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I posted the following to Kelvin Davis and various labour MP’s

Filed under: General — Miles 64 @ 5:55 pm Sat 22nd April 2017

Dear Mr Davis

I am writing to express general disappointment at your decision not to host the men’s summit in April. Apparently you had made a commitment around Christmas time but then pulled out with the statement “Not only will criticism of feminism NOT be tolerated, even ALMOST criticism will not be tolerated”. For an ex-Primary school Principal this is fairly questionable English!

I personally do not know what happened for you to change your mind. No-one was going to criticise women; the point of the summit was to highlight some of the issues men are increasingly facing every day. No-one begrudges women in their pursuit of what they perceive to be unfairness in society. However when that discontent manifests itself into verbal and literary ‘attacks’ against the male character what are men supposed to do? Accept it?

The media is awash with articles about how evil men are. The Herald has had, almost daily for a period, numerous stories citing women who have been the victims of domestic abuse. The stories are never validated, fictitious names abound and the man’s side of the story is never told. What are we to make of these ‘sagas’? Are they true? Where is the corroborating evidence?

What the media DON’T relate are the equally numerous incidents where women have abused men. Men tend to suffer in silence partly because their complaints are not taken very seriously. And they tend to only make a complaint in extreme cases of violence. Yet there is sufficient evidence to suggest that at least half the incidents of domestic violence are perpetrated by women against men.

Fathers are generally the ones that miss out in custody battles and are, almost exclusively, the ones that can find themselves the recipient of an ex-parte protection order.

Our suicide rate (amongst young men) is 2nd to none in the western world. Don’t you think that alone was reason enough for you to at least attend the summit? What were you afraid of? If you had gone and spoken with conviction about Fatherlessness, youth suicide, PTSS suffered by ex-servicemen, declining education standards of boys (compared to girls), shortage of male Teachers, ……’ how could that be contrary to Labour Party Philosophy? What possible damage could have ensued?

If you had attended you would have gained considerable respect and would have gone part way towards addressing what are real, salient issues for New Zealand men. I fail to see how it could have placed you at odds with your political affiliations? Your support and attendance could very well have boosted the support of a party that was partly founded to address unfairness and exploitation in society


  1. Interesting thing about his Te Tai Tokerau electorate is that it has the lowest ratio of male to female constituents at a ratio of less than 90:100

    I would have thought he would have been interested in male issues and why men are leaving Northland.

    Comment by Downunder — Sat 22nd April 2017 @ 7:04 pm

  2. Generally a good letter and I support it. But was left feeling that it could punch harder if women’s violence towards childrenand other women was counted. The fact is women are at least as violent as males are – if not more so because they know they will get lighter sentences, if they are charged and convicted at all. And of course guilty or not, they get sympathy and support.
    As for school principals, I’m unimpressed by the lot I had dealings with.

    Comment by Jerry — Sat 22nd April 2017 @ 8:47 pm

  3. Thanks Jerry-points noted.
    With regard to making it ‘punch harder’-why don’t you write to Davis and stress the violence issue?

    Comment by Miles 64 — Sat 22nd April 2017 @ 10:08 pm

  4. Good letter and thanks for writing it!

    The politicians haven’t caught up with the building public opinion against feminist propaganda and privilege. They will soon find themselves embarrassed having continued to support a corrupt and destructive ideology well past its obsolescence.

    Showing support for men and men’s issues is now a huge well of voter support awaiting the first politician to put his/her ear to the ground. The majority of men and women will applaud it while a small and reducing group of screaming, irrational femaleists will still protest against it for a while yet.

    Comment by Ministry of Men's Affairs — Sat 22nd April 2017 @ 11:44 pm

  5. What where you expecting from Left liberal party like Labour?

    Labour are the party who support all the feminist non sense they.

    Did you forget labour are the party who incorporate man ban policy to have their M.P down to 50% male 50% female.

    You rather have better chance with conservative party although they gone through losses.

    But Conservative party are less trained by feminist agenda also they respect traditional family value unlike left

    liberal where they only believe in Rights and freedom has no moral value but instead they have rainbow value.

    don’t bother approaching liberal leftys they are more like our enemy.

    Comment by Shin hee Yi — Sun 23rd April 2017 @ 10:05 am

  6. It would appear Davis is pursuing an election platform of an experimental Maori based prison, and as he is from Kaitaia I’m guessing he’s angling to have the Northland prison turned into a Kaupapa Experiment.

    I’m all for improvements in the prison system, its inhabitants are disproportionately male.

    Would Davis walk away from this idea if a few rabid feminists started screaming their objections at him?

    Comment by Downunder — Sun 23rd April 2017 @ 10:38 am

  7. Yes, some thought that Davis might treat our tane with proper mana and that he might follow Maoritanga that respects men as well as women. However, the femaleists in the Labia party may have put pressure on him. They still hold a lot of power there in part because of Labia’s confused and morally corrupt support for feminist entitlement to special treatment (as opposed to equality).

    The way that Davis abandoned the commitments he made and failed to follow through with the hospitality that his invitation entailed showed disrespect for Maoritanga as well as towards our tane. The men of his race are locked up in prisons at a wildly disproportionate rate and they are suffering more than most men under our femaleist oligarchy. He appears to be a dishonourable and disingenuous coward and a traitor to both his gender and his race.

    (Remember though that males generally are imprisoned at a much more disproportionate rate vs females than are Maori vs others.)

    Comment by Man X Norton — Sun 23rd April 2017 @ 11:08 am

  8. If Cunliffe’s apology and their other antics haven’t opened our eyes yet, I don’t know what will.

    People still pander after an anti-male party like Labour for men’s issues.

    Better stick with the one who either won’t do anything nor make matters worse, unlike an openly feminazist party like Labour.

    FYI, it was National that brought in the legislation to take both parents’ incomes when calculating mummy support. Labour wouldn’t have touched it with a barge pole.

    Some people just never learn… SMH

    Comment by ashish — Tue 25th April 2017 @ 2:07 pm

  9. Cheers Ashish.
    Don’t know who you are referring to “Some people just never learn” At least I wrote to Davis. What have you done?
    I sent it to various labour MP’s since Davis is Labour but also sent to to NZ first and ACT since they are the only parties who are likely to have any interest in these issues
    What do you suggest?-since you seem so sure of yourself.

    Comment by Miles 64 — Tue 25th April 2017 @ 4:08 pm

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