prostitution)?

This article is just one of many recent articles providing ‘findings’ and commentary that appear to be aimed at normalizing and sanitizing prostitution.

We wonder if brothel owners are paying for these articles in some way. This seems likely given the challenges facing media businesses and their reduction in standards, including product placement advertising and blurring boundaries between advertisements and news articles. Alternatively, perhaps the articles are being produced by femaleist groups who recognize the huge economic advantages yet to be gained for women through the sexual power that nature has given them.

We have no essential objection to prostitution but we would like to see realistic consumer protection law and a code of ethics for that ‘profession’ including customer privacy, fair trading and adequate warnings to customers about the risks of using the services. We would like to see increase in the workforce and therefore competition to bring down the ridiculously high fees charged by these essentially unqualified people.

The recent waves of pro-prostitution articles of course don’t consider much in the way of the real problems and issues related to this industry.

13 Responses to “Promoting the Lucrative Industry of Prostitution”

  1. golfa says:

    So let’s get this straight ….. You don’t object to hookers, you just wish there were more of them and that they were cheaper ?

  2. Evan Myers says:

    Are they GST registered?

    Do they supply an invoice.

    If sex is an essential part of a working man’s life, as the article suggests, is this a legitimate expense.

  3. Evan Myers says:

    With the state of familial relationships we have today, there are a variety of scenarios not excluding the possibility a young man could find himself in the position of having paid for sex with his mother.

  4. Ministry of Men's Affairs says:

    Good questions Evan Myers! As in many other respects, when it comes to contributing tax the prostitution industry probably remains outside positive social contribution. Many prostitutes now work as sole practitioners from home and get paid in cash that they are highly unlikely to declare, and this will often be in addition to being on a state benefit paid by us all and/or by some man or men previously encouraged to impregnate them.

    While it may be challenging for the authorities to detect tax fraud by prostitutes the main reason for a lack of detection will be favouritism towards women.

    In a brothel some customers will pay through bank cards and it may be that the prostitutes receive some payment in a way that requires them to pay tax. However, brothels may still charge a lower amount for access to the prostitute and leave her to operate as an independent contractor charging the customer for the actual services.

    We would be interested to hear from anyone who knows something of the industry to clarify how things are operating these days regarding charging, tax, employment contracts etc.

    The idea that men need sexual release is well-founded, but little different from other basic needs that won’t be tax deductible. The idea that men need prostitutes for sex is one invented by the industry.

  5. Evan Myers says:

    I don’t agree with your favoritism towards women statement.

    The IRD held industry meetings prior to the introduction of the legislation.

    It was then the single biggest group of delinquent clients.

    They were chasing the big money paid by the business and criminal sectors.

    The economics of chasing mobile Asians offering $40 quickies for the tax element isn’t there.

    You could look at women who offer sex for say a weekend holiday and receive a high value fringe-benefit, but no money.

    Especially if the weekend was already tax deductible?

  6. Man X Norton says:

    Evan Myers @5: Favouritism towards women is ubiquitous in NZ and will apply to IRD as much as every other authority. Just look at the outcome of most so-called ‘child support’ reviews!

    We have read nothing in media about prostitutes being pulled up for tax avoidance, but quite often we read about IRD targeting tradesMEN.

    As for $40 quickies, I don’t believe that is the norm in the prostitution industry. Hundreds of dollars per hour is usual. This one, for example, charges $550 per hour. And due to a need for secrecy for many customers, most payment to prostitutes will be in cash.

  7. Evan Myers says:

    Ubiquitous, is an acceptance of the eyes and a failure of the mind.

    I don’t agree with the direction from which you approach this.

    Child Support decisions are Family Court Decisions conveniently avoided by referring them to an Officer of The Court hiding in the Revenue Department.

  8. Man X Norton says:

    Evan Myers, what direction would you approach it from?

  9. Downunder says:

    I can see what Evan is getting at.

    You have suggested in the first instance that the IRD shows favouratism towards woman, based on child support reviews.

    Child Support judgements over a man’s finances are written by an officer of the Family Court and are appealed to a judge of the Family Court.

    The blame is wrongly attributed to the revenue department.

    I agree the majority of payments will be in cash, but of low value. There will be less transactions as the value increases.

    The value of transactions may include travel, airfares, drugs, vehicles, trades services, accommodation, and many other forms of payment.

    Would you prefer the IRD pursue the residential underclass of the industry, or shall we say the minge-benefits of the high end of the market?

  10. Man X Norton says:

    Yeah, yeah, sure thing. The IRD doesn’t show any favouritism towards women. Just ask any male who has spoken to the almost entirely female staff at the IRD so-called ‘child support’ help line and I’m sure they will support this. The example of female-favouring administrative reviews, concerning which we have heard on MENZ Issues from many male victims, was only one of many examples. Favouritism is shown towards women in every sphere. Compassion towards women is on average much more prevalent than compassion towards men is.

    Cash payments to prostitutes are definitely not ‘low value’ as shown by the article I linked. Other recent articles promoting what a great social contribution prostitution is also indicate the money is very good.

    The Clark government’s law changes that legalized prostitution were always based on unrealistic faith in the idea that women are always good and discriminated against. There were grossly insufficient protections for consumers and for society generally. Prostitutes were given great freedom to ply their trade as they wish whereas other industries and even helping professions face numerous rules and restrictions. The Labia Party even seriously considered making it legal for prostitutes to push their vice while making the customers’ purchasing of it illegal. However, this would clearly have limited the industry and therefore women’s wealth so it was decided against.

    I don’t actually know about how prostitutes deal with tax but, as I previously wrote, we don’t hear about them being investigated or caught for evasion yet it’s almost certain that they often get paid in cash and it seems unlikely they declare much of this.

    As for an underclass, some prostitutes may be many are not. I’m not sure that people who earn hundreds of dollars per hour would generally be defined as an underclass. We have recently read personal accounts from several prostitutes who paid their way through university through prostitution or who otherwise found the ‘profession’ to be a thoroughly positive option.

    I’m interested in the basis of the arguments against what seem obvious issues around prostitution. Do they result from female-directed compassion, trolling, or something else?

    By the way, administrative reviews are done by employees of the IRD, not Family Court.

  11. Downunder says:

    It’s not surprising that Family Court judges ditched their robes.

    “State slut in a black dress”

    is the best description I’ve heard of them.

    There’s arguments about selling your soul and arguments about selling your body.

    What in your opinion are the

    obvious issues around prostitution

  12. Downunder says:

    You probably think I’m taking the piss, but let me add this.

    My great grandmother came to New Zealand in the 1860s as a single domestic worker, in the days of

    ‘let’s get a few women to the country’.

    She got married, had a family, her husband died at very early age, and she was left with four children, and by all accounts remained widowed and raised the family through prostitution.

    My mother who had been the daughter of a wealthy businessman probably never in her wildest dreams ever envisaged living next door to a prostitute, but as it turns out she did, and all I can say, is thank God there was a fence between them.

    I doubt these are unique experiences, in New Zealand history, and they may not be yours as it they are mine.

    When you talk about obvious issues to a primarily NZ audience, don’t be surprised if you get a few blank looks.

  13. Jerry says:

    Man x Norton @10; Drawing from my experiences, we could reconsider liberally using the term “Women”. In our case were three females, yet none of them mattered or have been counted in any true sense, let alone helped. Naturally the same applies to me, I was not helped or listened to and had no rights – still don’t. But it seems to me that the real villians are a selection of mostly females, who have extremist anti-male and anti-family agenda’s. They trumpet loud and often about representing “Women’s rights and safety” where as in truth they are exploiting the women for the extremist agenda. When my ex refused to falsely accuse me, they dropped her like a hot spud. Similarly my eldest would not be bent into telling lies either, thats why none of these females are helped or even recognised. So we should realise that the term “Women also captures those females who are innocent and exploited cynically by extremists of their own gender – the same ones who we have trouble with. I just fear that when we use such a general label for the extremists, we also capture some innocents. Its all in the name of that definition defying thing called “Feminist” and including Machiavellian behaviours which are about “Power – and how to keep it”.
    And then with Kelvin Davis as an example – one does not need a uterus to be a feminist.
    So what are the promising possibilities open to us? not many! I feel I should come up with some, but I’m sure if there were many, bright cookies on thhis site would have already thought of them.
    They are using the media and sensationalism [most often without a skerick of truth supporting it – so is there some way to get/establish male friendly media?
    I think we also lack support from males – those who have not yet been knee-capped may well perceive us as attacking their mums.
    Clearly supporting mother’s sons is not a healthy option for the modern political career.
    I think the best we have at present is this site and MOMA.

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